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Firefox Plugin Liberates Paywalled Court Records

Timothy B. Lee writes "If you want to access federal court records, you're often forced to use PACER, a cumbersome, paywalled Web site run by the federal judiciary. My colleagues and I at Princeton's Center for IT Policy have released a new Firefox extension called RECAP that allows users to automatically upload the documents they download from PACER into a public archive hosted by the Internet Archive. It also saves users money by automatically notifying them if a document they're searching for is available for free from the public archive. Over time, we hope to build a comprehensive, free repository of federal court records that's available to everyone."

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  1. On Top of That, public.resource.org Runs Audits! by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Informative
    What's also interesting about this plugin is that the site it uploads them to, public.resource.org, also runs audits and its CEO, Carl Malamud, sends that audit data back to the Clerk of the Court. The last page of that letter has transgressions by presiding judge!

    Example:

    Perhaps most shocking are items such as the list submitted by D.C. Attorney Ronald L. Drake who decided he wasn't being paid on time by the D.C. schools and thus raised his rates retroactively from $390/hour to $425/hour, submitting as evidence the names, home addresses, ages and social security numbers of 67 children.

    I hope every judge in the District of Columbia knows about that. What's even more humorous is that Carl Malamud includes a hyperlink in that letter to FindLaw in case you wish to contact Mr. Drake.

    And the response informs Malamud that it's taken care of with the SSNs redacted and the documents removed from public display. I wonder how long public.resource.org and Scribd have to demonstrate their usefulness before federal court documents are uploaded there by default in addition to being available through the court?

    On a related note, I read in a Google blog that you can now release your works under Creative Commons on books.google.com and they happen to have Carl Malamud's A World's Fair for the Global Village available for download. And if you wish to release your works under the Creative Commons, Google will host them.

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  2. Aren't they available through FOIA? by guruevi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't understand why there is a paywall in the first place. I thought all government records should be available for free through a FOIA request.

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    1. Re:Aren't they available through FOIA? by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't understand why there is a paywall in the first place. I thought all government records should be available for free through a FOIA request.

      They probably are, but FOIA is a long and timely process. Surely for court documents that do not require any review before release, there could be an easier way? From PACER's FAQ:

      Why are there user fees for PACER?
      In 1988, the Judiciary sought funding through the appropriation process to establish the capability to provide electronic public access services. Rather than appropriating additional funds for this purpose, Congress specifically directed the Judiciary to fund that initiative through the collection of user fees. As a result, the program relies exclusively on fee revenue.

      The fee is eight cents per page you wish to view. While I don't agree with this now, I could maybe see how in 1988 this nominal fee would be needed for the transfer of this data. Today, bandwidth is cheap for documents. Bring on the Firefox extension and public.resource.org hosting! I think they should allow a bidding contract with "free" being the only option ... I'm guessing Google and Scribd and many others could make enough off the ads to host everything without blinking an eye. Hell, Google's doing it for patents, why not federal court documents?

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    2. Re:Aren't they available through FOIA? by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not just for bandwidth, but for the total maintenance of the system.

      If you read deeper, there is a cap on fees per case of $2.40, so (using their example) if a case has 50 pages of documents, you would only need to pay $2.40 instead of the full $4.00.

      I'm sure they would love someone to take this responsibility off their hands. Here's their FAQ for usage:

      What are the acceptable uses of the data obtained from the PACER system?
      The PACER system provides electronic access to case information from federal courts across the United States. The information gathered from the PACER system is a matter of public record and may be reproduced without permission. However, the PACER customer assumes all responsibility for consequences that arise from use of the data.

      There are only a handful of things that the government should be involved in. This is definitely one of them.

    3. Re:Aren't they available through FOIA? by AndrewNeo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think it makes sense. Instead of spending tax dollars on something very few people (in contrast to the total number of taxpayers,) it's paid with by a per-use fee. If anything there's probably more tax-paid government services that could be handled this way.

    4. Re:Aren't they available through FOIA? by Kidro · · Score: 2, Informative

      FOIA allows for the charging of fees to process requests.

      From http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/87466.pdf
      "Will I be charged for making a FOIA request?
      The Department of State is entitled to charge a fee to recover the costs of document search, duplication and, in commercial cases, review. Under certain conditions, documents may be furnished without charge or at a reduced charge."

    5. Re:Aren't they available through FOIA? by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think it makes sense. Instead of spending tax dollars on something very few people (in contrast to the total number of taxpayers,) it's paid with by a per-use fee. If anything there's probably more tax-paid government services that could be handled this way.

