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Is Intel Killing 12-Inch Displays On Netbooks?

HangingChad writes "Dell has retired their 12-inch Intel Atom-powered netbooks, they said today. The official reason — 'It really boils down to this: for a lot of customers, 10-inch displays are the sweet spot for netbooksLarger notebooks require a little more horsepower to be really useful.' Or is the real reason that 12-inch displays on netbooks cut into Intel's more profitable dual-core market and Dell's profit margins on higher-end machines?"

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  1. 12" = normal machine by tsa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I remember when I had a 12" iBook. Back then it was considered a normal laptop. OK, it wasn't wide-screen, but isn't 12" just too big for a netbook?

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    1. Re:12" = normal machine by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 4, Insightful

      [...] but isn't 12" just too big for a netbook?

      I find that the most important dimension when it comes to whether or not a computer is comfortable or is awkward and annoying when I'm carrying it loose is thickness, not length or width.

      Same when it is in a backpack, as I use a backpack that has a padded divider to separate the computer from the other items in the backpack. The thickness of the computer is the only dimension that determines how much space the computer takes up in the backpack.

  2. No need for a conspiracy by temojen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The whole reason for having a netbook is that it's tiny and portable. If you don't need super portability, you might as well get a more powerful machine. Market forces at work.

  3. At some point... by bschorr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Putting larger screens and larger keyboards in a netbook...the device ceases to BE a netbook. When you start getting into 12-13 inch screens you're starting to get into a form factor that is...well...a laptop.

    The whole point of a netbook is that it's small, compact, light, low-battery...but that's harder and harder to do when your netbook gets to be the size of your laptop. You can call a dog's tail a leg, but that doesn't make it a leg. Just because you call a device that's 5 lbs and has a 12" screen a netbook doesn't make it a netbook.

    So where do you draw the line? I have a netbook and a laptop and a desktop. They serve three distinct purposes (though I rarely use my laptop anymore because my netbook, with the 10" screen, does just fine for most of those tasks).

    Perhaps the reason more people are moving to netbooks instead of laptops is that most people have realized that an Atom processor is just fine for their tasks. That spending more to have a dual-core processor that spends 99% of its time idle and sucking up battery life was wasteful.

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    1. Re:At some point... by Carrot007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > The whole point of a netbook is that it's small, compact, light

      That used to be true of a laptop.

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  4. Re:Alternate Sources by 10Ghz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "if Dell was a monopoly like Apple"

    How exactly is Apple a "monopoly"? Because the have 100% market-share in Macs? I guess Nintendo is a monopoly as well, since they have 100% market-share in the Wii-market....

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  5. Re:Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hmmm.... Let's see where your logic leads. Apple has a 100% share of the market for Apple computers. Wow. That's so incisive. Read below to see where your logic takes you.

    Dell has a 100% share of the Dell computer market. Ergo, Dell is now a monopoly. AMD has a 100% share of the AMD cpu market. Ergo, AMD is now a monopoly.

    Your logic is so flawed, so "strawmanish", that it's not funny. Every company now qualifies as a monopoly because they hold a 100% share of their own sales, and no one else can manufacture and sell their brand.

  6. Re:Yes by 91degrees · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sigh. Apple doesn't have a monopoly. It's the wrong word but the right general concept. So while people are arguing semantics, they're totally missing the point.

    A Dell PC is trivially replaceable with a PC from a number of other manufacturers. Everything else will be more or less the same.

    An Apple PC is not trivially replaceable. Changing to any competitor will require changing go a completely different OS, which behaves in a noticeably different way and requires different software. If you want an Apple computer with a configuration not available from Apple, you don't have a lot of options. You have to pick the closest Apple product. If you want a Windows PC with a configuration not available from Dell, you find a manufacturer that does make a PC with that configuration.

  7. Re:No 12" LCD can fit cargo pocket by trjonescp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Despite what MS would like you to think, Windows XP is not obsolete.

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  8. Re:It doesn't matter to the average consumer. by bemymonkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "YouTube is no problem at all, even HD clips."

    Bullshit. Unless, of course, a slideshow is what you call "no problem at all"... ;)

    Maybe you mean the HQ mode - that's NOT HD.

  9. Re:It doesn't matter to the average consumer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In what other realm of life is it normal to tell people to buy a crappy product because it's "good enough" for their simple needs?

    Lots of them, so long as you're willing to replace "crappy" with "low performance". You tell someone to buy a cheap commuter car instead of a Ford GT if they're just going to commute back and forth from work.
    You tell people to buy a cheaper cell phone and phone plan instead of the huge awesome everything setup when they only talk on the phone a small amount.
    You tell people to get a modest apartment instead of a huge luxury suite when they don't have a lot of stuff and the suite isn't free.

    People compromise on quality ALL THE TIME because we don't need to and can't all afford to have all the best stuff all the time.