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First Botnet of Linux Web Servers Discovered

The Register writes up a Russian security researcher who has uncovered a Linux webserver botnet that is coordinating with a more conventional home-based botnet of Windows machines to distribute malware. "Each of the infected machines examined so far is a dedicated or virtual dedicated server running a legitimate website, Denis Sinegubko, an independent researcher based in Magnitogorsk, Russia, told The Register. But in addition to running an Apache webserver to dish up benign content, they've also been hacked to run a second webserver known as nginx, which serves malware [on port 8080]. 'What we see here is a long awaited botnet of zombie web servers! A group of interconnected infected web servers with [a] common control center involved in malware distribution,' Sinegubko wrote. 'To make things more complex, this botnet of web servers is connected with the botnet of infected home computer(s).'"

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  1. Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just waiting for the flamefest here of Linux vs Windows botnets.

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    1. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by symbolset · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just waiting for the flamefest here of Linux vs Windows botnets.

      OK, I'll start. Linux webservers are so lame they don't even include the facility for users to disable them remotely in case of malware distribution.

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    2. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by easyTree · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just waiting for the flamefest here of Linux vs Windows botnets.

      It's nice to see Lo0niX has advanced to the point where it can now successfully run botnet software. I'll bet there's no gui though. I'm not up on linux commands so don't laugh but I'll wager it's something like:
        * apt get b0tnet -s -x9 -secret -warez -pr0n -infectWindows=1 -p

      Rather than the point-and-click convenience you'd expect on windows.

      Maybe games are next? Quake-n for linux would be nice.

      How's that? :D

    3. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Timothy+Brownawell · · Score: 4, Informative

      This isn't technically a botnet: [...] These are simply rootkitted servers and they appear to have been done manually. The unique aspect of this is that it seems to be coordinated,

      Which is what makes it a botnet.

      so the MS astroturf team has decided to call it a "botnet".

      "define: botnet" ... I see nothing in there that precludes manually-compromised systems.

    4. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by LaskoVortex · · Score: 5, Funny

      Rather than the point-and-click convenience you'd expect on windows.

      It's not that easy on MS windows. After you click the link to the tennis player nudie pix, your machine locks up. Then you have to *hard reboot* (without the help of the blue screen to let you know your computer crashed). Only after you hard reboot, usually by pulling the power cord all the way out, can you run the botnet software.

      Windows really isn't as user friendly for botnets as everyone thinks it is. I hope 7 does better.

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    5. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Timothy+Brownawell · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I suspect you are astroturfing for MS here

      And I suspect that you are a troll.

      and so will want "botnet" to mean "any set of two or more compromised computers". But that definition means that the number of windows botnets would be astronomical, so be careful about your definitions.

      Did you even read what I linked to? A botnet is a collection of compromised computers that share a Command and Control channel.

      Instead I propose the following definition:

      Because the generally accepted definitions don't suit your purpose?

    6. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by maharb · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why should it have to self propagate and at what degree do current bot nets self propagate without users compromising their systems.

      Servers don't roam the net downloading porn and music.

    7. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ...so the MS astroturf team has decided to call it a "botnet".

      I'm curious--how can I tell when an idea is being promoted by the "MS astroturf team" and not by regular not-so-clueful reporters that might mistakenly use the wrong term?

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    8. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Kjella · · Score: 4, Funny

      Rather than the point-and-click convenience you'd expect on windows.

      Actually, they found Amazon had patented that so they had to go with the no-click experience. Got to respect corporate IP, you know.

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    9. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Nazlfrag · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If anyone was astroturfing for MS they would never say the word 'botnet' unless they are insane.

      This is definately not the first time a unix system has been comprimised by an administrator being slack about their passwords. Why it's an issue is because each system is being used to control multiple infected windows machines, something I doubt an astroturfer would want to draw attention to (excepting the previously mentioned insane ones).

      It's far more likely that this sort of activity has been going on for years and it's just the first time any mainstream media has caught up on the fact.

      The solution is so simple, just protect your root passwords for fucks sake, yet we know there are countless incompetent admins without any clue out there and this shit should be expected, in that it is impossible to aviod voluntary security breaches.

    10. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by the_womble · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Only an idiot would claim that servers being compromised because admins choose to send passwords over the internet in plain text proves anything about how secure the software running on those servers is.

      Ah.....OK, I expect LOTS of such claims.

    11. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by c6gunner · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Instead I propose the following definition:

      botnet: an automated and self propagating network of compromised machines.

      That's a ridiculous definition. The vast majority of botnets aren't self-propagating. A program that is self-propagating would be a worm. If it happened to maintain communication with other compromised machines, then it would also become a botnet. But self-propagation has never been a requirement in the definition of "botnet".

      Of course, the easiest way to make yourself a botnet is to upload an infected file to the Kazaa network, or some similar file-sharing network. Once it's on there I suppose it becomes "self-propagating", in a way. But that's a different matter entirely.

    12. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Anpheus · · Score: 4, Funny

      As a user of Windows 7, I found it exceedingly helpful. I was pleased when Clippy popped up and said, "It looks like you're trying to infect your computer, do you want some help?" At which point Clippy showed me how to use Aero Shake(tm) to get rid of all the distracting popups that would divert me from trying to find the source of all malware. After I encountered a fork in the road, so to speak, Clippy demonstrated Aero Snap(tm) so I could compare the sites I was surfing side by side. At long last, I found truly good malware on a *stan website. Top level domain was for some country like Miyagistan. Thankfully, I bought Windows(tm) 7 Ultimate Edition(tm) and downloaded the appropriate language pack so the viruses I downloaded would be more at home.

