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Global Warming To Be Put On Trial?
Mr_Blank writes to mention that the United States' largest business lobby is pushing for a public trial to examine the evidence of global warming and have a judge make a ruling on whether human beings are warming the planet to dangerous effect. "The goal of the chamber, which represents 3 million large and small businesses, is to fend off potential emissions regulations by undercutting the scientific consensus over climate change. If the EPA denies the request, as expected, the chamber plans to take the fight to federal court. The EPA is having none of it, calling a hearing a 'waste of time' and saying that a threatened lawsuit by the chamber would be 'frivolous.' [...] Environmentalists say the chamber's strategy is an attempt to sow political discord by challenging settled science — and note that in the famed 1925 Scopes trial, which pitted lawyers Clarence Darrow and William Jennings Bryan in a courtroom battle over a Tennessee science teacher accused of teaching evolution illegally, the scientists won in the end."
Did I miss a meeting?
A question for liberals out there:
Why do you insist on attacking the 1% of religious nut jobs that happen to be on the right to discredit the whole idea of being conservative? Why is it that you believe the government (which is known to be corrupt regardless of political affiliation) has the infinite wisdom to not only control the climate, but to control health care, the economy, and even world peace too. I'm glad that the politicians in Washington ignore the tenets that this nation was founded upon (i.e. the Constitution) in order to inflict the "greater good" upon the people.
Lets face it, it's embarrassing to be aligned with either democrats or republicans as they have both done absurdly disgusting acts and said absurd things in public. One more reason I align libertarian, because I don't believe that any politician regardless of beliefs should be bringing more government into my life.
Yes it's an anecdote! Were you expecting original research in a Slashdot comment?
It's a sad statement on our outlook on life that making more money is more important to us than our long-term survival and well-being. There is no rational justification for ignoring the facts. Yes, some of the specific details may still be debated but the overall reality simply cannot be disputed by anyone with a hint of intelligence. Thus, the only reason I can imagine someone arguing against the facts that are before us is greed - they know that making some changes may (*MAY*) be more expensive (in the short term) and thus they want to fight against it in the hopes of making more money.
I don't think we deserve to be the dominant species on the planet any more... sigh...
Strangely enough, I am still convinced that the evidence behind evolution is much less than watertight.
For one thing, there is abviously no chance to have a double blind experiment, since we only have one earth. Second, on the timescales we are arguing about, we are trying to extrapolate judgements from a very small data set.
See how that works?
For a start, I assume you are posting as AC so you can use mod points from your account to 'shape' the debate in your favour. Pathetic.
This is cargo-cult logic. You've seen other people speak from reason and you imitate it, without understanding what reason is.
It doesn't suppose any of the things you claim it does. That is a total straw man. You lose.
You are a retard. You completely, and deliberately, ignore the existence of source of energy and chemicals which do not produce a net increase in CO2. Wind, solar, wave, nuclear, geothermal and hydroelectric can all be harnessed to replace the energy shortfall we will experience by dropping fossil fuels. And we will have to make the switch anyway when fossil fuels become too expensive to extract economically.
A measure of how much of a fucking idiot you are should be the fact you just tried to accuse me of advocating a return to pre-industrial levels of development despite the fact I just advocated the building of more nuclear plants, wind farms and hydroelectric dams.
Before mashing your fists on the keyboard once more, you should consider how badly you got a handle on what I said. Your first instinct, as a fucktard, will to blame me. It is not my fault. I shouldn't have to enumerate my positions on every topic whenever I say anything just to prevent you from making shit up about me.
What you need is introspection, not more online venting.
If we can put a man on the moon, why can't we shoot people for Apollo-related non-sequiturs?
Please refer back to my request for PROOF. Your attempt to turn correlation into the proof is pathetic, and not scientific in any way. You've obviously drunk the koolaid.
Only a proctologist could come up with such "facts." You know, someone whose job consists in examining diseased rectums. I'm more interested in what climatologists have to say about it.
The rich white asswipes couldn't be where they are without the help. And I mean, "the help."
Some left-wing nutjobs got a bunch of mod points and modded down the incredibly insightful Parent post. Please remedy this.
Well - I'm a science fiction fan. The old time science fiction, not space opera, and certainly not today's "blockbuster action films" that borrow some ray guns and stuff from sci-fi.
So, I am perfectly willing to ask "What if?"
Maybe there is something to the idea that pumping tons of poison into the environment affects global warming. While the evidence, to date, doesn't seem to support the claims of the radical green weenies, there MAY BE some validity to their claims.
So, I'm willing to put all those "scientists" into a room, let them go head to head, and start separating the wheat from the chaff.
Meanwhile - the global warming scare seems to be incidentally promoting a couple of damned good ideas. People seem to be decreasing their energy consumption, and they are beginning to clean up the environment. I think we can all agree that factories belching toxic fumes and dumping poison water into the rivers is a "bad thing". Agricultural runoff is another "bad thing". The dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico certainly does us no good - not only are dead zones dead, but they cut into the available food supply that the area should be supporting.
I'm all for cleaning up the environment.
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
It's not ONE guy, it's 120+ members who have signed the petition. For all we know, it was just ONE guy who drafted the APS position to begin with! Why do you think the 120+ members are upset? They weren't consulted!
Fucking denialist liars.
Fucking cult believers.
But when you have millions of people with no health care plan...
See, we are a free country. We know that you can't have freedom without responsibility. We are free to work hard, buy the health plan of our choice and succeed in life. However, that's only half of what being free is all about. We are also free to sit on our fat asses and watch TV every day and do the bare minimum, which includes the freedom of NOT paying for health insurance..
There is no "I disagree" mod for a reason. Flamebait, Troll, and Overrated are not substitutes.
Read the sig, dipshit. If the person modded it down for the reasons you sited, then they broke the moderator guidelines.
OH, and I don't pay high copays, I have not been turned down for pre-existing conditions and I don't have benefit caps. My health insurance is awesome. If it were not, I'd get on my wife's insurance that is just as good. Why do I have such good coverage? Is it because I'm privileged? Nope. It's because I busted my ass to get an education while working full time, joined the US Military to help pay for it, and continued to put in the extra hours to learn new skills after I got hired. I've worked my ASS off get what I have. Just because you're too fucking lazy to put down the bong and leave the basement doesn't mean that I should have to pay YOUR way as well as my own.
The sad part is that under this new government option health care plan, you will be required by law to have health insurance. That means you're gonna have to get a fucking job to pay for it anyway, even if you're paying the government for shitty coverage at a doctor of their choice. So much for your freedom to be lazy.
There is no "I disagree" mod for a reason. Flamebait, Troll, and Overrated are not substitutes.