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CCP Announces Console MMO Tie-In To the EVE Universe

Posted by Soulskill on from the ambitious-endeavours dept.

Hork_Monkey writes "CCP Games, developer of the popular MMO EVE Online, has announced a new game called Dust 514. Building on the EVE universe, this game will provide planetary combat from an RTS and FPS perspective, with significant impact into the space combat aspects of EVE Online. Love or hate EVE Online, this appears to be an innovative way to expand the overall universe by catering to a different gamer audience. A video with a trailer and further explanation was posted from GDC Europe."

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  1. I've recently started playing EVE by Pengo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    About 4 months now, I was playing wow for a few years and just needed a change.

    The universe is complex, but the training and progression system is unbelievable. I have friends int he service who are on duty for sometimes weeks at a time. They are progresssing at the exact same pace that the rest of us are that might play 3-4 nights a week. After about 6 months, you're competent with just about anything you want to do, and then further specialization allows for deeper access to ships and better equipment.

    The difference i like between EVE and WoW, you don't really need to raid to get into a decent ship and get good equipment. Just about everyone has access to everything in the game. Just fly to Jita and buy what you're looking for :)

    1. Re:I've recently started playing EVE by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Personally, I found it to be a dull griefer's paradise. It's fun at first, but seeing the same scenery over and over again and doing the same stuff over and over again gets boring really fast. About the only way to make it any fun is to join a guild. But since you can't really trust anyone in the game, and so many guild activities just involve grinding to build some new ship (which someone in the guild will probably just steal anyway), even this is dubious.

      Some people really enjoy this game, but it's definitely not for a general audience (or anyone who likes exploration and variety and hates grinding)

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      SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
    2. Re:I've recently started playing EVE by tbcpp · · Score: 3, Funny

      See that's your problem, you wanted to join a guild...you really want to join a Corp in EVE. Seriously though, EVE is a PVP game...nothing else

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      Man is the lowest-cost, 150-pound, nonlinear, all-purpose computer system which can be mass-produced by unskilled labor.
    3. Re:I've recently started playing EVE by WarlockD · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I was going to put in a point but thought I chime in.

      The problem is that you CAN trust your local corp. Its not like they fold over night and most people in one are honest. The problem is that once you are IN a corp, there are so many meinal things to do. Camp a damn jump gate for 6 hours. Act as rat killer for the miners or sit there with a mouse and mine. Act as truck driver for said mine. Even using some of the automated towers still requires this annoying manual process.

      But Eve is not the only one with the grind, as you know. Eve says you are just one of the cogs and buy insurance like everyone else. Like the real world you find a "job" You train in miner to be a miner, recon to be a zone watcher. All these "jobs" are menial and boring. But, I hate to say this is the problem with ALL PVP SYSTEMS. All games out there make you to be the "special one" The one who will win the war or save the universe. (I ran into this in the beta of Fallen Earth when I started. Your a speical "clone"? What are the other players?) Any job you take, out side of this, is just to progress to main story line.

      War is all about waiting and dicking around and about 10 minutes of fighting. WoW had to introduce the battlegrounds to give players a way to play PvP at no cost. Even Wintergrasp limits you to every few hours to make sure enough people join up so its "fun" There were no wars in Ultima Online, just a few assassins once in a while. Even major battles in EVE lasts only about 30 minutes.

      EVE designed a system where if you want to keep what you got, you have to protect it yourself. You spend all those grinding hours working for your corp and you want to protect your work. Your not fighting for the "fun" of it. Your not fighting because "your the one". Your fighting because you did a time sink of 6 months into this corp and you don't want a bunch of god damn pirates taking out your control tower out when eveyones off to dinner (again). In EVE, you fight to protect what you got. Its quite possible the most raw political simulators created in the mmorg world.

      I just wish there WAS a way to reach out and throttle the players who say "fuck it" and quit though. Especially the ones with the higher rights in corps:P

    4. Re:I've recently started playing EVE by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 3, Informative

      No.

      You, my friend, haven't been in a major battle in EVE if the node lasted for 30 minutes before crashing...

