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New Zealander Invents Segway Alternative

RainbowBrite writes "The YikeBike is the invention of a New Zealander aiming to alleviate city congestion. 'It might look like a collision between a praying mantis and a child's scooter, but it's the result of five years of work to reinvent the wheel, with one important addition: an electric motor. It's a bicycle, but not as we have come to know it. For a start, you sit upright and steer with your hands at your side.'" The YikeBike weighs in at a measly 22 lbs but has a hefty price tag of almost $5,000 US (£3,000). The battery's expected lifespan is only 1,000 charges, but the device has a projected range of around six miles.

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  1. Can you spell Face Plant? by icebike · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seriously, this looks like it could trip on your average pothole, curb cut, or simply breaking hard.

    Yes, your feet are fairly forward where you might be able to catch your self, but I see a lot of separated shoulders in this this bikes portfolio.

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    1. Re:Can you spell Face Plant? by OhHellWithIt · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There is a the pennyfarthing was replaced by the safety bicycle. And, with the range and battery lifetime given, it works out to about 83 cents a mile, which is probably still more expensive than a Hummer.

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    2. Re:Can you spell Face Plant? by Rei · · Score: 5, Funny

      There is a the pennyfarthing was replaced by the safety bicycle [wikipedia.org].

      Huh. So... can I bike if I want to? Can I leave my friends behind?

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    3. Re:Can you spell Face Plant? by fridaynightsmoke · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, your friends don't bike, and if they dont bike, then they're no friends of mine.

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    4. Re:Can you spell Face Plant? by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You're really over exposed as well, i fail to see how this is any better than an electric bike in any way!

      That's because the greatest difference between this and a segway or bicycle was sneakily hidden in the article (and in the pics of the article):

      Crucially, you can fold it into a bag and carry the whole 22lb package anywhere

      It actually looks pretty damn useful (large backpack size when in bag) for being able to carry it into buildings, offices, subways, taxis, other-areas-you-can't-easily-take-an-electric-bike.
      I could totally deal with the range and potential stability dangers, unfortunately that price is a deal breaker.

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    5. Re:Can you spell Face Plant? by mmkkbb · · Score: 2, Informative

      Add a BionX to any folding bike. (Dahon, Montague, Brompton, what have you)

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    6. Re:Can you spell Face Plant? by dr2chase · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The folding bikes already weigh about 25lbs, pre-Bionx. The weight matters, a lot. I bought a cheap used folder once as an experiment, it was great to have it on a business trip, but it was Too Damn Heavy.

      However, if I were spending that sort of money, I would save a little, and get a plain old folder, with no assist -- faster, longer range, "lifetime" warranty on the motor.

      The guys are chasing the "biking's-too-hard-for-me" market -- which, to be fair, is pretty good sized here in the US. It's mind-boggling, here in fat-land, to see all the people who drive to the gym (and all those who just drive, but not even to the gym).

    7. Re:Can you spell Face Plant? by TobyWong · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What exactly is mind boggling about people who drive to the gym?? You have 1.5 hours to workout, shower, and get ready to go. How much of that time do you want to spend in transit? Not to mention the fact that a lot of people go to the gym to attend classes because they enjoy the social component. How about people who drive to the gym, work out, get changed, then go to work or on to some other engagement. You think they should jog there and show up in sweaty gym clothes? What an asinine comment.

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    8. Re:Can you spell Face Plant? by xaxa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I just cycled home about six miles, and I'm so drunk I'm not sure which comment I'm replying to (and this will probably be a bit of a ramble). There was no electric assist, but possibly there was some ethanol assist.

      And I did it on a bike that cost about £80 from a supermarket, since my nice bike was stolen. The cheap, shit bike weighs twice as much, but hey, it's exercise, and I need it after all that vodka.

      Even if I'd only used the bike for this one day (round trip 16 miles, to work and back) I'm already down to £5/mile, use it for over a week and it's cheaper than this "Segway alternative". That's "alternative" as in "Alternative way to pretend you're being all green while some power plant spews out shit to manufacture and charge your stupid divice".