      You are correct. But I think you're overlooking people that would benefit from this. People like you and I that might be good with Google and interested in generic Federal Court history, Academics looking to study it and so forth.

      Check out this Ars Technica article from April entitled "The case against PACER: tearing down the courts' paywall", it says:

      An important obstacle to improving PACER is the court's myopic focus on the system's current users. A recent article in the federal courts' internal newsletter promised to "survey the courts, litigants, attorneys, the media, and bulk data collectors-the people who use PACER." Conspicuously absent from the list are academics, non-profit organizations, and members of the general public: groups that would benefit from a more open PACER but which are discouraged from participating by the paywall and primitive search tools.

      While I agree that at first glance a select few need this service, I also recognize that there are a select few who would benefit greatly from removing the paywall. Now, we can't come up with cold hard numbers to monetarily weigh one group against the other and optimize our tax dollars. But we can all use tools like this Firefox extension to satisfy the tax payers and help out the academics and curious general public.

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    6. Re:Aren't they available through FOIA? by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm guessing Google and Scribd and many others could make enough off the ads to host everything without blinking an eye.

      Why does everyone acknowledge that people are willing to pay a lot of money for propaganda, yet not make the connection that this propaganda is so effective at leading people astray that they'll pay a lot of money for it and recognize that inducing people to mindless behavior has a social cost of it's own? When you run an effective ad campaign and manipulate people behavior, it's basically induced insanity. It ought to be a criminal act.

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    7. Re:Aren't they available through FOIA? by Pfhool · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't understand why there is a paywall in the first place. I thought all government records should be available for free through a FOIA request.

      They probably are, but FOIA is a long and timely process.

      FOIA only applies to the executive branch.

    8. Re:Aren't they available through FOIA? by aminorex · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wars, yeah, okay, but not laws.

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  3. why is PACER even allowed to charge? by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I had to get a PACER account when I filed bankruptcy, so that I could monitor my case and download the documents related to it. It's ridiculous how it works -- they charge you $0.03 for every page that you download. It's like going to the local library and paying to use the copy machine, except in this case it's completely electronic and costs them no consumables. Why are they allowed to charge so much for access to the public record? It seems like a reasonable amount to ask if you went to the local court house and started printing hard copies but $0.03/page for a PDF document? Really?

    Kudos to the people who came up with this idea. Now if we only had a free way to search case law. You can access the current Federal and State statues from the relevant Government websites but you have no easy way to do the same for case law, which is at least as important under our legal system. Most of the services to do this are paid ones (Lexis Nexis), I've yet to come across a decent free one.

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    1. Re:why is PACER even allowed to charge? by rickyars · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree that stuff like this should be free since it is, after all, subsidized by our tax dollars.

      But you're mistaken if you think it costs them nothing to make available to you these electronic documents. They have to (1) buy and maintain servers and storage, (2) pay the people to install and maintain that hardware, and (3) pay for electricity and cooling.

    2. Re:why is PACER even allowed to charge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      And you're wrong if you think that it's subsidized by your tax dollars:

      From PACER's FAQ [uscourts.gov]:

      Why are there user fees for PACER?
      In 1988, the Judiciary sought funding through the appropriation process to establish the capability to provide electronic public access services. Rather than appropriating additional funds for this purpose, Congress specifically directed the Judiciary to fund that initiative through the collection of user fees. As a result, the program relies exclusively on fee revenue

    3. Re:why is PACER even allowed to charge? by mariushm · · Score: 2, Informative

      Once the document has been scanned and introduced in the system, it costs almost nothing to distribute it.

      You have almost fixed costs each month on people producing the documents, bandwidth, datacenter colocation, and some additional small costs on maintenance so a fee of 3 cents per page is not justified, especially if a document can get to hundreds of pages. You already run the system for years now, so you should know from statistics how many pages are read or how many documents are transferred and you should especially know how much it costs you overall so they could implement something like 50 cents / 1$ per document and still cover their yearly costs plus a very small profit.

    4. Re:why is PACER even allowed to charge? by blueg3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It actually makes more sense to always charge the same amount for a page, and choose a fee such that you manage to cover your costs.

      The real problem is that to most incensed Libertarians assume the marginal cost should be the total cost. Apparently overhead does not exist.

    5. Re:why is PACER even allowed to charge? by Shakrai · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But you're mistaken if you think it costs them nothing to make available to you these electronic documents

      What makes you assume that I think it costs them nothing? It obviously costs them something. I just question whether or not it costs so much that they need to charge $0.03/page for a PDF document.