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      retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
    5. Re:I've recently started playing EVE by Rhacman · · Score: 4, Informative

      I never really understood the attitude that EVE is a PVP _only_ game. CCP neither presents it as such, nor does the gameplay reflect it. PVP is a huge component of the game but it is hardly the _only_ component. From the EVE FAQ:

      "You can trade to make a living, conduct mining operations, market your fighting skills as a mercenary, camp the spacelanes for profit as a pirate, conduct espionage and infiltration, focus on research and manufacturing, or perform increasingly profitable missions for NPC (non player controlled, run by the EVE system) agents. What you choose to do day by day is up to you. You can play alone, form a corporation (equivalent of clan or guild) with a close group of friends or seek entrance to any of the large player run corporations and alliances already established."

      Personally I run R&D, invention, manufacturing, and work the market when I don't have much time to invest. I squeeze in a few missions when do have some time to kill mostly as an income supplement. The MMO aspect of the game provides me with a dynamic marketplace to work with and something to talk about with my buddies at work. I have played for roughly 2 years and have never even taken a shot at another player. EVE does not have the most exciting PVE content but it does have a lot of it if you know what to look for and if it is your cup of tea.

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  2. Re:So is FPS comming to EVE Online as well? by hafhal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    These 2 will probably not mix. My best guess is that Dust514 will be running on the Unreal Engine ( CCP has been advertising jobs with that skillset ). While Walking in station is being made on top of the current eve engine to the best of my knowledge.

  3. Re:The two worst genres for console by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I guess I was mistaken when I thought I enjoyed playing Halo. Thanks for setting me straight.

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    SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
  4. Re:The two worst genres for console by jandrese · · Score: 3, Funny

    Doing a good job making the game enjoyable? Eve? That's debatable.

    My big concern is that typical console gamers are about as far removed from Eve players as they are from people who snapped up Barbie Horse Adventures.

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    I read the internet for the articles.
  5. Re:So is FPS comming to EVE Online as well? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Walking In Stations was always claimed to be based on an engine they were creating for an unrelated MMO.

    For comparison, here is one of the screenshots of Dust in their press release, and a preview video of WIS.

    However, to answer the GP, WIS won't include combat (at least in the first version), if for no other reason than it would clash with the established backstory for cloning (requires a lot of tech built into the players Pod to transmit current brain contents just before the moment of death), and thus make permadeath possible.

  6. Re:The two worst genres for console by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know that friend of yours who has different music tastes than you, who will go on for hours about how his favorite musicians don't lip-sync, how they write their own songs, etc? You know, the guy who everyone rolls their eyes at and avoids at parties (lest he go on a long rant about how crappy pop music is today and how the obscure shit he likes is so superior in every way)? You know that smug douchebag?

    Well that's what it's like to listen to a PC snob.

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    SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
  7. Advert by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 4, Informative

    In the top-right corner of this page is an advert* for the following site: http://mmorpged.net/eve/ **
    IT IS A SCAM ...but I don't know where to report it to.
    * for those of you not blocking ads. I myself have the slashdot "Ads disabled" checkbox immediately below that ad ticked, rather than running adblock on this site, but the advert's still there for some reason.
    ** url is not a link to protect the stupid

    If you go to that crazy page and read, it talks about "owning your server", "leveling" and "if you just want the ISK for your mount". NONE OF THESE APPLY TO EVE. EVE is a one server game, your character doesn't "level up" and you don't buy a "mount" with lots of currency. The page is a copy of another advert scam page, and they haven't even made it match the game they are scamming for, more than changing the currency. It even says "strategies that [...] make kama for you!". Kama is the currency from the Dofus, which unsuprisingly they ALSO have a page for: http://www.mmorpged.net/dofus/

    The Everquest 2 page on the same site is better: http://www.mmorpged.net/everquest2/
    It says "all you have to do is take the link here to order your copy of EVE Ultimate gold Guide." (whoops, wrong game) and if you click the order link it invoices you for "Lord of the Rings Online Gold Guide". Clever.

    Now, does anyone know where I could report it to google (ads) as a scam?