      My maths is probably wrong, I think I forgot to convert the currencies. I'm drunk, live with it.

    9. Re:Can you spell Face Plant? by epine · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is not fully appreciated: the I-don't-want-to-turn-up-to-work-smelling-of-sweat crowd are one of the major lock-ins on full planet destruction. We could solve the environmental crisis if only people were willing to show up not smelling like roses.

      I'm only being mildly facetious. These details matter.

      I can get to most of my appointments in this town by bicycle in twenty minutes, but I can't get hardly anywhere dry. I'm not out of shape. The human body only converts about 25% of caloric energy into propulsion (this is the coefficient on the Concept II rowing machine, which I've seen supported elsewhere such as Tour de France VO2 max estimates). The other 75% streams out my pores.

    10. Re:Can you spell Face Plant? by kklein · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sweat doesn't smell until many hours after exercise

      I invite you to come smell my coworker when he arrives at work after biking on a sunny day.

      I used to bike to work when I lived in Colorado. There were dedicated bike trails that could get you just about anywhere, and the dry, moderate climate meant that even if/when I sweat, it evaporated immediately, and I didn't have to worry much about inclement weather. Also, Colorado is flat (unless you live in the mountains, obviously), so there are no hills to climb. And Colorado culture means you can totally wear shorts to work, so I was always dressed appropriately for the season.

      Here in Japan, I biked to work my first year, but gave up. It was a little too far and too hilly to be attempting every morning and every evening in a suit. The frequent rain was a problem, sometimes resulting in my kind of just hanging out at work until 9, when I could have left at 6, while my wife ate the dinner she made for us alone. Also, with the high humidity, sweat doesn't go away; it just soaks in. Also not cool for the suits.

      Now I drive. I would like to walk, and sometimes do, but that can result in being unpresentable too, if it's in the dead of summer. Also, it's a 45min walk at even a brisk pace. Also, there's the hill. Losing 45min to a commute I can do in 10 with a car just doesn't seem like a good use of my time.

      Basically, what I'm saying is that there are a lot of reasonable reasons not to ride a bike to work. I loved doing it in Colorado--I loved the freedom; I loved the fresh air; I loved the exercise; I loved not spending money on the commute. I wish I could do it again, but I just can't.

      Finally, FWIW, I'm not fat. I'm at ideal weight, and still fit in my clothes from college. I'm 35. So this isn't a "blarg blarg it's not my fault I'm a tub of lard pass the cookies" whinge; it's an attempt to show why there are some very good reasons for not biking to work.

    11. Re:Can you spell Face Plant? by PapayaSF · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We could solve the environmental crisis if only people were willing to show up not smelling like roses.

      Sounds like a good argument for having showers available at workplaces.

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  2. Safety? by neurogeneticist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What happens if you brake going down a steep hill?

    1. Re:Safety? by Anonymusing · · Score: 3, Informative

      This sounds like a Dr. Seuss story.

      A bloke named Mike
      Had a bike named Yike.
      Hello Mike!
      Hello Yike!
      Mike on Yike went down the hill
      Mike went first when Yike took a spill.
      Hello Hill!
      Goodbye Yike!

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  3. Why? by ShadowRangerRIT · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's more expensive than the Segway (which runs $3-5K last I checked), has 1/4 the range, and while it weighs less, this only partially offsets the more limited movement (it can't rise over a curb without aid, a Segway can). Unless your balance is atrocious, you can use a Segway (my 80 year old grandfather bought one as his knees declined). Why would I buy this?

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    1. Re:Why? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why would I buy this?

      There are several factors that I'd want to compare products on if I were in the market for a personal motorized transport device.

      1. Size
      2. Weight
      3. Ergonomics -- sitting or standing? Comfort?
      4. Range
      5. Durability
      6. Cargo capacity

      For me, #6 would be a dealbreaker, the others are ones I could compromise on. What is the cargo capacity on a segway? How many saddlebags and how much weight can it handle? If I couldn't do my family's grocery shopping with it, I wouldn't consider it.