      Running it was as easy as clicking on it and clicking "Continue." Ever since then I've been living in a peaceful coexist

    13. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by the_womble · · Score: 3, Funny

      It also looks likely that the passwords were stolen from the admin's compromised windows desktops!

    14. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by mysidia · · Score: 3, Informative

      No. Manually compromising servers and setting up nginx on them to serve files does not make it a botnet. "Botnet" or not has nothing to do with infection vector.

      It refers to compromised machines that have a certain 'intelligence' so that they form a network of their own, and allow the botmaster to easily deploy new instructions to them all. And all bots will execute the new instructions automatically.

      Manually compromising servers and installing a tool that causes all those servers to rendezvous with or receive commands from a central control point to execute instructions would make them a botnet.

      The key question would be: do the compromised servers also run a program that periodically polls a control station for commands, or does the script kiddie manually command individual compromised servers?

      If the servers only run nginx to serve files, or just periodically pull new files to serve from other servers (even a central one), then no, they're not a botnet, even if they've been backdoored so the blackhat can come back later and upload new malware files.

      To be a botnet, there must be a button where a botmaster can deploy instructions or code to a control point, and the nodes will automatically perform the instructions directed.

    15. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by mysidia · · Score: 5, Informative

      Botnets do not have to be self propagating. The very first botnets were on IRC.

      Where in fact, the machines weren't compromised. The owners of the machines actually ran the code (commonly Eggdrop) and voluntarily joined their bots to the botnet. They weren't even malicious.

      The term "botnet" does not imply a network of compromised hosts, or even malware. It refers to a network of robotic agents that are in communication with each other.

      Botnets were commonly used to form shared "party lines", to allow people to DCC CHAT their Eggdrop bots and communicate with people visiting from other channels, and other IRC networks.

      At first, these were used only for communication, people joined the botnets to chat with each other, there was no way to control other bots.

      At some point, some of the botnets got pretty large...

      Some of the botnets had a feature where a trusted "bot owner" or "bot master" as they were called, could be made "botnet admins" by bots they were peering with... allowing these botnet admins to command other hosts to do certain things on IRC

      Some botnets had member nodes run scripts that were able to do things like pingflood a user off IRC.

      This would be commonly used if some bad boy had taken over a popular channel. Ping flooding a user off IRC is undesired by the victim, but one time, it may have been used to encounter other hacking techniques the "victim" of the flood had been using to sabotage IRC channels.

      At some point, some IRC botnets started getting formed whose sole purpose was to flood.

      Eventually the term escaped IRC... other types of botnets started forming like Peer to Peer ones, smart ones that automatically added nodes (instead of two botnet admins deciding to interconnect), and botnets whose sole purpose was to accept commands from a central point.

      But the point is, the notion of a "Bot" and a "Botnet" has an origin that causes the term to not imply self replication.

    16. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by suomynonAyletamitlU · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So I'm not the only one who selects their definitions, am I? You. Are. An. Astroturfer.

      Sorry, but by that logic, wouldn't you--explicitly--be one as well? "You X, just like I do, so you're Y." ...

      And also a troll. Because frankly, if you want to actually make a point (and at this point you really aren't) the whole ad hominem thing is something to stay away from. Who employs him, even in theory, has so astoundingly little to do with whether or not his statements are accurate that nobody's going to listen once the argument gets to that point--including the person you're talking to.

    17. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Did you read the first sentence? Evidently the word manually doesn't mean what you think it does. (Manually is the opposite of automatically BTW) Here is the best definition from that page IMNSHO: The word BOTNET is short for the combination of the word robot and network . The term often applies to groups of computer systems that have had malicious software installed by worms, Trojan horses or other malicious software that allows the "botnet herder " or botnet's originator to control the .... In any case, yes, it absolutely has to be a network robot to be a bot, and those are by definition automatically spread, not manually propogated. That's the "bot" part of the term network robot.

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    18. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by node+3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Instead I propose the following definition:

      botnet: an automated and self propagating network of compromised machines.

      It's pretty clear the definition you're really trying to propose is:
      "botnet: a network of infected or compromised non-Linux machines."

      Just callin' it like I want to see it.

      Fixed your sig for you.

    19. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Servers don't roam the net downloading porn and music.

      You are here by excommunicated from the secret global geek alliance for revealing the truth behind one of our most useful excuses.

      And to any lay people listening in:
      Computers can in fact act on their own and illegally download music or collect an unseemly amount of lesbian teen videos. No one knows why and you son/husband is just as surprised as you are.

    20. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by node+3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Only an idiot would claim that servers being compromised because admins choose to send passwords over the internet in plain text proves anything about how secure the software running on those servers is.

      Unless it's a Windows web server. In that case, Administrator incompetence always proves how insecure Windows/IIS are.

    21. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Giometrix · · Score: 4, Funny

      servers don't roam the net -- the net roams them (google, etc.)

      Wait you forgot the "Soviet" part.

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    22. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Atlantis-Rising · · Score: 3, Informative

      Did you seen 'often' in the definition? 'Often' =/= 'always'.

