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Music Industry Thriving In an Era of File Sharing

levicivita notes ZeroPaid coverage of a recent study by the UK music industry's own economist showing that overall UK music industry revenues were up in 2008 (study, PDF). The study is titled "Adding up the Music Industry for 2008" and it was authored by Will Page, who is the Chief Economist at PRS for Music, a UK-based royalty collecting group for music writers, composers, and publishers. From ZeroPaid: "[T]he music industry is growing increasingly diverse as music fans enjoy a wide range of platforms to hear and consume music. Sales of recorded music fell 6% for example, digital was up 50% while physical dropped 10%, but concert ticket sales grew by 13%. In terms of what consumers spent on music as a whole last year, this surprisingly grew by 3%."

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  1. Oh come now... We know this can't be true. by sconeu · · Score: 5, Funny

    The recording industry has lost [CARL-SAGAN] Billions and BILLIONS [/CARL-SAGAN] due to those Evil Content Pirates(tm)!

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    1. Re:Oh come now... We know this can't be true. by maxwell+demon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not to forget those who pirated non-evil content. :-)

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  2. Just imagine... by narcc · · Score: 5, Funny

    How much greater would the reported growth be without losses due to piracy?

    I'm guessing it would be something like 3 billion percent.

  3. Inflation? by hoarier · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The report does tell us:

    Make no mistake; the live music industry grew in 2008. More events, more bands, more tickets and importantly, higher ticket prices. Breaking it down to basic supply and demand economics, and given the scarcity embedded in its model, the live music industry is somewhere you really want to be right now.

    My emphasis.

    Perhaps the figures include all the tickets all those suckers bought for the triumphant London return of the "king of pop".

    Or maybe this year's new music isn't as boring as last year's (I pretty much gave up buying CDs when I found they were all bland and soporific).

    That's quite a report, in its gushing marketingese. I note with delight that "heritage act" has supplanted "senior citizen" as the euphemism for "old age pensioner" or "old geezer".

  4. Long story short... by KneelBeforeZod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The money flow is going the way it should. More about the artists and less about the publishers. And at better prices. To gain recognition, artists aren't required to sign away all their rights to a giant publisher anymore.

  5. What's the Cause? by brit74 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wow. I guess piracy really doesn't hurt the digital content industries.

    Oh wait. Two caveats:
    (1) "Sales of recorded music fell 6%" (which means other digital industries that don't involve giving concerts shouldn't expect comparible results).
    (2) A recent (July 13, 2009) study of UK piracy says "The analyst firm published a study on Monday that showed the numbers of those who regularly file-shared had dropped by a quarter between December 2007 and January 2009. The trend was particularly pronounced among 14-18-year-olds -- at the earlier date, 42 per cent were file-sharing at least once per month but at the latter date only 26 per cent were doing so."
    Source: http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/jul2009/gb20090713_439306.htm

    1. Re:What's the Cause? by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My guess is that the kids just got smarter. You don't brag about filesharing anymore. No matter how much a study is allegedly "anonymous".

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    2. Re:What's the Cause? by Draek · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So you're saying that, when illegal file-sharing dropped, so did actual sales?

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  6. Where the profit goes. by Repossessed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ticket sale money doesn't line the same pockets as CD sale money (for one, the artist gets a cut).

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  7. AGAIN? by PerZon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From what I remember, the same increase was seen throughout the industry when Napster was at its peak.

    The industry should be thankful for being able to reach a larger audience without having to pay the giant advertising costs!

  8. To hear the accountants tell it by symbolset · · Score: 4, Insightful

    An album hasn't turned a profit in twenty years. Otherwise they would have to pay royalties to the artists, which would ruin their business model.

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    1. Re:To hear the accountants tell it by Hammer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Now would that be the same people who raised the price when the CD came "to pay off the investment"?
      When independent economists calculated the price of a CD, on the shelf in the store, being ~10 cents less than the LP. That included paying off investment in 5 years...
      Or is it the people who said that the prices would drop as soon as the market grew?
      I am still waiting for the CD market to take off so the prices will drop ;-)
      Or are we talking the guys who manage to set the price of a soundtrack CD higher than the movie DVD?