      But I'm not in the market for one of these, since I have a bike with good cargo capacity (and a trailer for when I need it), and I live in a small town, not a city.

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  4. Re:Really good ideas... by schnikies79 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Naa. Everyone I see that gets a DUI switches to a moped.

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  5. The real alternative ... by neonprimetime · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... is to just use your damn bicycle. Why pay $5,000 for that thing? Why pay money for a segway? Buy a bike for a couple hundred bucks or cheaper. It's better for the environment and costs less. I don't see the need for this fancy motor scooter crap.

    1. Re:The real alternative ... by Colin+Smith · · Score: 2, Funny

      You just don't earn enough. This a demonstration (to the opposite sex) that you can afford to burn $5k therefore are "fit" and able to easily provide for offspring.

       

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  6. Re:Really good ideas... by PeterM+from+Berkeley · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow, that's a really negative way to put it. If someone I know starts biking a lot, I think, "wow, good to see you making an effort to improve your health" along with, "thank you for reducing your carbon footprint", not, "you're a drunk loser!"

    About the most negative thing I think of when I learn someone I know is switching to biking is, "Gee, watch out for all the idiots in cars who are trying to kill you!"

  7. yeah yeah. by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Funny

    http://www.bicycle-power.com/electric.html

    Hey. I've had a great idea. People could propel these things using their legs, getting fit at the same time. So you would be moving to your destination *and* saving money in gym fees *and* saving all that waste time at the gym too.

    Think I'll patent it.

    "A method for increasing human fitness and moving towards a destination at the same time."

     

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  8. Re:Really good ideas... by piemonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    At least switching to a whizbang invention has less shame involved.

    Right up until they ask you how much you paid for it.

  9. Personal mobility by improfane · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find this personal mobility devices pathetic for able bodied people.

    Why aren't we satisfied with walking anymore? I will be walking 30 minutes twice a day from September.

    The only issue is boredom and wasting of time. I will counter this with podcasts.

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    1. Re:Personal mobility by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I find this personal mobility devices pathetic for able bodied people.
      Why aren't we satisfied with walking anymore? I will be walking 30 minutes twice a day from September.
      The only issue is boredom and wasting of time. I will counter this with podcasts.

      So... you don't actually do this *walking* stuff now? You don't actually know what it's like walking to work in a suit, when it's 95 degrees with 95% humidity? You don't know what it's like meeting with clients smelling like you just walked out of the gym? You don't know what it's like having to spend $100 a week on drycleaning? And you're calling people pathetic.... that's funny.

      The device would have been great for my last office. It was a 4 mile ride to the train station, the commute into the city, and then a 2 mile subway ride. Would have been fine by bike, but you couldn't take the bike on the train, so you would have needed two bikes. Which I wouldn't have minded either, one bike from home to station, one in the city from station to work, but there wasn't any place to lock up a bike at work and you weren't allowed to bring the bike into the office. The YikeBike could be stowed in a garment bag, that would have been perfect.

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    2. Re:Personal mobility by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Isn't there somewhere at work you could leave your suit, and get changed when you arrive? I used to bike to work and do that. I never even had to take them home - there was a laundry service just over the road.

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  10. Re:Sobriety, please by oldspewey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This thing does one thing the Segway can't: it folds into a shoulder bag and weighs 22lbs. That means I can bring it upstairs into the office once I get to work, or hell even bring it onboard a commercial airliner as unchecked baggage.

    In my opinion, if the longevity could be extended to somewhere north of 2500 charges it'd be a pretty compelling gadget even at $5,000.

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  11. Segway and ordinances by OhHellWithIt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When the Segway was finally unveiled, the disappointment pretty much killed off any widescale distribution of the device (along with crazy city ordinances).