      The definition you yourself presented suggests that a botnet can be formed of automatically spread programs but does not have to be.

      Moreover, there is no part of the term 'bot' that suggests it requires automatic propagation. I have an IRC bot running right now. It does not go out and spread itself. It is merely a mechanical/electrical agent which operates autonomously in response to higher-level commands from me- just like any robot.

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    23. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by laughingcoyote · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Only an idiot would claim that servers being compromised because admins choose to send passwords over the internet in plain text proves anything about how secure the software running on those servers is.

      Ah.....OK, I expect LOTS of such claims.

      Realistically, that depends. Part of secure design is accounting for potential user errors. That's why it's a good practice to have the password, when typed, appear as "********" rather than "heythisismypasswordanyonewatching". A good designer would know many users aren't going to look around for someone casually shoulder surfing while typing a password, so they take a step to prevent it.

      Of course, no software developer can fully account for a malfunctioning behind keyboard processing unit. Idiots are even more persistent than crackers in finding new ways to circumvent security measures. However, it can to some degree mitigate its effects, through making things as secure as possible and warning the user if (s)he is about to do something that might compromise it.

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    24. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      how droll.

      A real linux guy will do a subversion checkout of the bot and issue a

      make clean; make deps; make;

      Only n00bs use that Apt-get stuff...

    25. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You clearly need to look up the word robot ;-) In the mean time, since I know that a robot is an autonomic system I am aware that an network robot must necessarily be autonomous as well.

      And BTW, this article does not claim that Linux was hacked. It claims that peoples websites were hacked, and those websites happen to be hosted on Linux. Nothing to see here, no botnet, and no hacked Linux kernel. Just poor system administration allowing FTP password sniffing, etc. The whole thing is sensationalist bullshit.

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    26. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      In any case, yes, it absolutely has to be a network robot to be a bot, and those are by definition automatically spread, not manually propogated. That's the "bot" part of the term network robot.

      I am sorry, in this case you are wrong. The "bot" in botnet means that there are a lot of robots in a network doing some kind of coordinated task.

      So it is not the propagation method but rather how it works that is refered to when calling it botnet.

      Of course, the preferred way to set up a botnet is using some kind of automated approach since you want numbers for it to be effective and that is usually achieved easier with automated attacks like virii or trojans rather than old fashion sniffing and cracking.

    27. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually they don't automatically work together. That is why there is a command and control center. They propogate autonomously, then they do the bidding of the bot master. (I usually don't reply to ACs, but I don't want others getting more confused because what he says almost makes sense until you think about it.)

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    28. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by thejynxed · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There is the argument to be made that plain-text passwords should never be allowed to begin with, nevermind which platform, 3rd-party software, or hardware architecture that a system is comprised of.

      That being said, there could be just a wee tad bit of blame laid at the feet of the programmers of the software/hardware for allowing this to be possible in the first place.

      Hindsight is so useless :P

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    29. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Darkk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not entirely true about Linux server. When I build them I usually install Webmin which allows me to manage the server via web-gui. Yes I know if I were a real linux geek I'd do everything in command line but when there are times I can't remember the proper CLI sequence it's easier just use the web-gui.

      Recently I built a linux webserver with RAID 5 drives. I've read the docs on how to create a RAID 5 array but that took awhile. When I installed the raid 5 module into Webmin I did it in 5 mins. I've also set the iptables rules to only allow certian IPs to access the webmin and changed the ports.

      So there are options for those who want some kind of a GUI. CLI is also suspectable for those who don't pay attention to the modules being installed on the linux server, i.e. untrusted programs. etc.

    30. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Wuhao · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's the control which is automated, not the propagation. The idea is that if I root a hundred systems, and instead of OO, I put on a rootkit that forces them to participate in a network where I can issue a single command to my zombie army that forces them to DDoS you, I've got a botnet. If I have to ssh into each of them individually and manually instruct them to participate, I have a bunch of rooted systems.

    31. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      how can I tell when an idea is being promoted by the "MS astroturf team" and not by regular not-so-clueful reporters that might mistakenly use the wrong term?

      When you don't hear the black helicopters of the astoturf team, that means it's them, since they're designed so you won't hear them.

    32. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Lol leave it to a Linux fanboy to re-define botnet from "a network of robots" to "anything else so long as it can't include Linux".

      Ngix or whatever it's called is clearly a bot, any program that recieves input and performs a task fits that definition, and these servers are clearly networked together to operate a secondary botnet.

      What exactly would you call it, besides a botnet? It's not a worm, those are self-propigating, often used to carry other forms of malware. It's not a virus, those are intended to cause harm to or steal data from the host. It's not a trojan, though it could be, trojans provide unfettered access to the host machine, but are not designed to link up with other compromised machine. It doesn't fit the semi-malicioius categories of spyware and adware, so what is it?

      I'll tell you, it's a botnet.

      Sorry, Linux fanboys are so smug about Linux security it's hard not to throw it back at them when they are wrong. Still, it's 1 Linux botnet vs thousands of Windows botnets, so it's not exactly something to get cocky about.

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    33. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by hairyfeet · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why is it so hard for you to accept that Linux has a botnet. Does it suddenly make Linux shit? No, of course not. Operating Systems are EXTREMELY complicated pieces of software, written by thousands of people over long periods of time. There have always been and always will be bugs in software of that size and complexity. There are also these things called "users" that can add their own trouble, referred to us PC repair guys as PEBKAC.

