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Sam Ramji, Microsoft's Open Source Guru, Is Moving On

barking_at_airplanes writes "Some called him crazy a few years ago when he joined Microsoft to run the Open Source Software Lab, but Sam Ramji endured and made real differences to how Microsoft treats open source and how open source people view Microsoft. Ramji is now heading back to Silicon Valley to join a cloud computing startup. Sam comments in his announcement: '46 months later, I am amazed at the changes that have occurred for the company, for the team I belonged to, and the sentiments of the industry.' It's a statement which, 46 months ago, few Slashdotters would have thought could come true! With Sam leaving, can Microsoft's positive momentum into open source continue successfully? Bill Hilf says they're 'actively seeking someone to fill Sam's shoes.'"

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  1. I know! by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hire Stallman!

    1. Re:I know! by Errtu76 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Better yet, have Microsoft 'ask Slashdot'. I'm sure there'll be lots of people with ideas on how to continue/improve things.

    2. Re:I know! by Norsefire · · Score: 4, Funny

      Stallman: We must only use free-software, by my definition
      Ballmer/Gates: We must use only Microsoft products
      Jobs: I don't care what we use but it has to look cool and have shiny logos on it
      Torvalds: I don't care as long as it does one thing and does it well.

      Yeah ... I wouldn't be too worried.

    3. Re:I know! by Timosch · · Score: 4, Funny

      I just had this image of Stallman and Ballmer in a room together.

      Uhm, the chairs would propably get caught in Stallman's beard.

    4. Re:I know! by aetherworld · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wait... so we would get free Microsoft products that look cool and only do one thing, but they do it well? Can we please lock those guys up in a room already until they come up with that idea?

    5. Re:I know! by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 3, Funny

      If getting a job offer from Microsoft didn't kill him, I'm not sure what would. Ninjas?

      No, wait, that's been tried. (http://www.yale.edu/ypu/blog.html)

    6. Re:I know! by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bull, meet china shop!

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    7. Re:I know! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wait... so we would get free Microsoft products that look cool and only do one thing, but they do it well? Can we please lock those guys up in a room already until they come up with that idea?

      They have already written FDISK decades ago...

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    8. Re:I know! by erebus24 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I smell a sitcom!

    9. Re:I know! by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 2, Funny

      Even scarier would be Stallman, Ballmer, Gates, Jobs, and Torvalds all together in the same room planning to take over the world...

      I'd rather see them in a room playing D&D. That would be interesting.

    10. Re:I know! by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      Bullshit.

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    11. Re:I know! by jonadab · · Score: 5, Funny

      You don't want to put Jobs and Stallman in a room together, trust me. Gates and Stallman would probably just give eachother the cold shoulder (what would they have to say to one another, after all?), but Jobs would probably do something to get Stallman riled. Could get messy.

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  2. Microsoft promises to play nice *this* time by David+Gerard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft has announced Microsoft CodePlex, its new Open Source foundation.

    "We want to be more responsive to your needs," said Sam Ramji of Microsoft during a Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit panel this week as he wiped rotten tomatoes off his suit.

    "We want all open source innovation to happen on Windows. In practice, Windows is too slow, and just putting Linux underneath the same software stack triples performance. So we're running the Windows versions of the software on Linux using Wine. We'll also be funding the Wine on Windows initiative."

    The new Microsoft Amazingly Open And Genuine Public License allows you complete freedom to use, modify and redistribute the software provided that every copy comes with a DVD of Windows Vista Ultimate, you acknowledge that Microsoft's FAT patent protects a remarkable and valuable innovation in computer science and all accompanying documentation is in OOXML. Also, all your data belongs to Microsoft.

    The overwhelming dominance of Microsoft was assured, he said, pointing to their success in paying netbook manufacturers to use Windows XP and paying US retailers not to stock the Linux versions of the computers. "We're also enforcing our patent on right-clicking. And on the number seven." Ramji reassured journalists of his absolute faith in the power of Microsoft's vision, just before quitting to work somewhere -- anywhere -- else.

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    1. Re:Microsoft promises to play nice *this* time by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Funny

      But I think something like Wine on Windows to intercept old Windows API calls will literally be a part of the next (post-7) OS from Microsoft.

      So... we wait another 6 months or so? /duck

  3. This is the first I've heard of him. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is the first I've heard of him. If I had heard of him before now, I sure as hell didn't remember him.

    "Success", "open source" and "Microsoft" can only come together in one way: the release of ALL of Microsoft's source code under the BSD or MIT licenses. We're talking .NET, Windows, Internet Explorer, Office, SQL Server, and all of their lesser-known business software.

    That clearly hasn't happened, so there hasn't been any success here.

  4. Re:Really? by minsk · · Score: 1, Funny

    [Citation needed]

    [1-999]

  5. Re:Not ever Microsoft employee is evil by Enderandrew · · Score: 3, Funny

    How are they less evil? All they have done is simply went from ignoring OSS to attempting to embrace and extend it.

    They've made patent pledges not to sue, allowing others to use their patented technologies for free. Old Microsoft would never have done that.

    The IE team has worked to better respect web standards. The IE team even sends open encouragement to Firefox, saying they welcome innovation and competition. I read an interview with an IE developer who said his daughter accused him of breaking the internet. Since IE 6, the IE devs have made several positive strides for far more compliant rendering.

    Microsoft is assisting the Mono developers, but again Mono owns all copyright on all the code, and the code is GPL. Microsoft is also assisting the same developers with Moonlight.

    When you load IE, it prompts you to choose a search engine. Firefox and other browsers simply give you a default with no choice.

    Microsoft has released a boat-load of technical documentation, enabling the Samba devs to reach 100% feature parity for better interoperability.

    Microsoft just released GPL code directly for the first time. It was Hyper-V drivers for Linux, which is self-serving, but it does benefit interoperability. It is possible in joint ventures like these to have a win-win. I'm fine with that.

    There are plenty of examples like this. It is entirely possible that Microsoft is only playing nice because the EU is demanding it. Or it could be that they honestly want to start playing nice. Either way, the result is that Microsoft is less evil than before.

    Is Ballmer still a patent troll? Yes. Is Microsoft brainwashing Best Buy employees with FUD? Yes. Was the OOXML fiasco illegal? Yes. (It is against US federal laws to bribe foreign officials). Was it illegal when Microsoft used bribes to block foreign Mandriva deals? Yes.

    But Microsoft is more open than they were before. They used to be 99% evil, and now they're more like 90% evil.

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