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Alan Turing Apology Campaign Grows

chrb writes "Several British news sources have recently reported on the growing campaign that calls for an apology to Alan Turing for his persecution by the British government. The petition to the Prime Minister was started by John Graham-Cumming, who has also written to the Queen requesting a Knighthood for Turing, but admits that a pardon is 'unlikely,' saying, 'The most important thing to me is that people hear about Alan Turing and realize his incredible impact on the modern world, and how terrible the impact of prejudice was on him.'"

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  1. Re:What the? by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Try picking the next 20 people you see on the street and asking them who Alan Turing was. Then ask those same people who George Patton was. Then realize that Turing had about as much to do with winning WWII as Patton did.

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  2. Re:No thanks by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's true that it's just a symbolic act at this point. But symbolism does matter sometimes. Such apologies are a reminder of how we can lose our way, particularly in paranoid times. That's a not-unimportant lesson for our post-9/11 era.

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  3. Re:What the? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You also have to realize there is a fairly sizable percentage of our population who don't know even the basics about science history or history itself. Look at the Jaywalking segments on Jay Leno (a biased sample of course) and poll the people around you. There are plenty of people who don't know what major historical figures like Eisenhower, Truman, the Roosevelts, or even Lincoln really did. I bet not one person that I work with has even heard of Alan Turing or the ENIGMA machine.

  4. Re:just Turing? by Cigarra · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yeah, the hereditary guilt doesn't really make sense... on a personal level. But isn't there a legal principle of "continuity of the state" for which the (government of) England that harassed and prosecuted Alan Turing is the very same that still exists today?

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  5. Gay?! by sanosuke001 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Turing was gay? Wow, surprised I haven't heard of that yet. Though, now when someone is homophobic, I can ask them if they like using computers and if so, tell them they have a gay man to thank for a lot of the theory behind them as well as the allies winning WWII. That should shut them the hell up.

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  6. Re:No thanks by vadim_t · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Would you argue that from a scientific, logic point of view, homosexuality is not a flaw?

    Why, yes I would.

    I mean, if ever I saw a trait that evolution would suppress, this would be it.

    Yet after millions of years, it didn't. Go figure.

    The last theory on it I heard is that homosexuality frees up a lot of time that would otherwise be spent on breeding and caring for their own children. That means they have time to support their tribe/relatives, improving the group's chances of survival. And their genes still get passed on by their straight relatives.

    Not all traits have to be always beneficial in all times and places. Sickle cell anemia is a well known example.

  7. Re:just Turing? by laughingcoyote · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think you mistake organizations for the people who make them up.

    Let us say a corporation takes an illegal action. Everyone within it who was responsible for that resigns and is subsequently replaced. That corporation is still on the hook as an organization, even though none of the individuals within it was responsible.

    An apology to Alan Turing would be, in effect, an official statement that "We realize we were wrong to persecute someone because he was gay. We have learned that lesson and will not do it again." It's perfectly appropriate for the British government to make that statement, because the British government did the persecuting in the first place. It doesn't matter if its members have changed.

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