      So be happy already, okay? The fact that it took this long for Linux to get its own botnet just means that your security is that much better than the other guys, alright? Even a retailer like myself that has had frequent arguments with FLOSSies about Linux and what retailers need to see it take off in retail has never said anything bad about Linux security. Hell, that is one of the main reasons I'd like to see the major deal breaker (like of hardware certification) fixed, because I think the lack of bugs would make Linux the superior choice for my customers that merely surf and watch vids. So there is no reason to get bent out of shape dude, so what if Linux finally has its own botnet? With something as complex as an OS flaws WILL be found, and boxes WILL be pwned, I don't care WHICH OS we are talking about. So be happy and have a cookie dude, because it ain't the end of the world.

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    34. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...so the MS astroturf team has decided to call it a "botnet".

      I'm curious--how can I tell when an idea is being promoted by the "MS astroturf team" and not by regular not-so-clueful reporters that might mistakenly use the wrong term?

      Dude, this is slashdot. That means that anything with a potentially pro-microsoft spin obviously came straight from MS PR... Erm, M$ PR. Shit, I think they're about to catch onto me too, I hope nobody saw that...

    35. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I was involved in investigating a compromised linux based web server. basically it all went down like this:

      They hired a stupid guy to install some adbanner to their site. His windows based computer was infected by several viruses. He downloaded the full site, at which point the virus inserted some malicous code in the websites code. He reuploaded the whole thing, and bang the website was infected. It was still infected, but Windows was the primary infection vector combined with the stupidity of the computer owner.

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    36. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by vginders · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ngix or whatever it's called is clearly a bot,

      It's called Nginx (http://nginx.net/) and it's a well known HTTP and proxy server.

      any program that recieves input and performs a task fits that definition

      Isn't that also some kind of definition of every networked software?

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    37. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Matz0r · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Manually compromising servers and installing a tool that causes all those servers to rendezvous with or receive commands from a central control point to execute instructions would make them a botnet.

      The key question would be: do the compromised servers also run a program that periodically polls a control station for commands, or does the script kiddie manually command individual compromised servers?

      I actually encountered this a few years ago, a Red Hat box had been carelessly placed on the internet with a poor dba username password combo. The attacker had not gained root access. But he did manage to install zombie software on the computer in /var/tmp, which consisted of a small web-server serving malicious code and a custom ssl-irc client configured to connect to the botnet owners irc server.

      Curious, I took a copy of the software he had installed before I wiped the server. I then proceeded to connect to his irc server using the credentials found in the zombie software. I ended up in an irc channel with the actual owner of the botnet sitting there. Because I kept my servers original irc-name he started prodding me with dcc-commands to find out the status of his returning zombie. After a while I responded and told him he had been discovered, we had a brief chat before he banned me from the irc-server. Seemed like a script kiddie, he used "LOL" in every sentence and lots of numbers, the net seemed to be run manually with some 30 "clients" in it. I gave his client IP to his ISP in Romania together with the logs, doubt anything came out of it though.

    38. Re:Ok, so I got the popcorn ready.... by Wuhao · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not to pressure one too much, but automaton is rooted in Greek, not Latin. :)

  2. Dang. by SilverHatHacker · · Score: 2, Funny

    Awkward...

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  3. Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's ready for the botnet!

    1. Re:Linux by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe the year of the Linux desktop is near, with the OS finally getting a botnet that doesn't require Wine to run. Take that, Apple!

    2. Re:Linux by elashish14 · · Score: 2, Funny

      In English please?

      It's the Year of the Linux Botnet!

      You know, because those things never worked well in WINE.

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  4. Stupid people use linux too by tetsukaze · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We can blame our hate pet OS for all of the internet evil out there, but we need to remember one important thing: people are almost always the week link in security. If someone knows what they are doing, it is very hard to penetrate a linux server... or a windows server. There will always be those that can break through the best security, but there is a lot of low hanging fruit and not just on the windows tree.

    1. Re:Stupid people use linux too by FlyingBishop · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, I would say the people to blame are those hosting providers who keep using ftp with weak usernames and weak passwords as the preferred way to access your website.

      There was a time when the client software was insufficient to the task, that time is long gone. WinSCP is mature and easy to use. No, browsers don't offer sftp:// support natively, but the browser is not very secure anyway. Hosting providers need to get their heads out of the sand and upgrade to secure authentication.

    2. Re:Stupid people use linux too by bjourne · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, it seems that stupid people actually *build* linux too!

    3. Re:Stupid people use linux too by bbernard · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Absolutely! There's plenty of stupid to go around.

      1. Where was the firewall admin to prevent external systems from connecting to these webservers over port 8080?
      2. Why did the admins use insecure tools or insecure systems to allow their credentials to be sniffed?
      3. Where was the IDS/IPS to notice the sudden change in traffic?
      4. Where was the load balancer/reverse proxy to intecept this junk?
      5. Where was the routine review of logs to notice the dynamic DNS updates from computers with (presumably) static DNS entries somewhere?
      6. Where was the periodic pen/vulnerability test against these systems?

