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Church of Scientology Proposes Net Censorship In Australia
An anonymous reader writes "Submitted by the Australian branch of Scientology to the local Human Rights Commission is a proposal to eliminate anonymity on the net and the removal of critical websites (MS Word document).
The submission is listed as #1931 at this page at the Australian Human Rights Commission." (Read on below for some of the details of what the Scientologists propose.)
"SUMMARY OF RECOMMENDATIONS: Recommendation 1: The implementation of Criminal and Civil Restrictions on Religious Vilification. Recommendation 2: Restriction on Anonymity on acts of Religious Vilification: 2.1 Websites created with primary purpose of inciting religious vilification shall be removed or their access to the Australian public restricted. 2.2 Creators of websites whose primary purpose is the incitement of religious vilification shall be prevented from concealing their identity. Recommendation 3: Restriction on Religious Misinformation and
Misrepresentation known or reasonably known to be untruthful in the Media
Recommendation 4: Include a form of Bill or Charter of Rights into the Australian Constitution, which prevents the Commonwealth from making any law, which 'directly, indirectly or incidentally' prohibits the free exercise of religion to the extent of such prohibition."
Are there any Scientologists in the Australian govt? And does this just happen to coincide with Tom's recent visit down-under?
Scientology is a dangerous cult
Scientologists have never been too fond of freedom of speech. Hurts their profit margins.
Why, yes! I AM new here.
Do they define 'critical' as every website that speaks negatively about Scientology? By the way: There goes Slashdots anonymous features!
Well, I'm not accusing the Co$ of anything, but if I was a group that uses heavy peer pressure and the fact that as a group I have vastly more resources than any individual, monetary and time-wise, I'd certainly want anonymity stripped away so I know which individuals I'd have to silence to send out a message to other individuals.
I just wish they'd do something like this in Europe. It would do a huge service towards net anonymity, considering how many governments react to pretty much anything the Cult spews.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Anyone reading Scientology material becomes pretty much immune against their brainwash. Its more like a very badly written sci-fi novel than anything else. Letting people read it in a safe enviroment makes recruting more cultists so much harder.
The only way to get rid of stupid cults like Scientology, Christianity and the like is to expose them freely and put them against real knowledge and science. Religion has no place in a modern society.
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Though Labor and the religiots are committed to forcing through a national censorship infrastructure. If that's in place, expanding what is restricted is a matter of mere administrative fiat, no troublesome democratic debate required.
Thankfully, the firewall plan seems to have trouble getting the numbers in the Senate, and the fiasco of the recent technical trials (deemed a "success" by the government with no actual objective criteria having been cited and scant detail) is unlikely to help. Hearing that Tom Cruise's crazy friends want to use it to stamp out criticism of them probably won't be any more helpful.
If you publish proposals like this as a MS Word document, you should be censored from the internet.
Um, that's the core of the scientology "religion". You should know this.
And yes, it is indeed the fevered mumblings of a burnt-out science fiction author who has indulged in too much alcohol and too many prescription painkillers.
with a hidden, apparrently gnaa, sub-troll
SURELY NOT!!!!!
If we can link this pack of religious nuts with the other lot that are already pushing for filters, we can probably kill it for good.
I know Germany has some odd laws, but isn't that kidnapping and/or false imprisonment?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
For the same reason a church has lightning rods on it.
Thanks, CoS, for being the Jack Thompson of the Australian internet censorship debate.
People who support the censoring of the net in Australia are now aligning themselves with the CoS. In every debate which occurs from this date forward, we can link the pro-censorship camp to the CoS and all their inanity. All the repressive future possibilities of the implementation of internet censorship have graduated from mere conjecture by "paranoids" to an actively pursued agenda by a religious organisation.
It is there in writing. The future we fear under a regime of censorhip, being actively pursued for all to see. We may have been called tin-foil hatters or paranoid delusionists, but we were right. More importantly, we've been proven right while it's still not too late to stop it.
This is a great day for anti-censorship campaigners.
CoS, we can hardly thank you enough.
...Because these all involve "Religious vilification".
Unless we all lost our minds and considered Scientology as some sort of religion, rather than a group of Heinlein fanboys who took it waaaaaay too far, none of these would benefit them.
So, nothing to see here, just another Modest Proposal to keep the Kids(tm) safe.
For the same reason why you need an appointment when you go to a clairvoyant.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Recommendation 1: Make it illegal to make fun of us so that we have legal grounds to sue.
Recommendation 2: Eliminate Anonymity on the internet so that we know who we can sue.
Recommendation 3: Stop letting the media make fun of us or we will sue.
Recommendation 4: Make a law so that you can not tax us when we sue.
Everybody should be posting on this article Anonymously by the way
They say that everything in the media and promoted by anonymous is slander but truth is a defense; have they put forward any evidence to contradict what has been said that's not propaganda or are we just meant to take their world for it; we wouldn't have half the current affairs shows we have if organizations had to give their ok beforehand (not necessarily a bad thing tho more time for proper news), If it is only those that are against the organization that are willing to speak you cannot discredit them without speaking out yourself just buy saying no there wrong. You get reputations for a reason and attempting to silence opposition through law will not have the effect of changing opinion; indeed it could only solidify it, only truth can do that through transparency and credibility; and sanity helps.
Probably not the most helpful or coherent post but aw.
In Google we trust.
Scientology is not a religion because it is a for profit organization that provides "mental health services" to its paying members. Recall that believes that its counsel is an appropriate and even superior replacement for psychotherapy.
You reap what you sow...and the COS has sown quite a lot of evil over the years...
The comment was rated funny because:
1) We assume that everyone here is intelligent
And
2) There isn't a "Dumber than horse shit" rating
-Rick
"Most people in the U.S. wouldn't know they live in a tyrannical state if it walked up and grabbed their junk." - MyFirs
I must say that "Creating a Religion" is brilliant!
It worked, it demonstrated how incredibly stupid religions are (for some people), and the rest either get angry, or follow suit under the radar.
Morality aside, one should applaud the demonstration of it. It's a tremendous example of execution of a hypothesis: Creating a religion=rich.
All religions are cults, some are just bigger than others.
It's the media that likes to label small religions as cults, especially if they differ from the larger ones in some significant fashion or another.
I don't believe that. I have a hard time labeling any belief system as a cult if its members freely and openly offer to tell non-members everything that it believes. For instance, go into a Catholic or Baptist or Hindu or Islam or Buddhist place of worship. Ask the first person you see if they'll tell you what they believe. Chances are strong that they'll invite you in, answer any questions you have in as much depth as you request, give you a free copy of their holy book (if they have one), and offer you as much free literature as you can carry to take home and read on your own.
I wouldn't consider any of those a cult for that reason. You can find out up front exactly what they believe, and choose to join or walk away.
Now, try that experiment with the CoS. Or, better yet, don't.
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?