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Ten Ways To Destroy a Hard Disk

Barence writes "Following his blog last week about the homemade hard disk destroyer, Bustadrive, Mike Jennings was deluged with comments from readers, both on the blog and here on Slashdot. Most seemed to like the product, but also offered up far more innovative and madcap methods of hard disk destruction, with a wide range of implements used — household and otherwise. In this follow-up post, he rounds up the best of an imaginative bunch of hard disk destruction methods."

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  1. Missing option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Install Vista on it?

    1. Re:Missing option by jcr · · Score: 3, Funny

      That doesn't actually destroy the drive, it just make the drive wish it were dead.

      -jcr

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  2. How about: Write zeros to the disk? by impaledsunset · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Write zeros. Once. Problem solved. Then you can sell the disk.

    Physical destruction is only necessary if the disk is already broken, and you can't erase it properly.

    1. Re:How about: Write zeros to the disk? by gobbligook · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not too sure about this one anymore. Back in the day certainly.

    2. Re:How about: Write zeros to the disk? by geekoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      Now who the hell is going to trust a post from an NPC. Damn DM is trying to fool us again.

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    3. Re:How about: Write zeros to the disk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      No he can not. There is not a single data recovery company in the whole wide world advertising this capability and there isn't a single lawsuit in which data from an overwritten disk has been used as evidence. Data recovery from overwritten hard disks is BULLSHIT.

    4. Re:How about: Write zeros to the disk? by Rei · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm surprised they only had a list of ten. There must be 50 ways to wipe your platters.

      Just give it a whack, Jack.
      Smash it with a van, Stan.
      Shoot it to destroy, Roy.
      Just listen to me.
      Soak it till it rusts, Gus.
      You don't need to discuss much.
      Toss it in the sea, Lee
      And get yourself free.

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    5. Re:How about: Write zeros to the disk? by zero0ne · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Citation?

      I don't think there is a single legitimate source that has proved this is possible.

    6. Re:How about: Write zeros to the disk? by bmo · · Score: 5, Informative

      Who the hell modded this informative?

      It's perpetuating a myth.

      Even Guttman says that with modern hard disks it's impossible to retrieve data once overwritten.

      http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/secure_del.html

      Epilogue
      In the time since this paper was published, some people have treated the 35-pass overwrite technique described in it more as a kind of voodoo incantation to banish evil spirits than the result of a technical analysis of drive encoding techniques. As a result, they advocate applying the voodoo to PRML and EPRML drives even though it will have no more effect than a simple scrubbing with random data. In fact performing the full 35-pass overwrite is pointless for any drive since it targets a blend of scenarios involving all types of (normally-used) encoding technology, which covers everything back to 30+-year-old MFM methods (if you don't understand that statement, re-read the paper). If you're using a drive which uses encoding technology X, you only need to perform the passes specific to X, and you never need to perform all 35 passes. For any modern PRML/EPRML drive, a few passes of random scrubbing is the best you can do. As the paper says, "A good scrubbing with random data will do about as well as can be expected". This was true in 1996, and is still true now.

      Looking at this from the other point of view, with the ever-increasing data density on disk platters and a corresponding reduction in feature size and use of exotic techniques to record data on the medium, it's unlikely that anything can be recovered from any recent drive except perhaps a single level via basic error-cancelling techniques. In particular the drives in use at the time that this paper was originally written have mostly fallen out of use, so the methods that applied specifically to the older, lower-density technology don't apply any more. Conversely, with modern high-density drives, even if you've got 10KB of sensitive data on a drive and can't erase it with 100% certainty, the chances of an adversary being able to find the erased traces of that 10KB in 80GB of other erased traces are close to zero.

      Also:

      http://sansforensics.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/overwriting-hard-drive-data/

      What this means

      The other overwrite patterns actually produced results as low as 36.08% (+/- 0.24). Being that the distribution is based on a binomial choice, the chance of guessing the prior value is 50%. That is, if you toss a coin, you have a 50% chance of correctly choosing the value. In many instances, using a MFM to determine the prior value written to the hard drive was less successful than a simple coin toss.

