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Twitter Says Your Tweets Belong To You

CWmike writes "Twitter has modified its terms of service to state unequivocally that messages posted belong to their authors and not to the company. 'Twitter is allowed to "use, copy, reproduce, process, adapt, modify, publish, transmit, display and distribute" your tweets because that's what we do. However, they are your tweets and they belong to you,' wrote Twitter co-founder Biz Stone in a blog post Thursday announcing the modifications. Twitter is still hammering out a set of guidelines for developers on the proper use of the company's API. What do Twitterers think of the TOS changes? Barbara Krasnoff writes, ' Twitter announces new ToS. Tweeters shrug,' noting that some appreciated the company's transparency in contacting its users and pointing out the changes that were being made."

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  1. All your tweets are belong to you! by chrisj_0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    couldn't help myself!

  2. CYA move by jmanforever · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sounds like Twitter is trying to cover their butts.

    "No officer lawman sir, That is not our terrorist message, and we don't have anything to do with it. All the messages belong to the person who wrote them."

    1. Re:CYA move by NoobixCube · · Score: 4, Informative

      They claim all usual rights of ownership, but foist responsibilities back on the user.

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    2. Re:CYA move by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sounds like Twitter is trying to cover their butts.

      "No officer lawman sir, That is not our terrorist message, and we don't have anything to do with it. All the messages belong to the person who wrote them."

      They don't need that kind of CYA. None of the places that do claim to own everything you write are held accountable for that kind of thing. They throw in a few disclaimers, and at the end of the day they might be asked to take something down but they aren't going to be prosecuted for having hosted a terrorist message whether their TOS automagically claims ownership or not.

      I think that they just realized that they can basically ask for every relevant right they need in their TOS anyway, so they can earn some cheap good PR with their users just by giving up on their plans to publish "The Poetry of Twitter" without having to pay any of the twit authors.

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  3. Cake and eat it! by Cryogenic+Specter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sounds like they get to have their cake and get to eat it too. They get all the benefits of using user generated content any way they want but have none of the liability. Good for them.

  4. Re:If They Truly Belong To Me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's a square deal as is. You get to keep the copyright for your "work", but you cede the rights necessary for Twitter to disseminate your thoughts. You don't cede them to anyone else, and Twitter can't sue you for reusing your deep thoughts somewhere else.

    The ability to revoke your stuff would indeed be nice. But to say that without it the deal is meaningless is just lame.

  5. Re:Your tweets belong to you but... by truthsearch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Same as on /. Look down...

    All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective owners. Comments are owned by the Poster. The Rest © 1997-2009 SourceForge, Inc.

  6. Re:Your tweets belong to you but... by itsdapead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    we can do whatever we want with them....

    What alternative do you suggest?

    Option A: don't claim the right to "use, copy, reproduce, process, adapt, modify, publish, transmit, display and distribute" tweets. Problem: publishing material on a website involves using, copying, transmitting, displaying, adapting, modifying and distributing it, so they would be infringing copyright and, sooner or later, get sued by some troll (in other news: Twitter operates in countries outside the US which don't have the same "fair use" clauses in their copyright laws).

    Option B: claim ownership of everything. They could do this if they wanted to - nobody forces you to post your 120 character masterwork on Twitter.

    Option C: lock out the public and pay professional twitterers to produce pithy and erudite tweets on a "work for hire" basis. Tempting, but I don't see the business model.

    Your call.

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  7. Re:If They Truly Belong To Me... by emurphy42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Specifically, there's a "delete this tweet" option attached to each tweet, and a "delete my account" option under Settings. I haven't tried either one, but surely you can create a second account and do so?

  8. Re:Your tweets belong to you but... by genner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    we can do whatever we want with them....

    What alternative do you suggest?

    Option A: don't claim the right to "use, copy, reproduce, process, adapt, modify, publish, transmit, display and distribute" tweets. Problem: publishing material on a website involves using, copying, transmitting, displaying, adapting, modifying and distributing it, so they would be infringing copyright and, sooner or later, get sued by some troll (in other news: Twitter operates in countries outside the US which don't have the same "fair use" clauses in their copyright laws).

    Option B: claim ownership of everything. They could do this if they wanted to - nobody forces you to post your 120 character masterwork on Twitter.

    Option C: lock out the public and pay professional twitterers to produce pithy and erudite tweets on a "work for hire" basis. Tempting, but I don't see the business model.

    Your call.

    D: Move the server offshore and pirate other people's work.

  9. Re:Your tweets belong to you but... by itsdapead · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sorry, missing option D:

    Option D: insist that all Tweets were submitted under a copyleft license. Trouble is, every single tweet would then read:

    This tweet is released under the reallyfree copyleft modified attrribute-alike noncommercial license variant 7b which pe

    Again, maybe an improvement.

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  10. Re:If They Truly Belong To Me... by Korbeau · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have all your tweets copied in notepad. I will print them on paper and send them back to you by mail, but first let's play a little game, mister du Keyboard. Mouahahhhahhhahahha *click*.

  11. Hmmmm.. by rickb928 · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you love

    your tweets,

    set them

    free.

    I'll kill

    any

    that get

    to

    me.

    Burma Shave.

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  12. Re:Where is the money? by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They don't host ads... not for long! This is a typical dot bomb strategy - first you get lots of users, then you change the rules to start generating revenue, then you cash out quickly before everybody quits due to the rule change.

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  13. Re:Your tweets belong to you but... by Itninja · · Score: 4, Funny

    What they don't tell you is "the Poster" is a code name of a multinational terrorist organization called "Sphere Tot". And said organization is stockpiling all your posts to be used in the inevitable Irony War of 2012.

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  14. In other news by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 4, Funny

    The city sewage treatment plant has announced that everybody owns their own flushings.

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  15. Re:If They Truly Belong To Me... by Lazaryn · · Score: 3, Informative

    If only I had some mod points. It's true that the "delete" button doesn't actually delete anything, it just hides it from SOME parts of the site. I've been caught up on that once before due to an accidentally offensive tweet (With only 140 characters be careful on what words to condense/remove) that I immediately deleted and rewrote. A few months later I got an angry message as someone found that "deleted" tweet.