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CCP Announces Console MMO Tie-In To the EVE Universe
Hork_Monkey writes "CCP Games, developer of the popular MMO EVE Online, has announced a new game called Dust 514. Building on the EVE universe, this game will provide planetary combat from an RTS and FPS perspective, with significant impact into the space combat aspects of EVE Online. Love or hate EVE Online, this appears to be an innovative way to expand the overall universe by catering to a different gamer audience. A video with a trailer and further explanation was posted from GDC Europe."
CCP has always been doing a good job before. Maybe it'll still be fun in the end. I do hope for a PC version toguh, and then running them both :P.
About 4 months now, I was playing wow for a few years and just needed a change.
The universe is complex, but the training and progression system is unbelievable. I have friends int he service who are on duty for sometimes weeks at a time. They are progresssing at the exact same pace that the rest of us are that might play 3-4 nights a week. After about 6 months, you're competent with just about anything you want to do, and then further specialization allows for deeper access to ships and better equipment.
The difference i like between EVE and WoW, you don't really need to raid to get into a decent ship and get good equipment. Just about everyone has access to everything in the game. Just fly to Jita and buy what you're looking for :)
These 2 will probably not mix. My best guess is that Dust514 will be running on the Unreal Engine ( CCP has been advertising jobs with that skillset ). While Walking in station is being made on top of the current eve engine to the best of my knowledge.
Massively has run another wrap-up article on the announcement: http://www.massively.com/2009/08/18/ccp-games-reveals-new-eve-online-console-mmo-dust-514/ Details on how exactly this will impact 0.0 soverignty are scarce and as usually happens with the EVE forum when big announcements occur, people are assuming the worst. It's an ambitious plan that has the potential to extend EVE into the console market but there's a lot that could go wrong with it. If past experience is anything to go by though, CCP are certainly capable of doing the "impossible".
More important, when discussing an EVE tie-in, is the fact that spreadsheets require a keyboard, and optionally a mouse, for best results...
I guess I was mistaken when I thought I enjoyed playing Halo. Thanks for setting me straight.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Doing a good job making the game enjoyable? Eve? That's debatable.
My big concern is that typical console gamers are about as far removed from Eve players as they are from people who snapped up Barbie Horse Adventures.
I read the internet for the articles.
Walking In Stations was always claimed to be based on an engine they were creating for an unrelated MMO.
For comparison, here is one of the screenshots of Dust in their press release, and a preview video of WIS.
However, to answer the GP, WIS won't include combat (at least in the first version), if for no other reason than it would clash with the established backstory for cloning (requires a lot of tech built into the players Pod to transmit current brain contents just before the moment of death), and thus make permadeath possible.
CCP has stated they have no plans for combat in stations at this time. They want battles faught in space.
I find being offended by me offensive.
He didn't say anything about Halo being fun or not. Just that PC is a better platform for it. I agree for 2 reasons.
Mouse and keyboard is a better control system. Console controllers are gimp. At least 4 fingers are wasted simply holding it. That's if you use the horribly uncomfortable and unergonomic claw style. 6 otherwise.
Number of people in battle. On PC my team is often the same size or larger as the whole battle on console.
I find being offended by me offensive.
I've played FPS games on consoles and I've played seriously on my PC. I enjoy both. Why is it that some many people like care how someone plays an FPS or RTS game and then get all worked up over the fact that people enjoy them on consoles. The world isn't this black and white were you can only enjoy playing games either on your PC or your console.
You know that friend of yours who has different music tastes than you, who will go on for hours about how his favorite musicians don't lip-sync, how they write their own songs, etc? You know, the guy who everyone rolls their eyes at and avoids at parties (lest he go on a long rant about how crappy pop music is today and how the obscure shit he likes is so superior in every way)? You know that smug douchebag?
Well that's what it's like to listen to a PC snob.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
I have played all the Quakes, Unreals, and Half-Lifes, including CS semi-professionally. Guess what? I have fun playing Halo as well. Just because a superior control scheme exists for a game, doesn't mean that people can't enjoy the game on it's own merits.
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There's just one flaw in your plan: Counterstrikers train on keyboard and mouse, this is a console FPS.
Justice is the sheep getting arrested while an impartial judge declares the vote void.
In the top-right corner of this page is an advert* for the following site: http://mmorpged.net/eve/ ** ...but I don't know where to report it to.
IT IS A SCAM
* for those of you not blocking ads. I myself have the slashdot "Ads disabled" checkbox immediately below that ad ticked, rather than running adblock on this site, but the advert's still there for some reason.
** url is not a link to protect the stupid
If you go to that crazy page and read, it talks about "owning your server", "leveling" and "if you just want the ISK for your mount". NONE OF THESE APPLY TO EVE. EVE is a one server game, your character doesn't "level up" and you don't buy a "mount" with lots of currency. The page is a copy of another advert scam page, and they haven't even made it match the game they are scamming for, more than changing the currency. It even says "strategies that [...] make kama for you!". Kama is the currency from the Dofus, which unsuprisingly they ALSO have a page for: http://www.mmorpged.net/dofus/
The Everquest 2 page on the same site is better: http://www.mmorpged.net/everquest2/
It says "all you have to do is take the link here to order your copy of EVE Ultimate gold Guide." (whoops, wrong game) and if you click the order link it invoices you for "Lord of the Rings Online Gold Guide". Clever.
Now, does anyone know where I could report it to google (ads) as a scam?
I think it's really cool. Instead of missions where you do things that some computer has randomly generated, you're able to carry out missions designed by humans which actually contributes towards some larger purpose. So rather than some random skirmish that doesn't mean a whole lot, you're fighting for a cause. It's a brilliant idea.
Want to improve your Karma? Instead of "Post Anonymously", try the "Post Humously" option.
I've played FPSs since Wolfenstein 3D, some would say obsessively. The level of hardcore I'm talking about can be summed up looking at the game list I played at the bottom. I got tired of upgrading my PC every two years (downing a console's worth of money each time), keeping up with what's the best bang-for-buck setup (I just want to play), aimbotting and dealing with incompatibilities between hardware components and/or software.
Bought a PS3 and haven't played a PC game since (except Nethack). It just works. Killzone 2 is the only FPS I've played extensively, and it's good. I played the campaign almost through to acquaint myself with the controller, and now it's second nature.
Of course it has slower pace, but that doesn't make it less harder, or more casual. It's just as enjoyable as TO:AOT, TCE, NS (as such a serious PC gamer as you are I'm sure you're familiar with those) or BF2 - without the hassle that comes with PCs I just mentioned. No autoaim, either.
"We have an A-Bomb...what more do you want, mermaids?" --I.I. Rabi, speaking in defense of Robert Oppenheimer