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Fewer Than 10 ET Civilizations In Our Galaxy?

Al writes "The Fermi Paradox focuses on the existence of advanced civilizations elsewhere in the galaxy. If these civilizations are out there — and many analyses suggest the galaxy should be teeming with life — why haven't we seen them? Carlos Cotta and Álvaro Morales from the University of Malaga in Spain investigate another angle by considering the speed at which a sufficiently advanced civilization could colonize the galaxy. Various analyses suggest that using spacecraft that travel at a tenth of the speed of light, the colonization wavefront could take some 50 million years to sweep the galaxy. Others have calculated that it may be closer to 13 billion years, which may explain ET's absence. Cotta and Morales study how automated probes sent ahead of the colonization could explore the galaxy. If these probes left evidence of a visit that lasts for 100 million years, then there can be no more than about 10 civilizations out there."

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  1. Too Many Free Variables by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fewer Than 10 ET Civilizations In Our Galaxy?

    All this is assuming that we would know immediately if there were a 50-100 million year old alien probe in our solar system's backyard. Stack that on top of all the non-empirical data based percentages that go into the Fermi paradox and ...

    *puts on Twilight Zone music*

    Human beings are the alien probe!

    And man, we had better start compiling that report that's due when Quetzalcoatl/Jesus/Osiris/Thoth/Viracocha get back here. He's gonna be pissed when he sees that we just threw a huge party and trashed the place instead of assessing the resources!

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    1. Re:Too Many Free Variables by lorenlal · · Score: 2, Funny

      I at least hope they're getting a good laugh.

    2. Re:Too Many Free Variables by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why doesn't Ross, the bigger of the 'Friends', simply just EAT the other two?! - Omicron Persei 8

    3. Re:Too Many Free Variables by bazorg · · Score: 4, Funny

      So you are saying that our whole freaking planet is a reality show? agh!

    4. Re:Too Many Free Variables by jgostling · · Score: 5, Funny

      We've trashed nothing. The whole point of sending us here is the development of global warming technology so they can actually inhabit the planet when they get here. We're not probes. We're just an alien-forming device.

      Cheers!

    5. Re:Too Many Free Variables by r_jensen11 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Human beings are the alien probe!

      Oh no! I don't want to be shoved up anything's ass!

    6. Re:Too Many Free Variables by Damastus+the+WizLiz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Couldn't you just see the pitch on that one. TV Exec 1: "We take this planet, wipe off the indigenous reptilian life. Seed it with these agressive mammals and watch the hilarity ensue." Later on it would be: "This season we are gonna crash a ship into the planet with some fake bodies and then we will skim low in some ships just to make them nervous."

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    7. Re:Too Many Free Variables by sleigher · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's just the money you could be saving on car insurance.

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    8. Re:Too Many Free Variables by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Commander Xygzymmr,

      Probe designate r_jensen11 appears to be defective. We should pick him up on our next maintenance run for reprogramming. Recommend Regimen 7: "Probe 'em till he'd rather be the probe".

      - Engineer Morpsyx

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    9. Re:Too Many Free Variables by kjllmn · · Score: 2, Funny

      At last things make sense!

    10. Re:Too Many Free Variables by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, and unfortunately the ratings are abysmal. We will be lucky if we don't get canceled mid-season.

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  2. ever since moo by hort_wort · · Score: 4, Funny

    We've known there to be at most 10 civilizations ever since Master of Orion. A typical scenario is more like 6 though.

    1. Re:ever since moo by u38cg · · Score: 5, Funny

      Personally, I'm still waiting for evidence there is *one* civilisation in this galaxy.

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    2. Re:ever since moo by Anonymous+Struct · · Score: 2, Funny

      Funny, that's the first thing I thought, too. I hope the friggin' Meklars aren't playing.

    3. Re:ever since moo by euxneks · · Score: 2, Funny

      Personally, I'm still waiting for evidence there is *one* civilisation in this galaxy.

      OH SNAP! You certainly told humanity! On a post on Slashdot no less!

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  3. Nonsense... by Vectronic · · Score: 2, Funny

    We should start bumping into Vulcans in about 54 years... Zefram Cochrane should be born pretty soon... then we'll know.

  4. Re:There is no god by Brad1138 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Haven't you read the Bible? The stars and moon were created so that we can see at night, nothing more. Why would there be life on a bunch of night lights?

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  5. Re:There is no god by houghi · · Score: 2, Funny

    One word: Moths!

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  6. Remember the parable of the G'Gugvuntts and Vl'hur by seyyah · · Score: 2, Funny

    When thinking of whether we humans would be able to detect the arrival of an alien probe, we should all mediate on the parable of the G'Gugvuntts and Vl'hurgs:

    ... [t]he two opposing battle fleets decided to settle their few remaining differences in order to launch a joint attack on our galaxy, now positively identified as the source of the offending remark. For thousands of years the mighty starships tore across the empty wastes of space and finally dived screaming on to the planet Earth - where, due to a terrible miscalculation of scale, the entire battle fleet was accidentally swallowed by a small dog. Those who study the complex interplay of cause and effect in the history of the Universe say that this sort of thing is going on all the time.

  7. Re:Assumptions by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Funny

    you can say people are bad at somethings, but everyone has to admit we're really good at killing other stuff

    Or we'll kill them.

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  8. Re:What if... by Xaedalus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Please tell me they clean the numbers first?

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