    I don't know about crazy city ordinances, but I was astounded by the speed with which the electric personal assistive mobility device gained recognition and all the rights of a bicycle under Virginia Law. I believe the law changes were in the books even before the first Segway hit pavement in Virginia. And I'm just willing to bet that you'll find similar treatment in state laws on both U.S. coasts.

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  12. Re:1000 charges? by Rei · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Agreed; this is ridiculous. Less range than your average e-bike and more expensive than your average e-bike. Who would buy this? Heck, you could buy a 60-70mph, 35-60 mile range electric motorcycle for just a few $k more.

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  13. STOP!!! by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 3, Funny

    You had me at "praying mantis"!

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  14. Re:Really good ideas... by oldhack · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Pretty good gizmo except for a fatal flaw - me in my car. MUAHAHAHAH!!!

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  15. £3000?! by Manip · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can buy a mopehead ("scooter") for less than £1000 which can go over 30 MpH. Why would I buy this? You cannot use it on roads OR on footpaths in a lot of locations and it is too small to really work as a carry-around and too big to park up.

  16. Not as cool/affordable as the eniCycle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not as cool/affordable as the eniCycle (http://enicycle.com/).

  17. Leave it to a Kiwi by Alzheimers · · Score: 5, Funny

    Leave it to a Kiwi to put training wheels on a unicycle.

  18. Meh- I'll take a Stokemonkey... by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Here's a video of a woman riding one with 2 little kids and 4 sacks of groceries.

    Sure, it's big, it's bulky, but for the most part, you will no longer need a car.

    And for those who like things a little more space age, There's the go-one and similar vehicles, like this one pulling into a campus at Intel.

    The velomobiles will protect you in the rain, and you can't face plant in it. The Stokemonkey is stupidly powerful and extremely practical (try and haul 2 little kids and 4 sacks of groceries on a yikeBike). The YikeBike is for yuppies who want a cool toy.

    However: the future is not to be denied: the future of transportation lies in lightweight electric and electric assist (i.e. electric assisted pedal bikes and trikes) vehicles.

    Get 'em now while they're relatively cheap and unwanted...

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  19. $5000 .... 6000 miles projected by Odin_Tiger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So given that the 6000 miles figure is obviously going to be optimistic, You're basically paying 1$ per mile to look like an idiot and probably be even more vulnerable to getting in an accident than a bicyclist. No, I don't think I'll be getting one of these.

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  20. Don't want to hit a clothesline with this thing! by olsmeister · · Score: 2, Funny

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  21. Re:Really good ideas... by pluther · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you're in the US, you must live on one of the coasts.

    In the midwest, bicycles are generally seen as being for children.

    Drunks, though, usually take the bus or have a spouse drive them around. Or, probably more frequently, just drive without a license.

    The whole time I lived in Missouri, I never saw anyone else commute to work via bicycle.

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  22. Enough please by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Stop trying to one-up the bicycle. It works, it is cheap and it is time tested.

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  23. Slashdot: Negativity From Nerds. by mypalmike · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yet another article where a bunch of know-it-alls put down an invention for not being the status quo. "It's too expensive. It looks dangerous. Ride a bicycle. Ride an electric bike. Ride a motorcycle."

    Go back to your basements and play WoW. The creative people are busy creating.

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  24. Re:Really good ideas... by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're not ostracized because they think you got a DUI. You just smell bad because you biked 10 miles to work and haven't had a chance to shower.

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  25. Re:Slashdot: Negativity From Nerds. by SecurityGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You misunderstand.

    Creativity is good. In developing the next something, there should be a massive burst of creativity with ideas flowing all over the place. Then there's this point where you start winnowing. This one's a cool idea, but nobody wants it. That one's a great idea and people want it, but it will cost us more to make than anyone will pay. Etc.

    It's a hard lesson, but perhaps the value which should come from bashing unsuccessful products is the warning to the next inventor. It's not enough that you think it's cool. It has to fill a need in the marketplace. If it doesn't, it won't be commercially successful.

  26. Yikes! by roc97007 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't wear your expensive suit.

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