      The purpose of this paper was a categorical settlement to the controversy surrounding the misconceptions involving the belief that data can be recovered following a wipe procedure. This study has demonstrated that correctly wiped data cannot reasonably be retrieved even if it is of a small size or found only over small parts of the hard drive. Not even with the use of a MFM or other known methods. The belief that a tool can be developed to retrieve gigabytes or terabytes of information from a wiped drive is in error.

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    7. Re:How about: Write zeros to the disk? by gandhi_2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Using this logic, all hard drives are capable of infinite capacity.

    8. Re:How about: Write zeros to the disk? by Pulse_Instance · · Score: 4, Funny

      After shooting a hard drive with a shotgun once, I'm pretty sure you going to want to keep shooting it.

    9. Re:How about: Write zeros to the disk? by TheCarp · · Score: 3, Funny

      Absolutely true.... there is an easy way to avoid that problem in two simple steps. Either one will work:
      1. Don't do anything that will raise the ire of someone with access to an appropriate microsocope.
      2. If you can't do one, then stop using hard drives from the 1980s. Dude, where do you even find disk controllers for them that work in modern machines?

      -Steve

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    10. Re:How about: Write zeros to the disk? by Anonymusing · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe YOU can, with your handy electron microscope, but mine is still on layaway.

      Also, suppose you were trying to recover a specific file from my disk, and you had to use an electron microscope to recover every single bit. There are 1,889,785,610,240 bits on my 220gb hard disk. Assuming one-tenth of a second per bit to scan, you'd still spend about 6,000 years reading the drive to collect all the data. Trust me: the value of that data will have long expired by then.

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    11. Re:How about: Write zeros to the disk? by danieltdp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Its like this: one close-range shotgun shot to the head kills a man. Wanna be sure the guy is dead? How many bullets do you have?

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    12. Re:How about: Write zeros to the disk? by Lord+Ender · · Score: 4, Informative

      You are almost right, but not entirely. Some drive firmware (as I understand it) will detect failing sectors of the disk and mark them as "bad." Your software won't even see them, as this is done at the firmware level. This means your data will still be there on the disk, even after a zero-write.

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    13. Re:How about: Write zeros to the disk? by Lord+Ender · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, it's true! As a forensic specialist, give me a disk that has been overwritten with zeros, and I can recover approximately 50% of the bits that were on the disk before it was wiped.

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    14. Re:How about: Write zeros to the disk? by prockcore · · Score: 4, Informative

      That and he's assuming that the harddrive actually writes out ones and zeroes. That's not how it works.

      The harddrive stores information on the disk as a constant magnetic field, the only "information" on the disk is the polarity of the magnetic field. So a "bit" on disk is positive, or it is negative.

      The harddrive stores information using flux reversal. A 1 is a flux reversal, a 0 is no change. So 1001110 is stored as +---+-++. Switching polarity is considered a 1, not switching is a 0. 1001110 could also be represented as -+++-+--, it all depends on the current polarity when the data is written. The harddrive uses RLL encoding, so 1001110 is actually written out as 01000010000100.

      Also, you have to read the entire sector, since the data is xored together before it is RLL encoded. A single byte in a sector is garbage unless you xor it with all the bytes after it in the sector.

    15. Re:How about: Write zeros to the disk? by lgw · · Score: 3, Informative

      Government protocol for destruction of a drive that has ever held secret data is to shred the drive until the pieces pass through a 1 mm sieve. No amount of "passes" will erase data on sectors that the drive firmware has marked "bad". 1 pass with random data is adequate to prevent recovery (on a GMR drive, and probably on any post-MFM drive), but only for those sectors the HHD firmware is still willing to write to.

      In practice, the government often just sells the computer without taking any steps to delete the data. But hey, that's government for you.

