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Mach 6 Test Aircraft Set For Trials

coondoggie writes "The aspiration that jets may someday fly at over six times the speed of sound took a very real step toward reality recently, as the US Air Force said it successfully married the test aircraft, known as the X-51A WaveRider, to a B-52 in preparation for a Dec. 2 flight test. The X-51A flight tests are intended to demonstrate that the engines can achieve their desired speed without disintegrating. While the X-51 looks like a large rocket now, its applications could change the way aircraft or spaceships are designed, fly into space, support reconnaissance missions and handle long-distance flight operations. At the heart of the test is the aircraft's air-breathing hypersonic scramjet system."

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  1. Hmmm... by voss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Engines reaching desired speed without disintegrating....thats a GOOD feature to have.

    1. Re:Hmmm... by KangKong · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nice to be the test pilot. "Increase the speed to mach 6, we're just gonna check that the engines don't disintegrate."

  2. With lube strip by imashination · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mach 6, how blades is that?

    1. Re:With lube strip by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 3, Funny

      Fuck everything, we're doing 10 blades.

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  3. "the aircraft's air-breathing hypersonic scramjet" by MRe_nl · · Score: 4, Funny

    WHOOOSH!

    (ducks)

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  4. Rockets vs Scramjets by sanman2 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Rocket supporters say that it's better to clear the atmosphere asap, and accelerate cleanly in a frictionless environment. Scramjet supporters say it's better to accelerate inside the atmosphere as much as possible to exploit its available oxygen, rather than carrying it as extra weight.

    Which costs more energy - carrying the extra O2, or overcoming the friction from having to accelerate in an atmosphere? Which imposes more design compromises?

    Which would be more economical in the long run? Bear in mind that there are 2 kinds of people that need to achieve very high velocities -- astronauts trying to make orbit and intercontinental travelers trying to get to the other side of the world.

  5. Titanium may well get cheaper by PeterM+from+Berkeley · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Recent advances in the production of titanium may bring this metal into wide use in airframes. And everything else.

    1. Re:Titanium may well get cheaper by WindBourne · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, China is trying hard to lock up LOADS of resources all over the world, but the biggies are Rare Earth minerals as well as Uranium. This last week, they quit exports of a select group of REMs that they have control of, and others that they do not have total control of, they dropped the possible exports. At this very moment, Australia is deciding whether to sell them several of their mines. Hopefully they do not as they are REM mines and will be needed by the entire rest of the world. These minerals are concerned with making permanent magnet motors that are going into Electric Cars as well as are used in nearly all electronics.

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  6. Real step? by SlayerofGods · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The X-43 already did mach 9.68.
    This is actually a bigger step towards making a mach 6 missile rather then a mach 6 plane....

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  7. Re:Not for aircraft. by maeka · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When calling the Concorde (or any other aircraft) "too expensive to create, manufacture, and maintain." on needs to take into account the ticket price the market will bear.
    Since the Concorde was not designed with a range suitable for flying the Pacific routes, it was forced to try to make up it's high costs on the much tighter margins of the Atlantic routes. Had it been able to fly the higher margin Pacific routes it is quite possible it would not have been too expensive to be sustainable - even at the same (or slightly higher) cost basis.

  8. Re:Not for aircraft. by moosesocks · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The concorde was profitable in its last years (not extremely profitable, but it made money, which is more than most airlines can currently say).

    In the end, its operators decided it wasn't worth maintaining/refurbishing the planes, scrapped the program, and wouldn't let competitors purchase the unused aircraft. Richard Branson allegedly made several serious offers for the planes, all of which were rejected. Numerous allegations have been made that the grounding of the Concorde fleet was a result of a conspiracy between Airbus and the airlines (unsubstantiated, but certainly plausible, especially in light of their refusal to sell the craft to other carriers at a time when the company was losing money)

    In short, we got lazy and stupid.

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  9. Re:Not for aircraft. by Myrcutio · · Score: 3, Funny

    The F-22 wasn't created for our time, it's intended use is to aid our future brethren in overthrowing their tyrannical alien overlords. See the documentary here.

  10. It's no concorde by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's no Concorde in any sense. The Concorde was created to make an efficient aircraft, not a fast one. This is the history I learned in college:

    Jet engines are more economical the faster you get. Too bad the air friction (drag) gets worse the faster you get. For subsonic aircraft with single flow engines, the optimum lies just a bit below the speed of sound. As there were only single-flow jet engines at that time, the Concorde was created to try to shift the optimum to above the speed of sound. They succeeded in that.

    But then, the multi-flow jet engine was invented. Instead of blowing the air out even faster, a more powerful jet engine could now mount an extra turbine that drove an extra flow of air, thereby spreading the power over more air, that was accelerated less. Bummer. Now the Concorde was just a fancy fast-flying airliner.

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  11. Re:That's fine for the Air Force, but ... by D+Ninja · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hmmm...I'm reading my post, and I don't mean to say that it would be great 9/11 would still happen. Don't get me wrong - 9/11 sucked and I would never want that to happen again. But, when I say "what's great" is the fact that nobody seemed to stop and think about how pointless many/most of the security measures actually are. (AKA, I was attempting sarcasm and it definitely did not come through...my apologies.)