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    4. Re:Stupid people use linux too by mcrbids · · Score: 4, Insightful

      1. Where was the firewall admin to prevent external systems from connecting to these webservers over port 8080?
      2. Why did the admins use insecure tools or insecure systems to allow their credentials to be sniffed?
      3. Where was the IDS/IPS to notice the sudden change in traffic?
      4. Where was the load balancer/reverse proxy to intecept this junk?
      5. Where was the routine review of logs to notice the dynamic DNS updates from computers with (presumably) static DNS entries somewhere?
      6. Where was the periodic pen/vulnerability test against these systems?

      ...

      7) Where was the funding to pay for 1 through 6?

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  5. And here it comes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does this mean Linux finally has reached a point of user friendliness equal to Windows?

    1. Re:And here it comes by swilly · · Score: 4, Funny

      Unfortunately not. It appears that the servers were manually hacked, which is far less user friendly than the automated hacks that Windows makes so very easy.

      Linux still has a ways to go, I'm afraid.

  6. What's new here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What's so special about this one that we haven't seen in the last 5 years? Linux or BSD systems have been durned into rogue IRC servers (for C&C purposes) for zombies all the time.

    Whether sweeps for vulnerable AWStats installations, badly configured PHP installations or archaic PHPBB installs, webservers are hammered with automated exploits all day. Maybe "DataCha0s 2.0" rings a bell for some.

  7. Missing in the summary by gmuslera · · Score: 3, Informative

    "With about 100 nodes". The average windows botnet (at least the one that make into the news) have from hundreds of thousands to millons of nodes. Not sure how "automatic" was the creation of this botnet, or how much at risk are generic linux users. Considering how are installed some and how careful are some admins about "security", is not amazing that a few out there could be rooted.

    In fact, if those servers already had apache, and some old vulnerable web application that enables somewhat transfer and execute binaries, in no recently patched kernels 2.4+ there are ways to escalate priviledges and get root to install what is needed. But probably normal users using modern distributions or admins caring a little about security are safe.

    1. Re:Missing in the summary by eln · · Score: 3, Interesting

      A Windows machine being run by someone who cares about security and updates it regularly won't end up in a botnet either, so I'm not sure what your point is.

    2. Re:Missing in the summary by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      At the moment that may be true, but that has certainly not been the case many times before.

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      "linux is just DOS with a UNIX like syntax" -- Galactic Dominator (944134)
    3. Re:Missing in the summary by rohan972 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "With about 100 nodes". The average windows botnet (at least the one that make into the news) have from hundreds of thousands to millons of nodes.

      That's irrelevant. A linux botnet would be so much more productive than a windows botnet that you don't need nearly as many nodes.<\straightface>

    4. Re:Missing in the summary by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Really, this is a pretty trivial "jump" from the normal way of things.

      You've got manually installed rootkits, and most of them have C&C tools. How is this much different, other than optimizing the C&C mechanisms? There's nothing here to suggest this is anything "new": the mechanisms, whatever used, still appear to be tightly constrained to "manual rootboxing" - a time consuming process compared to a "real" automated botnet.

      All evidence points to this being more of someone's "pet" botnet than it does any sort of improvement on the malware concept. Same old thing, different implementation. Let me know when there's a polymorphic, multi-OS botnet with a non-distributed model and pluggable payload and vector - which uses traffic heuristics to hide its traffic on a network and runs "quiet" (compared to common botnets/worms). Then I'll start being concerned.

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    5. Re:Missing in the summary by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's been true since after 2000.

      Granted there have been some remote code execution exploits, but the number of those is miniscule compared to someone with a poorly configured box clicking something they shouldn't have clicked, and then saying "yes" when the thing they shouldn't have clicked wanted to install something they shouldn't have installed.

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      Security is mostly a superstition... Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. - Helen Keller
  8. Reporters Fail by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Informative

    The only part of this article that is news is the part that is incorrect. Botnets of Windows machines often have compromised Linux servers working as a control channel or update channel. It is not at all unusual. What would be unusual would be for a worm or virus to actually compromise Linux machines in an automated fashion and make them bots. That does not seem to be what has happened here as the Linux systems seem to have been manually hacked in a normal, directed attack.

    Basicaly, nothing new or newsworthy happened here, except someone mistakenly referred to the compromised Linux servers as bots.

    1. Re:Reporters Fail by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, you are assuming that calling a machine a bot is dependent on the fact it was infected.

      Not really. Calling a machine a bot or zombie is generally an indication that they are the regular "peon" part of a botnet. I mean technically the control channel and update channel and the terminals machines the operator is using are part of the botnet. They just are not generally referred to as bots because they are part of the system doing the controlling instead of being the end systems used to launch attacks.

      My main point was, the summary and title here led readers who use the specific terms one way to think that is what was happening. The comments from researchers led people to think that. That is why this was news. It's not news to discover Linux systems hacked by hand are being used to control Windows bots, because that happens all the time and is, perhaps, the most common kind of botnet.

    2. Re:Reporters Fail by Aladrin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      'Botnet' has never meant 'auto-infected' and if they assumed that, they were careless. The summary makes no attempt to fool them into thinking anything other than the facts.

      Besides which, at this point, we don't -know- how it spreads. We just know that it exists... Which to me, is news.

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      "If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you." - DM
    3. Re:Reporters Fail by c6gunner · · Score: 2, Informative

      We just know that it exists... Which to me, is news.

      It shouldn't be. Or, at least the general concept shouldn't be. The original IRC bots were written to run on *nix, because they were meant to be used for channel control/moderation, and so needed to run on an always-on server. Which usually meant a shell account on a linux or BSD machine. Small channels only employed one bot, but larger ones used several working in tandem. So, really, the earliest bot-nets were all *nix based - they just weren't malicious.