      They have to (1) buy and maintain servers and storage, (2) pay the people to install and maintain that hardware, and (3) pay for electricity and cooling.

      They'd have to do all that anyway. The courts would still be keeping these documents even if PACER wasn't around to make the easily available to the public. So the question is how much extra does having the PACER functionality cost?

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  4. This will turn out well by vrmlguy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Because subverting the will of the judiciary always turns out well.

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    1. Re:This will turn out well by DrgnDancer · · Score: 3, Informative

      They aren't "subverting the will of the judiciary". The judiciary isn't charging thousands of dollars a month and making a huge profit off of this. They're charging a few cents a page to cover the expense of keeping the program running. If someone else can and will store the same documents for free, it's less load for them to deal with. These are all public record documents that you could see for free if you went down to the courthouse and asked for them (though they'd probably charge you for copies, to cover those costs), it's not like these guys are breaking into the courthouse systems and raping and pillaging the information. It's public domain stuff, being stored in the public domain.

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  5. Re:The government charge is ridiculous. by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The court papers scanned, organized and posted themselves.

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  6. Re:The government charge is ridiculous. by FlyingSquidStudios · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If they are scanning all of them as part of procedure, then there should be no extra charge for referencing them later.

  7. Why should PUBLIC records be behind a paywall? by JSBiff · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm a US citizen and pay thousands of dollars a year in Federal taxes. Why should I pay *more* to access public court documents from the Federal courts? If the issue is the costs of hosting the documents on servers, this project, by its mere existence, shows that there are people who will gladly shoulder the cost of hosting the documents, so others can access them for free. If the issue is the cost of having people redact documents where necessary, and scan them in (in the situations where the documents aren't electronic to begin with), that should just be part of the costs of court clerks, which our tax dollars pay for *anyhow*.

    1. Re:Why should PUBLIC records be behind a paywall? by wampus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So are user fees automatically bad everywhere? Toll roads, fuel taxes, school registration, and so on all fit the same criteria. You are paying tax to support *some* of it, but it seems fair to make the people who are actually using a service pay more.

    2. Re:Why should PUBLIC records be behind a paywall? by the+phantom · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You are so right. We should only pay user fees. Then we won't have to pay for the things we don't use. I know that, for me, personally, this would save a hell of a lot of money, seeing as I don't use the military, welfare, medicaid, medicare, or social security!

    3. Re:Why should PUBLIC records be behind a paywall? by kyofunikushimi · · Score: 2, Informative
      Within reason, of course:

      "In 2006, the fund received $447.8 million, but they could only figure out what to do with $301.2 million, the so-called âoeobligated balance.â In other words, they had a âoesignificant unobligated balanceâ of $146.6 million. At 8 cents per page for a PACER Document, they could give away 1.8 billion pages of documents to the public and still have all the money they need to pay for their computers."

      See question/answer #9 in the Recycling FAQ for a nice graph and a source of that quote: http://pacer.resource.org/recycling.html

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  8. Re:Nice job... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is making a fairly inexpensive program self supporting really more important than ensure citizen's access to the law? Really?

    If so, I propose another initiative: "1-900-THE-COPS" is a new "991 Premium" service offering enhanced access to law enforcement for a modest fee...

    Joking aside, there are plenty of areas where running government as lean as possible makes sense; but nickle-and-diming justice seems like a terrible plan.

  9. well by nomadic · · Score: 4, Informative

    Speaking as a lawyer who spends an inordinate amount of time going through multiple PACER systems to download filings, this is good news, however it would probably take a few years for this to be useful for most lawyers. And outside the more prominent cases the chances are slim that someone else has used this to get a document you want.

    And the interface itself isn't THAT cumbersome, though it could be slightly better (for example, it doesn't allow searching by judge, which is annoying when you're trying to see how the judge you're before ruled before). Also each district has its own independent PACER, which always seemed somewhat inefficient to me.

  10. Patience by Taylor123456789 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As a lawyer who has used Pacer for many years, my first reaction was the same. Why am I paying for something with no marginal cost that should be free in the first place? However, look at the alternative: driving down to the courthouse and making physical photocopies at even greater expense.

    I then learned that they are using the money to build their IT infrastructure to allow even better access. Of course, they will probably never remove the fees, but $.03 is really quite cheap compared to say, Lexis or Westlaw which charge about $100 per day to access their data without a subscription.

