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Alan Cox Quits As Linux TTY Maintainer — "I've Had Enough"
The Slashdolt writes "After a stern criticism from Linus, the long-time kernel hacker Alan Cox has decided to walk away as the maintainer of the TTY subsystem of the Linux Kernel, stating '...I've had enough. If you think that problem is easy to fix you fix it. Have fun. I've zapped the tty merge queue so anyone with patches for the tty layer
can send them to the new maintainer.'" A response to a subsequent post on the list makes it quite clear that he is serious.
Remember Windows ME?
Bingo.
(Just kidding I have no idea WHAT went wrong there)
How long does a bear have to be? Is it proportional to long cat?
> but then I realize my bear is nowhere near long enough
so you call it your bear ? then I suppose it's thick enough.
mine is call "my rat", as it's neither long nor thick.
Votez ecolo : Chiez dans l'urne !
http://xkcd.com/323/
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Everything.
No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism. - Winston Churchill
Are we talking tail-to-nose or is that a phalic reference? OTOH, how you would know your bear's penis length is something that should probably go unsaid.
Hello and welcome to /.
mmmm...forbidden donut
Alan Cox announces he will maintain Slashcode: "After this, it will be bloody easy to maintain the Slashcode codebase."
Where can we find another hacker that looks like a yeTTY?
Fascism trolls keeping me up every night. When I starts a preachin', he HITS ME WITH HIS REICH!
>After getting my head ripped off for mentioning that I liked operator overloading the other day
Is this the 5 minute argument or the full half hour?
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Is that you Theo?
It's good you never allowed windows network code into your company. You wouldn't want any open source BSD code in your company!
Being smarter is a big factor in programming well. Being obviously smarter than those around you is, well, a major cause of huge ego syndrome.
Don't you get a swollen head when you walk amongst dullards? Every time I see somebody pushing at the 'pull' on a door, I feel my disdain for others rising. When I stand behind a dunce in line, and hear him ask how many eggs in a dozen, I grow more sure of my position among the intellectual greats. When a waiter is unable to figure sums on his pad to give me a total, that I might reimburse him fairly for his service, I scoff at the fools that populate this world. In fact, in every day, in every way, the imbeciles I walk around cause my ego to grow nigh unto titanic proportions, certain I must be nearly akin to God Himself in my intellectual powers.
And I can only program in Basic. Imagine those towers of mind that must be a C programmer!
Just another "DOJ fascist authoritarian totalitarian bootlicker" -- Zeio
"You claim that emacs sh*ts itself when it gets EAGAIN, and you think
that's an emacs bug. And I think you're full of crap..."
I'm sure there's a job waiting in the diplomatic corps for Mr Torvalds...
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The true point of contention? Emacs vs. Vi. Loons.
Fuck systemd. Fuck Redhat. Fuck Soylent, too. Wait, scratch the last one.
Linus: Hey Alan finger my tty
Alan: No Way! i quit!
Politics is Treachery, Religion is Brainwashing
Yes, he can be pretty abrasive. Consider this: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/701694/focus=706950
Security people are often the black-and-white kind of people that I can't
stand. I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys, in
that they make such a big deal about concentrating on security to the
point where they pretty much admit that nothing else matters to them.
(emphasis mine)
C - the footgun of programming languages
He's married to himself?
Harry Truman used to say he didn't want to talk to experts because an expert was just someone who didn't want to learn anything more on a subject because if he did, then he'd find out he didn't know it all and wasn't an expert any longer.
Yeah, Harry was a real expert on experts.
Using myself as an example: I have a (Tested) IQ of 151, [...]
Howdy Forest!
You just need to change in your article the name "linus" by "ingo" and then your post may have some sense. Which shows how much you "know" about the topic.
Linus didn't even bothered with the scheduler, Ingo was the maintainer and it was him who was in charge of deciding what should replace it. It was him who argued, not linus. It was him who ended up admitting that the ideas from Con were good and he wrote the scheduler which is now into the kernel. One that, according to Con, was better than his own scheduler.
Ingo might as well the be the secret lover of Linus or his offspring from a parallel universe. The guy talks so fondly of him you'd think they run through the fields in slow motion towards one another as the Sound of Music is playing in the back drop.
My first job was working in Pascal, but the boss was an old FORTRAN guy and he banned any constructs which couldn't be done in that language.
/* Speed of car */ /* Position of car */
...and he would get stuck into me for not writing comments.
In another job my boss would write code like this:
int CARSPD;
int CARPOS;
And I would write
int speedOfCar;
int positionOfCar;
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You know what really gets on my nerves? When people say they no longer care, when in reality they do. If he really didn't care, he would have typed the first sentence and stopped.
