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Apple To Ship Mac OS X Snow Leopard On August 28
okapi writes "Apple announced that Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard will go on sale Friday, August 28 at Apple's retail stores and Apple Authorized Resellers, and that Apple's online store is now accepting pre-orders."
Leopard messed up audio programs of all kinds until Apple finally got around to addressing the issues with the .3 update. The recent .8 update screwed up some people's wireless connectivity. It hasn't been that long since some early adopters lost entire volumes of data when they upgraded.
Snow Leopard is supposed to be fixes, tweaks, and improvements, so maybe this one is a better bet, but still, I can't see myself pre-ordering.
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and yet people are gonna pay $29 for this upgrade which has been mentioned as nothing more than patching up the holes and bugs in leopard and bringing it to a tolerable level of usefulness. Go mac users! Fight the machine!
See, I changed one letter, an 'n', for another, an 'l', as a way of making fun of the new release of Mac OS... I don't have any real reason for thinking it's slow, and it's not like I really have anything against Snow Leopard (apart from the fact that I, myself, am not interested in running Mac OS X any more) - it's just fun to make fun of it.
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Just wait until it gets bloated and begins to slow down. It happened with every previous version of Windows and unfortunately the behavior continues in 7 (I blame the registry). I have never had this issue with OS X, maybe because it separates the OS from the Applications so much.
Considering you pay $500 extra for your mac, it's really not.
As I understand it, the version numbers here are pretty much on par with a Microsoft OS version number so 10.5 to 10.6 will be like going from 98 to Win2k and should be handled the same way
You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding. Anyone who could possible equate going from OSX 10.5 to 10.6 to upgrading Windows 98 to the NT kernel-based Windows 2000 is one of two things:
- Too young to have actually used Windows 98
- Undergoing unhealthy bombardment by the Reality Distortion Field
Reading the list of changes, it looks more like going from 10.5 to 10.6 is more like going from RTM XP to XP SP3 (which includes the upgrades to MS software that comes free with a Windows license like Messenger, Windows Mail, Movie Maker, etc). It's the same operating system, same kernel, same framework, just with various "improvements" and some new programs.
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As an owner of an old Mac laptop that still Run OS X 10.1.8 let me say, that I still think that 10.2 should have been free, because 10.1.8 is so buggy and it will newer be fixed. Using NFS to mount a disk will almost always crash my kernel within an hour.
A big problem with the way that Apple does upgrades is that to get bugfixes, you often do need to buy the newest OS X and it's seldom free. I wish they would split the os from their applications, so the os bugfixes/upgrades were free, but they could charge you if you really wanted the i* software. I don't really like having to buy a new os, just to get working NFS.
That is ironic enough, one of the reasons that people keep their windows XP boxes(Instead of 'upgrading' to Vista. Windows XP was buggy when Microsoft released it, but Microsoft have used the latest many year bug fixing it, and all those bug fixes are free.
And XP bugfixes don't ever require new hardware unlike Mac OS X, where even if I wanted to buy the newest Mac OS X upgrade for Power PC, my laptop could not use it because its graphics chip is to slow. So I can't get all the bug fixes that Apple have developed and released because my Gfx chip is to slow. (Unless I buy new hardware. I begin to see why people call Apple a hardware company).
1) this is an update, not a full installation. There is no "full price" edition, you MUST have mac os 10.5 on it now
Only the $29 version is an update and you need Leopard to use that version.
Tiger users can buy the Mac Box Set at $169 that includes Snow Leopard, iLife 09 and iWork 09.
...that means that you are getting your PCs for $100 a pop.
You should let the rest of us in on the secret.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
You sir are an idiot.
The more you use your OS- the slower it gets. Browser histories get bigger and take longer to open. Search bar suggestions take longer to load (as the data gets more bloated). Folders take longer to open as there is more to list. 'My Computer' gets slower with every drive you add since it feels the need to refresh its data with the latest usage and sizes. Sometimes programs install themselves to context menus and that has some overhead when right clicking. How about programs that have background processes always running... these didn't come with the OS (I am looking at you Java- where the hell do you hide?). And why can't more registry items slow down windows? Searching takes time. Storing it in memory takes... well, memory (which could cause you to swap).
You're right in that an OS doesn't slow down on its own. It's additional applications that do it. But most people don't have a computer to JUST "use" Microsoft Windows. And for some other typical applications (browser, office, email)- usage causes more overhead overtime as the program tries to become smarter or has to show the user more data.
*drops the mic*
> Just so you know, the Snow Leopard specs say that an Intel processor is required, so no G5 support.
I really miss the old Apple, when they used to support their hardware for more than 3 years.
Remember System 7.5.5? That was released in 1996 and supported Macs all the way back to the Mac Plus, introduced 10 years earlier!
You will not get 64 bit kernel, since by default 32 bit kernel is installed on all supported hardware except XServe. Even more, you can not install 64 bit kernel on hardware that could normally run it, since it appears Apple has restricted 64 bit kernel to hardware that has 64 bit EFI. Also, 64 bit kernel is not available on any Macbook.
So, basically, you have 32 bit kernel with 32 bit kernel extensions and drivers, just like in Leopard with hacks to allow it to run 64 bit user applications. True more applications are now 64 bit, but who cares if their mail or calendar is now 64 bit instead of 32 bit? It's not like your mail program needs more than 4 GB of RAM anyway.
And the applications that could really benefit from 64 bit like Photoshop are not available anyway. And once they are available they will run on Leopard as well (which was marketed as 64 bit end to end, when in fact the only application that is 64 bit on Leopard is Chess, and XCode).
So unless you really need that exchange support, I don't see compelling reason to upgrade at all?
As the island of our knowledge grows, so does the shore of our ignorance.
Microsoft's Astroturf campaign has been phenomenal for Windows 7.
It reminds me of the old days when Microsoft Marketing could have sold shrink-wrapped poo; those guys were that good. It's too bad the software was never as good as the marketing.
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Which makes their failure to sell Vista especially noteworthy.
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
Except operating systems are judged by how many people upgrade
Are they? Says who?
The point is there are many ways of rating a product - and sure, it's no doubt of concern to MS that Vista isn't as successful as XP (although we still have to take into account that XP has been on sale a lot longer - what was XP's share in 2003?), but in no meaningful sense is over 20% market share a "failure".
But I don't know why I bother - evidently even posting hard figures from sources is "flamebait", if it doesn't toe the pro-Apple line of the mods. Why aren't mod points given out fairly, randomly, and evenly anymore?