    Right now, it is optional for lawyers (some courts even charge you to do it) to file electronic versions of your documents. Eventually, all lawyers will file electronic versions of their documents, and access will be better.

    I support public.resource.org which is attempting to make all government laws free online.

    The wheels of justice move slowly but surely.

  11. How do I verify Authenticity? by localman57 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If the system relies on my uploading documents that I downloaded from the court, how does it authenticate the validity of those documents? Suppose I'm a patent troll lawyer. What's to keep me (aside from non-technical disciplinary stuff) from downloading documents that have unfavorable rulings to patet troll companies, then modifying them to make it look like the precident is different, and uploading them to RECAP? It seems like this could be a good way to derail the competition.

    1. Re:How do I verify Authenticity? by Rydia · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's not really a concern or a problem. If you're relying upon a holding or an order from a court, your opponent is going to go and get their own copy of that order (sure, maybe they go to RECAP). They will notice that what you said doesn't match up with the official record and tell the judge. Heck, when you file a brief relying on the order, you're going to get stopped by the judge anyway because (at least in my experience), the judge is going to ignore everything except your overall argument regarding that opinion/order, and then just go and read the opinion/order himself (off PACER, since it doesn't cost the judge anything). At best, you didn't include any of the lying bits. At worst (say the local rules required you to attach the case to your filing), you're essentially lying to the court. Judges aren't big fans of this. Lawyers and judges are (generally) not idiots. The possibility of this scheme actually working is so incredibly remote that you'd have to be nuts to try it.

    2. Re:How do I verify Authenticity? by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > What's to keep me (aside from non-technical disciplinary stuff) from
      > downloading documents that have unfavorable rulings to patet troll companies,
      > then modifying them to make it look like the precident is different, and
      > uploading them to RECAP?

      a) Lawyers will only use unofficial sources like RECAP for research. Material that they intend to use in court will be downloaded from PACER and thus you will be caught.

      b) Judges have no reason not to use PACER for everything since they don't pay the fees and do need to be sure they are looking at official versions. Thus you will be caught again.

      However, this will encourage lawyers on small budgets to do much more wide-ranging research, will allow penurious litigants to have access to court records, and allow the general public to more easily follow cases.

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    3. Re:How do I verify Authenticity? by localman57 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But you're assuming that I'm downloading the document to use specifically as-is, in the judicial system. What if I'm interested in reading, for instance, the i4i v. Microsoft case above for my own entertainment and education? What's to keep one party or the other from uploading a version of the document with stuff they don't like modified? It might not work in court, but it could confuse the public, or cause you to abandon one potentially valid avenue of research you might otherwise have pursued, had the document not been falsified. It's easy to see how this could appeal to people. Just look how many people put up false stuff on Wikipedia. Except in this case, the only way for me to refute what is in RECAP is to pay money to buy my own copy of the document from PACER.

      Are you absolutely sure the RIAA or similar wouldn't potentially try to do this if a bad case came down against them? Once a falsehood starts circulating, it's very hard to kill.

    4. Re:How do I verify Authenticity? by localman57 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Lawyers will only use unofficial sources like RECAP for research.

      Exactly! And that's why it's worth falsifying. If I can convince you, through your own research, that what you're trying to do against me has been proven not to work, then you'll give up. When in fact, perhaps your research would have shown that what you were trying to do in fact worked very well!

  12. Re:Nice job... by HAKdragon · · Score: 3, Funny

    0118999881999119725...... 3

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  13. Re:On Top of That, public.resource.org Runs Audits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    hese sort of redaction failures are important to know about; however, Malamud's letter to the clerk of court betrays a severe deficiency in his understanding of the courts and how they work. The Clerk of Court cannot redact filings. It just does not work that way. Filers must (and are required to) redact filings. The Clerk of Court must also accept any filing. S/he can't turn it away because of a defect in form or substance. The most the clerk can do is notify chambers (the judge) of the issue. The judge can then order the filing sealed as well as a redacted filing from the originator of the document.

    In addition, contrary to everything you are reading in this thread, court opinions are free on PACER. Anything that sets forth the reasoned opinion of the court is not charged. Most PACER fees come from people reading mundane scheduling orders and routine motions made by counsel. Yes -- these should be (and are) available to the public. They are even free if you visit the courthouse -- but the system that runs them did not appear out of thin air. PACER fees *do not* pay staff salaries or local court operational costs. They are used to maintain the infrastructure and development of the Case Management and Electronic Case Files system. That infratructure is complex and the software systems used to run and maintain the systems is under constant development to handle new requirements -- be they legal requirements or operational requirements.