  9. Physical Media by jbfalek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Interestingly it looks as though even though the physical products are not selling well people are returning or atleast partially embracing vinyl records

    From Wikipedia -

    "Figures released in the United States in early 2009 showed that sales of vinyl albums nearly doubled in 2008, with 1.88 million sold - up from just under 1 million in 2007."

  10. The Money is going into the wrong pockets by defireman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The RIAA et al. is screaming about piracy not because money is not lining into pockets. The money is only being lined into the wrong pockets, and they don't like it.

    Executives only exists to protect themselves. The facts don't lie.

  11. File-sharing has dropped in the UK by bonch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I like how both the article and the Slashdot submission completely ignore that file-sharing has dropped in the UK, especially among teens. Though I know this was posted on Slashdot to give pro-pirates the idea that sales are thriving in spite of piracy, this story doesn't disprove the effect piracy has on sales--if anything, it bolsters the idea that sales go up when piracy goes down.

    1. Re:File-sharing has dropped in the UK by sortius_nod · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't know about that one.

      You're ignoring that there are better content delivery systems these days. Years ago you almost NEEDED to pirate if you wanted a digital copy (especially if you weren't a techie), these days you can buy from many online stores, DRMed or DRM free.

      I'd say you're putting the cart before the horse. Piracy has dropped because there's more choice for legal avenues. It's not that pirates have been busted therefore buy more legit downloads.

    2. Re:File-sharing has dropped in the UK by selven · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Slashdot (or at least the segment you are referring to) is not trying to increase piracy, it's trying to reduce copyright, and one of the desired reductions is to make personal file sharing legal. If the artists are doing fine without the draconian laws some people are proposing then it supports the (Slashdot-approved) idea that we do not need those laws.

    3. Re:File-sharing has dropped in the UK by bemymonkey · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not to mention all the people who're finally willing to buy digital media online (legally instead of allofmp3.com or similar sites) because you can get the files in relatively high quality, and without DRM. I can't wait until the first 99ct FLAC store opens...

    4. Re:File-sharing has dropped in the UK by Andy_R · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The RIAA labels are well aware that file sharing is free advertising and it increases sales, the reason they are against it is that it breaks the monopoly on exposure that the RIAA labels had. Being able to try before you buy via P2P allows people to discover great self-promoted and small label music without making expensive 'stab in the dark' purchases. This means that although file-sharers spend on music is higher, the amount that ends up in the pockets of the RIAA labels is lower.

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  12. Piracy doesn't affect the economy by KarlIsNotMyName · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All money that's not spent on what is supposedly downloaded instead (rather than in addition to), is still there to be spent on other things. Other media, even.

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  13. Performance - not sales by DomHawken · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The PRS is the '_Performing_ Rights Society'. As the article says - 'Consumers spent less on recorded music, down 6% since 2007, but concert ticket sales have grown by some 13% as the industry as whole slowly evolves and adapts to digital distribution.'. They collect royalties for performances, not physical sales of CDs, or royalties from downloads, which are collected in the main by the MCPS (Mechanical Copyright Protection Service). The music industry in terms of the main labels remains slow to adapt, and the ridiculously high percentages charged by download services like iTunes (50% for smaller labels/bands in the UK, plus another 10% to go through a broker if they refuse to deal direct) means that bands are forced to play live as the only sensible source of income.

  14. Re:Well Good by Andy_R · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The reason that the big record labels perpetuate the myth that new artists need to be 'funded' is so they can perpetuate the closed ecosystem where artists can't reach the public without signing away 90 to 100% of the profits to them. This is the real reason why the music industry are willing to make payola payments to distribute songs for free on the radio, but are fighting against the free advertising of their product by filesharing, although both forms of advertising generate sales - it's because they can monopolise the airwaves but they can't do the same with P2P. It's all about artificial barriers to entering the market.

    Apple don't lose money on iTunes, they make a HUGE profit. They take 29 cents per 99 cent song, and have sold over 6 billion songs, do the math!

    Not much variety in music? Go count the number of artists on iTunes, Mr Troll.

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