    4. Re:Reporters Fail by burnin1965 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is not at all unusual. What would be unusual would be for a worm or virus to actually compromise Linux machines in an automated fashion and make them bots.

      There is a continuous flood of SSH brute force attacks on any *nix machine connected to the internet. All one has to do is monitor their log files for verification.

      They are not even sophisticated attacks, they are attempting to login using lame passwords, i.e. after watching the attacks for awhile I set up a box to see what they were doing and created a user name test with the password test based on the fact I could see them using test as one of the users for the attack and suspecting it was a dumb password attack.

      It wasn't long before the system was "compromised" and likely recorded on the other end as a successful attack. Several hours later the account was again accessed and various applications downloaded and executed as the test user. One of these applications connected to the EFNET IRC network and joined a channel.

      Using another system I connected to the IRC network in way I thought would be inconspicuous and monitored what was happening. Sure enough there were two individuals chatting it up in the channel and sending commands to hundreds of compromised systems.

      While reviewing the various compromised systems I noted that they were all *nix machines of one type or another. This was a few years back so I believe you are correct in stating that this is nothing new. What would have been new is if a botnet like this was discovered to be from a real hack and not some lame password login scan.

      I don't have a problem with it being called a linux botnet, but until they can come up with an explanation for the means by which the systems were compromised, other than the likely lame password attacks, its not really news.

    5. Re:Reporters Fail by UnderLoK · · Score: 2, Informative

      100% agree man, I was at ThePlanet and Rackshack and Rackspace before that and at each one of those hosts it was a constant to have tons of boxes on your network brute forcing because they had already been rooted. Granted this wasn't just brute force, they would often exploit holes in SSH, Apache (being the most common I would say), and similar services. I find this article suspect because I know full well these boxes (mine too at one point) were part of choreographed DOS attacks perptrated by an individual. This was in 2000 or 2001 and until I quit running boxes in those locations in 2005 I continued to see it happen.

    6. Re:Reporters Fail by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 2, Interesting

      'Botnet' has never meant 'auto-infected' and if they assumed that, they were careless.

      No, botnet means a network of computers auto controlled, but in general when you describe a botnet, especially referring to the OS, you refer to the OS of the bots, which make up the majority, not the OS of the select few control channel systems.

      The summary makes no attempt to fool them into thinking anything other than the facts.

      The title was, "First Botnet of Linux Web Servers Discovered". It didn't say first botnet of Windows machines controlled by ten Linux Webservers. It isn't the first botnet that includes Linux Web servers, those are actually quite common. Thus the average person who knows what they're talking about assumes it is the regular bots which must be running Linux, since otherwise the title makes no sense. You don't think that is misleading?

      Besides which, at this point, we don't -know- how it spreads. We just know that it exists... Which to me, is news.

      Well, no we don't know for sure, but we do know what is likely. Given that only a few servers have been hacked and given the nature of the attempt, it seems to be targeting server operators who attempt to FTP files and steal passwords, it is probably just dumb admins who don't verify credentials and who use root for FTP operations. In past servers have been compromised by a number of web server exploits as well. The only thing that differentiates this botnet from any other is that they networked the control channel to load balance the phishing server. Aside from that, nothing about this botnet is even out of the ordinary. To call it the first botnet of Linux servers is disingenuous by every definition of a botnet that doesn't count multiple Linux Web servers controlling a bunch of Windows boxes but does include multiple Linux Web servers that control a bunch of Windows boxes, but randomly pass traffic to each other to balance the incoming connections.

  9. stolen root credential by pikine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article speculated that, since the iframe code was injected to legitimate webpages using stolen FTP credentials, it may be that a few "root" credentials are obtained the same way. FTP credentials can be stolen by malware running on the client computer, for example a computer an admin uses to control the server, from well-known FTP client software.

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  10. Doesn't matter who's hosting by KDingo · · Score: 3, Informative

    If your customers put up vulnerable software on your shared, dedicated, or virtual hosting service and they don't update it or you don't detect it, someone's going to find it and exploit it.

    Had something similar happen to my me. If you're monitoring server load, a webserver sending spam will definitely raise an alarm. As for services on odd ports, block everything except the real ports. Blocking outgoing traffic on IRC ports helps too in minimizing damage. The script kids are already making use of the recent Linux local root exploit (wunderbar_emporium) so make sure you do some yum updates!

  11. nginx? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    nginx, so that's what the worm is called? I'd better check my company's webservers so they aren't running this evil hacker malware.

    Oh my... all of them had been infected. No worries though, I managed to clean them all up. A good day's work well done.

  12. You could be right by DrJimbo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Actually, you might be correct. FTFA:

    It's unclear exactly how the servers have become infected. Sinegubko speculates they belong to careless administrators who allowed their root passwords to be sniffed.

    ... With about 100 nodes, the network is relatively small, making it unclear exactly what the attackers' intentions are.

    If Sinegubko is right and the attack vector was sniffed passwords, then it is likely that those passwords got sniffed by an existing Windows Botnet.

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    -- Anais Nin
    1. Re:You could be right by corychristison · · Score: 3, Informative

      Absolutely. It also mentions that they were FTP passwords. FTP is all in cleartext, no encryption or obfuscation.