Please talk to the moderators at Slashdot. I no longer care.
Beetle B.
I'm ready to scream bloody murder over it not being included yet.
That's okay, intelligence is simply potential you don't always use. I take pride in this fact, as I'm saving all my smart moments up for when I finally meet Hawking in person and frickin' own him.
It goes from God, to Jerry, to me.
"If Alan Cox wanted to work at Apple, it would take 1 phone call."
Especially if he wanted to work on the tty code.
-- Terry
Ok, I see now what happened. Linus won the technical battle, but wasn't satisfied at Cox's capitulation. Cox wanted to lose the argument with grace, Linus wouldn't let him.
A classic moment in arguing. A sly technique in the midst of an argument when you realize that despite everything you said to the contrary, you are really, really wrong. But, you don't want to admit it and the other person hasn't figured out that you know you're wrong. So you say something deliberately confusing that could be interpreted as supporting your opponent's argument, or your previous one. He assumes you are supporting the same side as ever and continues to hammer the point. You continue to make misleading statements, until you've slowly started to argue his side a little clearer. At this point he's really confused and asks you if you support your original statement, you say that's absurd and would never believe such a stupid thing. He's won, but you don't agree you were ever wrong. Just a "miscommunication" and "we were both right".
My younger brother used to do that to me all the time. Drove me nuts.
Well.. maybe. Or Maybe not. But Definitely not sort of.
+1 Barking Mad?
That was Alan's contention, and if true then it would be better to fix emacs than to keep the tty layer broken or crufty for emacs' lazy benefit.
Anyway, I think emacs has its own tty layer, doesn't it?
== Jez ==
Do you miss Firefox? Try Pale Moon.
His basic philosophy is old bug is better than new bug
Having driven both, I must say that I agree.
Back in 1938, a massive alien invasion took place in Grover's Mills, New Jersey -- during Orson Welles' famous "War of the Worlds" broadcast about Martians. Maybe it wasn't a hoax? Applications were discovered for social security cards from a list of men with no backgrounds -- all named Cox:
Alan Cox
John Big Cox
Dewey Cox
Dixon Cox
Ima Cox
.
Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, religion destroys spirituality
I was just going to reply and say the same thing as the GP - there is another Alan Cox for FreeBSD.
I have a theory that all OSes have their own Alan Cox but maybe they sometimes use pseudonyms to keep that secret!
Let me take a shot at summarizing the summary...
cox: have sum code lol!!!
:-/
user: ur kung fu is weak my pooter crashed and it's all ur fault lame!
cox: i feex! i feex! -starts furiously working-
A hush falls over the land, just then...
linus: RAWR! I SMASH!!! -flames shoot out of every orifice; a baby is heard crying in the distance-
cox: zOMG!!! -fills pants; amazingly, continues working furiously to "feex"-
linus: BRAWR! YOUR SLAVISH DEVOTION TO OTHERS ANGERS ME forabsolutelynoreason BRAWR!!!
user: wtf.
cox: -terrified of linus-beast, with singed eyebrow hairs- I leev! -boogies out, stage left-
bill gates (barely visible in background, deep stage right): -twirls mustachio-
all users: srsly, wtf.
me: -bows-
but have you considered the following argument: shut up.
> why isn't Reiser 4 in the damn kernel already?
Vendor lock-in.
I think I need to start writing my own OS...
Oh crap!
Now that the first AC is not working on Linux tty code the chances of him leaving his basement and meeting the FreeBSD AC are much higher.
What happens if they meet? What would happen to the space-time continuum?
Freedom is the freedom to say 2+2=4, everything else follows...
> Also, doors should be always pulled when you go in and pushed when you go out.
It's fools like you that'll be the death of us all when the zombie apocalypse arrives and everyone jams the doors running *into* malls.
Isn't that the title of the next Ubuntu release?
Wow. They are different people?!
Mod parent up somebody.
Ok, i will!
Ah damn.
You meant "spewed Java everywhere", didn't you?
There are two Alan Coxes, one for Linux and one for FreeBSD. It's confusing but there you go.
What? Did they fork him or something?
>> I found myself pulling on a door clearly marked Push.
> That is actually just an UI bug in the door.
I found myself trying to lift a door clearly marked LIFT.
GrahamCox says:
> I think I need to start writing my own OS...
Only if you change your first name to Alan....
(Yeah, I know. I keep a bottle of alcohol in my drawer to wipe my keyboard and mouse whenever someone else has worked on my computer. And I avoid shaking hands.)
I keep a bottle of alcohol in my drawer too!
Tyranny isn't the worst enemy of a democracy. Cynicism is.