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Time Denies Issuing DMCA Over Obama Joker Image

An anonymous reader writes "Last week Slashdot posted on the Flickr censorship case where Flickr removed the controversial Obama/Joker image from their site. A representative from Flickr claimed that they only removed the image because they received a DMCA takedown notice over the image and then accused the press and blogosphere of being 'makey uppey,' subsequently locking the thread where Flickr users were complaining about the takedown. But now it appears that Time, DC Comics, and the photographer of the original photograph used to make the parody image are all denying having issued Flickr a takedown notice. Flickr was asked who issued the notice by the Los Angeles Times and told the Times that they were not able to provide that information. The original artist says Flickr has not told him who filed it either, despite the fact that Yahoo has in the past provided the information to people when DMCA takedown requests are issued. So if Time didn't file the DMCA notice, and DC Comics didn't file the DMCA notice, and the original photographer did not file the DMCA notice, then who exactly did?"

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  1. Could it be... by KingSkippus · · Score: 5, Funny

    So if Time didn't file the DMCA notice, and DC Comics didn't file the DMCA notice, and the original photographer did not file the DMCA notice, then who exactly did?"

    Mabye it was Barack Obama?

    1. Re:Could it be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You mean Barack Hussein Obama?

    2. Re:Could it be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why the fuck was that modded flamebait? He was just trying to distinguish the president from all of the other Barack Obamas out there.

      Sheesh, man. Y'all and Flickr are a bunch of fuckin' Philistines.

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    3. Re:Could it be... by ae1294 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Mabye it was Barack Obama?

      No clearly, this is the work of The Joker..... To the BATCAVE!

    4. Re:Could it be... by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 4, Funny

      Y'all and Flickr are a bunch of fuckin' Philistines.

      You racist!!! Some of my best friends are Philistines!

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    5. Re:Could it be... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

      You racist!!! Some of my best friends are Philistines!

      Oh please, you can't call a fan club a 'race'. Besides, he's been terrible ever since he left Genesis, so I see no reason to defend them anyway.

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    6. Re:Could it be... by reub2000 · · Score: 2, Funny

      You mean Barack Hussein Obama II? Gotta distinguish the president from his father.

    7. Re:Could it be... by BobearQSI · · Score: 2, Funny

      My guess is it was probably the MPAA.

  2. The obvious answer by Gothic_Walrus · · Score: 5, Funny

    So if Time didn't file the DMCA notice, and DC Comics didn't file the DMCA notice, and the original photographer did not file the DMCA notice, then who exactly did?

    Batman?

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    1. Re:The obvious answer by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

      *reads the first two posts*

      Oh my god! Barack Obama is Batman's secret identity!

      This explains why he got to keep his "Blackberry", because it's actually his Batberry! ... I'll let myself out.

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    2. Re:The obvious answer by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2, Funny

      You should not obsess so much about the president's berries.

    3. Re:The obvious answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      No, it had to be Cesar Romero, the only authentic Joker. Great Cesar's ghost! Now git offa my lawn.

    4. Re:The obvious answer by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well I'll be honest, it's the Batgonads I'm obsessed with.

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    5. Re:The obvious answer by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 5, Funny

      *reads the first two posts*

      Oh my god! Barack Obama is Batman's secret identity!

      This explains why he got to keep his "Blackberry", because it's actually his Batberry! ... I'll let myself out.

      I've never seen Barack Obama and Batman in the same room . . .

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    6. Re:The obvious answer by ae1294 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've never seen Barack Obama and Batman in the same room . . .

      Ahhhh well I've never seen Barack Obama and HITLER in the same room so what are you suggesting?

    7. Re:The obvious answer by sacdelta · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've never seen myself and Batman in the same room.

      OMG!

      I'm Batman. Why didn't I see it before? It explains so much.

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    8. Re:The obvious answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      That also explains why he doesn't show his real birth certificate. It turns out his real name is Bruce Hussein Obama Wayne and he was born in Gotham City, not Hawaii. So everyone would know he was really Batman if they saw his birth certificate.

      I want to know how he ditches the Secret Service long enough to make it to the bat cave though.

    9. Re:The obvious answer by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

      *reads this and the previous parallel reply*

      Oh my God!

      Batman is Barack Obama, sacdelta on /., and HITLER!!!!

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    10. Re:The obvious answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      HITLER IS BATMAN!

    11. Re:The obvious answer by shentino · · Score: 4, Funny

      Out but not in.

    12. Re:The obvious answer by Mystra_x64 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh my God!

      I've never seen myself and God in the same room. Oh my...

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    13. Re:The obvious answer by bitt3n · · Score: 2, Funny

      It explains so much.

      the fact that you live in a dank cave surrounded by computer equipment, sporting sweatpants that fit like leotards, and communicating to the world via a pseudonym?