      There is SFTP. But I don't know many providers that offer it. I avoid FTP in all cases and use SSH and SSHFS to talk to and transfer files to and from my servers.

      I also use Linux on my home machines (including my laptop).

    2. Re:You could be right by asdf7890 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There is SFTP. But I don't know many providers that offer it. I avoid FTP in all cases and use SSH and SSHFS to talk to and transfer files to and from my servers.

      I also use Linux on my home machines (including my laptop).

      SSHFS will most likely be using SFTP, or SCP. While you could do the work that SSHFS does with clever redirection of stdin and stdout it would be more complex and error prone than just using SFTP or SCP which are both usually implemented as subsystems of SSH and are provided by many SSH servers unless explicitly turned off (so if your provider gives you SSH access, that chances you have SFTP and SCP access too are high).

  13. Stop bickering and solve the problem by Temujin_12 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Rather than getting consumed in an OS holy-war, perhaps we should focus on how exactly these systems were compromised and how to detect whether your server has been compromised. Linux servers being compromised is not a new thing. If you run old-enough libraries and software on them or configure things improperly, they'll eventually be compromised.

    Does anyone know if a particular vulnerability was used to gain access to systems?

    Does anyone know how to detect whether your system is compromised in this manner (is doing "ps -aux nginx" simple enough to detect it)?

    Spare everyone the OS holy-war and fanboism and let's figure out what the problem is, how to detect it, and what to do to fix it.

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    1. Re:Stop bickering and solve the problem by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Does anyone know if a particular vulnerability was used to gain access to systems?"

      Yes, they exploited the most common vulnerability, the idiotic system administrator ;-)

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      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
  14. packagement mgmt and repos play a small role here by drougie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's nice to be able to apt-get yourself the latest stable copy of apache2 and php5 and mysql and postfix humming with just a command or two, also nice to be able to apt-get upgrade them after you apt-got updated. Those who maintain, clean and contribute to the large public repositories that apt and yum and rpm and pkg_add, good people and they generally do a bang up job for 99% of the Linux and UNIX and UNIX-like folks. However, when you maintain servers which are not completely hidden behind a nat with these programs for years and once in a blue moon compile something you downloaded in a gzipped tar, you put yourself on admin autopilot and that can bite you in the ass.

    Give you one example: I installed RoundCube, the most badass webmail client there will ever be, ever, with apt (the first time). Ran it for a while without incident. Had my system on weekly cron apt updates so I figured I was safe. Eventually I discover someone made it onto my system and put a malware installing js line in my web pages. Looking through the guy's bash history I discovered they got in through a RoundCube vulnerability. I checked out RoundCube's site, something I should have done first thing but did not, and it turns out their stable version was much newer than what apt realized and that this vulnerability would not have been on my system about five months ago had I downloaded straight from their site and stayed on the ball with their support resources which are things that are less necessary when you just let apt-get rip.

    Bottom line, apt-get update/upgrading would not patch a glaring vulnerability in software I found with apt originally with the default Debian sources.list and I doubt it would have on most other distros' package management systems. It wasn't RoundCube's fault, the patched release was their Stable build for a long time but I was left wide open to anyone who went on a rootkit site and googled for roundcube hosts and I got nailed. Learned my lesson and I don't fault the repository maintainers for being behind the ball a bit on less popular software in their enormous archives but if you ask me software should not be available on the default repositories for Linux variants that the maintainers are not confident that they can keep up to date or don't have some kind of way to be quickly and effectively notified by the authors/vendors in the event of a critical upgrade being available and to put it live right quick. Put it on the people who want to install such software themselves -- if they can make it past that hump I'd say their odds of running the software safely will be substantially higher than Joe Yum. And spreading awareness of cvs/svn would be nice too.

    Can't believe I just admitted I got compromised.

  15. Re:Want to bet on how the servers were taken over? by corychristison · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, the article says that FTP passwords were used. Meaning they were probably sniffed either on FTP Users personal computer, or over the wire somewhere between the user and the server on one of the hops, which could be dangerous.

    Moral of the story, use SSH!

  16. Re:packagement mgmt and repos play a small role he by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can't believe I just admitted I got compromised.

    Much better than the fanbois who have tried everything under the sun to defend their pet project against the evil meanies who don't have a problem admitting that every system has weaknesses.

  17. Feeling secure disables the brain by wzzzzrd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    More than once I heard "I just use Linux, so I'm gonna have a secure system anyway". Yes, Linux is more secure by design than windows, but this attitude makes ppl dumb and lazy.

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    1. Re:Feeling secure disables the brain by Thundersnatch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, Linux is more secure by design than windows, but this attitude makes ppl dumb and lazy.

      Linux is most definitely no more secure by design than Windows NT. It is actually far worse in many areas from a design perspective.

      Linux is usually more secure as Implemented and deployed than Windows. But this has far more to do with the expertise of the sysadmins than the design of Linux. Microsoft.com seems to stay online despite running on beta versions of the MSFT suite.

  18. This has been happening for a LONG time... by mcrbids · · Score: 4, Informative

    Back around 2001, I found a "botnet" comprising a perl script that ran on websites. Because it ran as a child of Apache, it showed up as "http" in ps. It would log into an IRC server, and wait for commands which appeared to be little more than arbitrary bash commands that were shelled out.

