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Emergency Government Control of the Internet?

TheZid writes "A newly proposed bill would give Uncle Sam the power to disconnect private sector computers from the internet in the event of a 'cyber security emergency.' As usual, our government is trying to take away our privacy by citing security. What actually counts as a 'Cyber-Security Emergency?' Does the president now have the option of disconnecting people when they disagree with his policies? How about disconnecting bloggers that criticize his health care reform? What counts as an emergency? Can political opponents be deemed a cyber-security emergency?"

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  1. Backwards by janeuner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Someone needs emergency control to disconnect Uncle Sam from the internet.

    1. Re:Backwards by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The 9th and 10th Amendments will suffice. We just need to surround the Supreme Court and force the judges to read them, rather than ignore them.

      BTW is this the "change" you were looking for? ;-)

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    2. Re:Backwards by reboot246 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      'Tis a shame that the government considers us citizens the enemy, even more of a threat than any outside force.

      Watch what is happening very closely and pay attention. You're seeing the fall of a once great republic.

    3. Re:Backwards by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think that this "internet emergency" stuff is bullshit.

      However the slimy hordes of "patriots" who cheered for extrajudicial surveillance, rendition, and torture; but are now screaming about secession because obama threatens their internet make me sick.

      It isn't just on this issue, it crops up all over. Whenever Obama indulges in his (far too frequent) vice of endorsing Bush policies, only more eloquent, the howls go up from the hordes who were shouting down opponents of the very same policies, back when the were Bush's.

      For fuck's sake, people, do we have political principles, or just political teams?

    4. Re:Backwards by symbolset · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Most of the founders of this republic considered a government run amok the greatest threat to its citizens. They tried to protect future generations from their own foolishness. Unfortunately foolishness is a persistent and powerful force.

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  2. Fooled again? by UndyingShadow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Meet the new boss...same as the old boss.

    1. Re:Fooled again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      exactly - imagine the outrage and vitriol we would have seen had this occurred a year ago.

    2. Re:Fooled again? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If this were GWB the left would be (Rightfully) screaming at the top of their lungs. I'm not going to hold my breath though.

      Because we all know that GWB = Evil and BHO is just misguided but good hearted.

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    3. Re:Fooled again? by NiteShaed · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm actually aiming this at pretty much all of the sibling posts so far.....

      So, since she doesn't walk in perfect lock-step with the "core" of the Republican party, she's not really a Republican? Apparently the GOP disagrees, since she's y'know, a member of the party.

      This kind of thinking drives me crazy. If the only point of a politician was to enforce their party's goals with no room for disagreement, then why bother having more than three people in each house of Congress? We could just assign one member of each party to be "The (party affiliation here) Senator" or "The (party affiliation here) Representative", and have an election to see which party picks up the extra person to give their party the majority. Then they could just function as a mouthpiece for the party, and do away with all that independent thinking stuff. In the event of a tie, the third chair stays empty.

      Honestly, we need more congress-people who pay less attention to party directives and think for themselves, not less.

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  3. Do it and watch the economy come to a stand-still by popo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd be willing to bet that there isn't a single industry left that doesn't rely heavily on the Internet. Shutting down the Internet is the same as shutting down the economy.

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  4. Re:One more nail in the coffin.... by snl2587 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    not only of our basic freedoms that we FOUGHT and DIED for

    Then how are you posting?

  5. Holy awful summary, Batman! by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Look, there are a TON of legitimate complaints about this bill.

    Abuse of government powers in violation of free speech for political gain, etc, shouldn't be included. Those issues have already been addressed... the federal government already has the ability to step in and limit free speech in private channels if there is clear and present danger. The potential for abuse is already there, and has been there all along. This bill in no way affects that.

    Your ridiculous leading questions detract from the real issues, which are outlined in TFA (for people that oppose a bill like this).

    IMO, instead of "ZOMGWTF Totalitarian State Abusing Government Powers for Political Gain!", the real issue here is that critical infrastructure is in the hands of private for-profit corporations. These companies have the ability to hamstring the US economically through unilateral action (or even by accident). Critical infrastructure should be nationalized, in my opinion, or at the very least very closely supervised to ensure it is secure.

    But I imagine that my views are contrary to the majority of slashdotters, and I expect to be modded into oblivion. No one wants the goobermint in their internets, even when oversight is necessary to maintain the integrity of our economy (such as it is), especially in the face of a directed and concerted attack on that infrastructure.

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  6. Thank God Slashdot commenters always RTFA by frazamatazzle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    otherwise I might see some posts with wildly hysterical hypotheses of what is for sure gonna happen that have nothing to do with the actual bill in the article.

  7. Re:Presidential Ban Button by Stormwatch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Say we get in a war with China and they attack our power stations in the US via a massive cyber attack - do you want there not to be guidelines at that time?

    Sensitive facilities like power stations should not be directly connected to the internet in the first place!

  8. Re:Texas by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Q: Can the the province of Gaul secede from the Roman Empire?
    A: No the Roman Senate and Emperor determined they cannot, but they did it anyway circa 460 A.D.

    Q: Can the American colonies secede from the British Empire?
    A: No the British Parliament determined they cannot, but they did it anyway.

    Q: Can members states like the UK secede from the European Union?
    A: The EU probably would say no, but the outcome depends if the UK has a bigger army or not.

    POINT:

    Secession is not a matter of law, but a matter of force. He who has the most force determines the outcome. If the Southern states had been better organized and won, the U.S. Supreme Court could have issued all the verdicts they wanted, but it would not have changed anything. I recall at one point the U.S. Supremes said it was illegal to deport the Indians living in Alabama to Oklahoma, due to existing U.S. treaties, but the sitting president said, "They made their ruling; now let's see them enforce it," and he did it anyway. In cases like this force rules, not men in robes.

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