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    16. Re:How about: Write zeros to the disk? by number11 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, the chances of two consecutive coin flips landing on the same side are EXACTLY 50%.

      You statistics people think you're so smart.

      But you have failed to account for the cases:
      where the coin lands on edge.
      where the coin rolls, and is lost under the refrigerator.
      where a raven swoops down out of the sky and snags the coin midair and flies away with it.
      where a man jumps out of the closet, grabs the coin, and runs away.
      where when the coin hits, it breaks into two pieces, the microfilm flies out, and the pieces come to rest hollow side up.
      where Annie Oakley shoots from the next room and blasts the coin to smithereens.
      the Creationist case, where God, being extremely bored, miraculously causes the coin to turn into a glass of Guiness, which smashes to the ground and gets beer everywhere.
      And probably other cases.

      Where's your 50% now, eh?

  3. Spot Welder? by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The average welding torch, meanwhile, is a fully paid-up member of the "life-threatening but enormously enjoyable" club - and there's no denying that a 3,000-degree flame would reduce the average hard disk platter to a pool of reflective liquid quicker than you could say "data protection". It's a superb suggestion from Steve, who also put forward the angle grinder for consideration. We're worried about him.

    A not as messy method might be a spot welder. They go by different names but my dad's shop used to have a nice adjustable Miller spot welder that would function great for sheet metal work. Anyway, I can envision a homemade spot welder (very trivial to make) with a stand around it and two wooden 2' by 2' pieces of plywood with a handle grip sticking up and two hard drive holes counter sunk with a quarter inch lip to hold each drive (for 3.5" and 2.5" drives). Place the hard drive in the selected hole and clamp your spot welder on it and go to town. Mark your initials in it and you should have a pretty solid drive with no mess, no metal shreds laying around, no flying debris or sparks and probably easier to store/recycle/transport. Man, I wish I didn't live in the city and had a wood and metal machine shop.

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  4. Magnesium by Hubbell · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you have the harddisk out of the shell, buy 1 package of sparklers, if it's inside it, get around 4-5 packages (the metal sticks with grayshit on them)

    Strip the grayshit (magnesium normally, if its something else it probably wont work as well through the case) and crush it into a powder off of all sparklers but 1, you can strip the last one down to about an inch or so from the tip. Pile it all on the harddisk/shell, light the sparkler tip that's left, insert into the pile, and other than it appearing as though the sun is arm's length in front of you for 5-10 seconds, anything underneath shall be melted/vaporized due to the white hot heat released. I've melted through steel grills at my local beach at night this way before, around 11pm 1 package of sparklers prepared this way lit up the local beach on long island sound for about a mile in all directions as if it was daytime.

    1. Re:Magnesium by amplt1337 · · Score: 5, Funny

      And when you win a Darwin award, here I'll be able to say, "I knew him when..."

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  6. the best way to render a hard drive useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    install Windows ME

  7. Ten Ways To Destroy a Hard Disk by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Funny

    1) .45 caliber 1911 style handgun (gets the job done)

    2) .357 magnum revolver (gets the job done with a louder bang)

    3) 10mm auto handgun (gets the job done and lets you pretend to be Ted Nugent)

    4) .44 magnum revolver (gets the job done and lets you pretend to be Clint Eastwood)

    5) 9mm handgun (gets the job done and lets you pretend that you have a real gun ;)

    6) 12 gauge shotgun (gets the job done and looks/sounds really cool)

    7) .30-06 rifle (REALLY gets the job done)

    8) .50BMG rifle (useful if you run into a hard drive with armor plate)

    9) .22LR plinking rifle (gets the job done in a cost effective manner)

    10) .223 fired from an AR-15 (gets the job done while scaring the crap out of any nearby big city types that assume any black rifle with a pistol grip is a weapon of mass destruction)

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    1. Re:Ten Ways To Destroy a Hard Disk by dotgain · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh my God someone used "loosed" correctly!