    Bone-headedly simple. Ran well on any unix website host running perl scripts, installed via an insecure formmail.pl script. I penetrated the IRC network and watched for a few hours while the operator attacked a few hosts. There were some 50 hosts or so. Then I killed the script and updated all copies of formmail.pl hosted on the server...

    Is this new news?

    What's next? "Hammers can be used to smack things, even if they aren't nails." !?!?!

    Truth is this: no operating system is 100% secure. But this "botnet" isn't necessarily even a compromise of the Operating System! Port 8080 is above 1024, so non-root controlled processes can open sockets there. This may be nothing more than something like the perl script I mentioned and having nothing to do with the Operating System in question. The server wasn't compromised, just a bad script was running that had to be deleted, then killed with an Apache restart.

    Given the parameters I just mentioned, there isn't an Operating System around that would stop this from happening. It's just that the "Mom's basement" fanbois get all riled up because it's gospel that Linux is immune to $allBadThings.

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  19. Re:packagement mgmt and repos play a small role he by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I can't imagine how you came to the conclusion that the fault was with *apt* of all things.. did you think it works by magic? Blame the Debian "It's not moldy, so it's not for us" maintainers instead, or even yourself for using a distribution known to ship ancient software no longer supported by upstream.

  20. Re:packagement mgmt and repos play a small role he by drougie · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Firstly, it's my fault for running a webmail client I got from browsing through apt-cache, installed with apt-get and configured mostly with dpkg-reconfigure instead of grabbing the official current build and reading the readme and man pages and faq, and doing this on a somewhat important machine. Did the same thing with Gallery and PHPNuke several years ago. Even webmin in my reckless and stupid experimental days. That's painting a target on yourself to get malware on your sites and start running irc bots or worse. Have you looked at some of these rootkit sites? Disturbing how finding and proliferating vulnerabilities in Linux, not just MS, is a full-time hobby/living for so many people. Then you install something like snort from apt-get thinking Yeah I'm on top of my security now, but you have no idea that you're using a six month old release of software with a demo package of ancient rules when it needs heavy configuration that dpkg doesn't handle and fresh rules with a subscription and a key in the right place to be effective.

    That said, yeah, Debian's reputation for waiting a ... conservative amount of time to make new releases of various software available on their repositories, whether it's gimp or gaim or kde or nmap, maybe I assumed that that behavior of deliberately (?) waiting a little while longer than the rest of the world to catch up to the developers' latest releases for the sake of not releasing anything that may contribute to snafus, that Debian's actually doing what's best for me. Maybe my roundcube adventure was anomalous. Regardless, I love Debian, I certainly love apt (so much I just tried Debian KFreeBSD to hang onto apt). By naming the package management systems of the other distros/OSs I was trying to suggest another point that Linux is becoming too easy. Lower learning curve, more people who may make my mistake and surrender their machines to China, Russia and 4chan by installing the wrong package.

    It would be great if apt had svn/cvs behavior embedded into it to somehow investigate whether or not everything on your system is up to date by logging not just onto Debian's repositories but to servers maintained by developers. Can't expect apt to then install the next version but just to let me know what it found so I could deal with it myself. Maybe such a thing already exists -- guess I should apt-cache search it. :P

  21. Re:Well *somebody's* got to say it ... by Sulphur · · Score: 2, Funny

    A beowolf cluster run by a beowolf klutz

  22. Re:packagement mgmt and repos play a small role he by dbcad7 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That Debian runs older stable software, does not stop them from installed patched versions of software when it comes to security. You still get security updates in stable.. Not pointing fingers or anything.. but if I do a search for roundcube in debian stable I don't find anything.. testing, unstable, and experimental yes.. but stable no.. So perhaps the whole idea of running the creaky old software makes sense.

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  23. Use the source, Luke by petrus4 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Let this be a lesson to everyone who reads the article. Security is not something that happens by accident.

    I've said for a long time that binary packaging is, fundamentally, a Hell-spawned abomination masquerading as a convenience; incidents like this only prove the point.

    Compile yourself a minimalistic base system, a la Hardened Linux From Scratch.

    Then get the absolute minimum number of packages you need for a working system, such that you've got some chance of keeping them updated. Firefox for web browsing, maybe. A single media player; VLC or Xine. Vim/Emacs as an editor. OpenOffice.org if you need that. Whatever servers you need, but keep that list small. A firewall, which is hopefully obvious.

    Use a minimal window manager which doesn't have a dep list as long as your arm, as well. I use Ratpoison. Do not laugh until you've tried it. It is very, very fast, and resource consumption is virtually nil. It's basically an X version of GNU Screen.

    Once you've got this small list of packages, take full, ruthless, practical advantage of the fact that your system is open source. Subscribe to the announce or bug related mailing lists for the apps you've got, and keep local virgin tarballs. This way, whenever there is a bug or potential exploit, and the patch gets posted within a few minutes or hours, you can get it the moment it goes to CVS, patch your own source tarball, and recompile. The same goes for the kernel itself.

    You won't be vulnerable to exploits, because you'll get the solutions to them as they are implemented, and you're also far less likely to end up with a compromised machine as a result.

    Brainless Windows refugees, who will sneer at me, and/or complain about how this isn't, "user friendly," don't even bother. This post isn't for you. We already know that you've committed yourselves to being servile, unthinking sheep, and you are therefore invited to accept the consequences of your (lack of) actions in that regard.