  3. Wow, that's some URL. by sootman · · Score: 5, Funny
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  4. The guys with Tin Foil Hats maybe? by JohnnyComeLately · · Score: 5, Funny

    The lack of evidence of a conspiracy PROVES it's gotta be one!!

    1. Re:The guys with Tin Foil Hats maybe? by Atario · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, I'm sure Flickr has a full-time staff of people whose job it is to sift through random photos all day long, looking for ones that fall under several categories of things to get politically upset about, e.g.:

      • mocking Our One True Savior, Barack Hussein Obama
      • failing to properly glorify the Soviet paradise
      • showing Rush Limbaugh without requisite swastika, "666", or other evil identifier branded on forehead

      After all, they are out to get you. BOO!

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    2. Re:The guys with Tin Foil Hats maybe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Didnt you hear? Reality has a liberal bias. No wonder the media is left leaning!

    3. Re:The guys with Tin Foil Hats maybe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's because unlike Europe, the US doesn't use metric left.

  5. I admit by aicrules · · Score: 5, Funny

    It was me. But I did it by accident. I thought I was clicking the Digg It link and must have just missed and clicked the DMCA It link. I did think it was weird that they asked me to provide justification for why I thought it should be expunged. But I just kept typing "The quick brown fox jumped over the ...etc..." till it said I had typed enough and then it let me submit.

    1. Re:I admit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Back off a little. The post was obviously half -"s"-ed.

  6. Oops, sorry about that. by Mononoke · · Score: 2, Funny

    I meant to hit the Cancel button.

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  7. One question.... by 8127972 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why so serious?

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  8. DuPont? by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1, Funny

    My bet is on DuPont. After all, pixels in the image use the exact same colours as paints produced by DuPont. Coincidence? I think not.

    - RG>

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  9. Why the Change In Policy by evought · · Score: 2, Funny

    My guess is that Time's legal team or publishing house or right hand knee jerk issued a DMCA while the people answering the phones and writing articles had no idea bout it.

    If that's the case, then why didn't Yahoo tell them? (As the summary states they've done in the past.)

    Personally, I'm wondering if someone at Yahoo decided to take it down because it personally offended them, and claimed DMCA to cover their asses?

    Exactly, the fact that they will not tell anyone, including the actual rights-owner who issued the request is automatically fishy. I see two basic possibilities:

    1. As you suggest, it was someone at Yahoo acting without authorization.
    2. Someone "put pressure" on Yahoo to do it and made the consequences clear if the revealed who.
    3. Yahoo received a completely bogus DMCA request and is too embarrassed to admit that they were taken (and maybe afraid of legal action over the issue).

    [You will note that I said there were two possibilities and listed three. Since there is some overlap between them, I took the average number of unique possibilities. It is not because I am too lazy to go back and edit the word "two" after coming up with a third bullet point. That would be ridiculous.]

  10. Time issued the takedown notice by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 3, Funny

    Who, me?
    Yes, you.
    Couldn't be.
    Then who?

    The photographer <strike>stole the cookie from the cookie jar</strike> issued the takedown notice
    Who, me?
    Yes, you.
    Couldn't be
    Then who?

    etc.

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  11. Re:Well.... by cliffski · · Score: 1, Funny

    Well its not as one sided as you think. Take, for example the sites such as rapidshare and megaupload that routinely share terrabytes of copyrighted material.
    If you find your copyrighted content on those sites, you can email them a DMCA takedown that MUST include your phone number, your physical address and other contact details.
    Note that megaupload do not provide everyone with their direct contact number, and the people actually uploading the copyrighted content are 100% anonymous.
    If you are luck,y after 48 hours the site might remove the content, taking no action whatsoever against the uploader.
    Within a few hours, the copyrighted content is uploaded yet again, and the whole process starts again.
    All the time, the copyright holder is the one who is giving out their personal information, and the hoster and the uploader remain safely immue to any possible comeback.
    nice business model, and one that the DMCA does almost nothing to impact whatsoever.

    People who criticise the DMCA for being too harsh have likely never used it, or been on the receiving end. Its a very weak piece of law in cases such as these. (The DRM-related aspects of the law are different, and total overkill however).

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  12. Could this be the end of the DMCA? by Psyborgue · · Score: 3, Funny

    If nothing else this proves how easily it can be abused to stifle people's legitimate first amendment rights. With such a high profile case, I can see Joe Public starting to become concerned about this issue.

  13. Re:Who Cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    No the left has noticed that the dog whistle racist crap coming out of prominent parts of the Republican party is in fact racist. Glen Beck is a racist and an idiot. And he has alot of Racist idiot Republican followers.

    We also know what people mean when they bring a gun to a political rally about health care. We know what they are saying even if is clouded behind fire-arms and coded messages. They want to kill the President. We have seen enough dead Presidents to know what these people are promoting.

    Personally, I don't give a shit about flikr or the jackass that filed the DMCA notice. It's not censorship. The picture is widely available and nobody is trying ot stop that. Nobody that matters cares. This is just stupidity.