  8. Leverage the spinning platters to your advantage by bugg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Everyone knows drives are most vulnerable when the heads are engaged, and the spinning platters should cause a single destructive action to potentially spread to the entire circumference. Why not do a write operation to the entire disk and hit it with a hammer during the write? Do that properly and the heads should go flying off in pieces into the platters, and the platters spinning with the loose head material should ensure nothing survives.

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    -bugg
  9. Re:Duh: use a WIll It Blend blender. by impaledsunset · · Score: 3, Funny

    And after you shred the disk with the blender, don't forget to try to return it to get your money back.

  10. Easiest Destruction Method by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Funny

    Give it to my sister. If her laptop and last five cell phones are any indication, it'll end up with vodka dumped on it after a party or smashed to pieces in the middle of the street or even at the bottom of a toilet in a club. You would never believe how frequently that last one happens.

    I swear jean designers are in cahoots with cell phone manufacturers. Just slip your hard drive into the back pocket of a girl in a night club wearing tight jeans ... aw, who am I kidding, this is Slashdot.

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  11. The Actual List ... by neonprimetime · · Score: 5, Informative

    1 - The classic hammer
    2 - "What's wrong with an angle grinder?"
    3 - The average welding torch
    4 - weaponry, from 12-gauge shotguns to high velocity rifles
    5 - Science fans will be pleased to see an electromagnet on the list
    6 - use a drill
    7 - Hard disk platters are generally made from aluminium, which melts at 660.32C
    8 - Electric log splitters
    9 - An industrial shredder
    10 - Finally, another method that scores valuable points for science: Thermite

  12. Fastest way by G-LOC · · Score: 4, Funny

    1. buy rare earth magnet. 2. play with magnet. 3. place magnet in pocket. 4. sit down and put macbook on lap. 5. call apple support. 6. tell technician "err it no work" 7. write good review of apple support.

  13. Re:Leverage the spinning platters to your advantag by SOdhner · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can confirm that this works.

    ...

    Even if destroying the drive wasn't intentional. Sigh.

  14. Nuke it from orbit! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's the only way to be sure.

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  15. Become a plumber by lttlordfault · · Score: 5, Interesting
    After reading the parent article, one thing I noticed was that welding torches and angle grinders seem to create a sense of well being within your average geek. I have to say, as a plumber who also has a keen interest in all things technological, there's nothing more satisfying than breaking into something with either a blow torch, angle grinder or a drill. I love my job, that I have to use these tools every day gives me great satisfaction and makes me feel like a real man :D

    When going through higher education I was originally aiming for a career in IT but half way through decided I didn't really fancy sitting at a desk all day. Becoming a plumber has definitely been the best decision I ever made, I get to work with really cool tools every day, plus I'm at the top of my profession having started plumbing about 6 years ago. I'm one of only 3 people qualified at my level in Mid Wales, and so am in incredible demand. I mainly work on servicing/maintenance on commercial/industrial heating and ventilation systems and see some incredibly cool tech every day. Sorry to brag, but as a self confessed geek, I have to say, plumbing is freaking awesome!

    Kinda off topic, sorry about that. I don't often have any connection with anything posted on /. but like to read about it anyway.

  16. How to ensure all data is lost by Burning1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    My favorite way to ensure all data is lost on an hard disk is to store the only copy of my Master's thesis on that drive.

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  18. Sometimes the hammer has drawbacks by Erbo · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I had some old hard disks I needed to destroy a while back, so I thought I'd just open up the cases and then pound the platters into submission with a hammer. I did this on the kitchen floor.

    Unfortunately, the first drive I opened was an old IBM DeskStar. I had forgotten what DeskStar drive platters were made of...

    One swing and I had to call a halt to the whole operation while I swept a metric buttload of treacherous fragments of shattered glass up off my kitchen floor.

    I conducted the rest of the destruction outside, near the Dumpster.

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