    The biggest problem with Malamud's project (and this plugin) is not the archival of public documents. I don't think anyone has a problem with that. The biggest problem is that it is woefully incomplete and someone might be under the mistaken impression that their project is anywhere near what Malamud claims it is. Their "vast repository' of documents contains fewer that 20% of the number of filings in one medium to large court out of 96 district courts (let alone Bankruptcy courts, which have much higher volume). The amount of actual data available from PACER dwarfs their available resources and is growing at a geometric pace compared to their relatively static growth. Take a look at their repository and just imagine how much has changed since this small slice of the whole pie was carved out. There is no way a few public users can keep up with hundreds of attorneys filing thousands of documents each day in all these courts. It cannot be done that way -- and they should make it clear that this is resource is nothing more than a tiny window on the whole.

  14. They are not "bypassing" the program. by John+Hasler · · Score: 5, Informative

    PACER gets its fee for every page downloaded from it. The material is public domain. You could go down to the courthouse, photograph the pages, and put them up on the Web without paying a penny. This project reduces the load on PACER in proportion to the reduction in PACER revenue. What's wrong with that? And why do you assume that only the rich need Federal court documents?

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  15. Re:On Top of That, public.resource.org Runs Audits by Jurily · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is wonderful news. Now I can save $2.40 on my various sexual harassment lawsuits.

    It's not the amount that matters here, it's the principle. Public records should be public, and by that I mean freely available and easily searchable. And "easily searchable" is actually an intrenational standard in the age of Google.

  16. Re:On Top of That, public.resource.org Runs Audits by thejynxed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There is no way a few public users can keep up with hundreds of attorneys filing thousands of documents each day in all these courts.

    And that right there, is a very sad fact that should never have been allowed to exist.

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  17. Re:On Top of That, public.resource.org Runs Audits by Diacritic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So we should stop allowing people to file documents with the courts? Or should we stop allowing documents to be available for public use? Which "fact" are you referring to?

  18. Re:On Top of That, public.resource.org Runs Audits by poetmatt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The thing is, pacer records are intended to be public and supposed to be free. Lieberman has asked about this before. The creation of documents online was supposed to make them free eventually, specifically.

  19. Re:On Top of That, public.resource.org Runs Audits by MarkvW · · Score: 2, Informative

    "I would rather eliminate the res judicata that forces attorneys to unload a full larder of motions at trial just to make sure nothing gets locked out at appeal."

    That is just plain silly. If you didn't have res judicata, the attorneys would file even more paper in multiple lawsuits instead of just one lawsuit. Furthermore, the other side would never have the relief of knowing that the case is really over.

    You don't want causes of action to be ZOMBIES that are never dead! You want finality!!!

  20. Re:Lawyers are great users of this type of system by chadplusplus · · Score: 3, Informative

    Model Rules of Professional Conduct 1.6, section a states that "A lawyer shall not reveal information relating to the representation of a client unless the client gives informed consent, the disclosure is impliedly authorized in order to carry out the representation or the disclosure is permitted by paragraph (b)." Hence, the attorney's restriction on discussing or distributing information relating to his client is NOT limited to what would otherwise be commonly referred to as "confidential" information. Even if the information in question, including the content of public filings, is already within the public consciousness, the lawyer is still prohibited from furthering the spread of that information. For instance, a lawyer should not take a copy of the complaint he just filed at court and put it up on a billboard (unless otherwise required by the applicable rules).

    As an attorney who has used PACER, I have logged onto PACER to download copies of judicial noticies, orders, pleadings from the other parties involved in the case, etc... Those orders, pleadings, notices are arguably information relating to my client and accordingly, I am prohibited from distributing that information.

    You mention lawyers studying other cases. While it is true that lawyers "study other cases", it may not be what you think. I suppose the occasional lawyer will look through cases to see how a particularly skilled lawyer drafted his pleadings. Or, for instance, I have personally sat in on hearings in which skilled lawyers were participating. But this is not what is meant by "studying cases".

    "Studying cases" almost ubiquitously refers to the study of higher court opinions, such as US Supreme Court opinions or opinions from the highest courts of each state. Those opinions are published into typically free archives available at each respective court's website. Searching those opinions, however, is not as easy and is typically a "pay-for" service, but not through PACER.

    Again, my own experience and the experience of my associates tells me that lawyers most often access PACER to access pleadings in their own current cases, not for academic review. Accordingly, the information they view at PACER falls within "client information", the spread of which by the attorney is frowned upon by the ABA.