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Russia's New Official Holiday — Programmer's Day

Glyn Moody writes "Russia's president, Dmitry Medvedev, has decreed a new holiday for his country: Programmer's Day. Appropriately enough, it will be celebrated on the 256th day of the year: September 13th (September 12th for a leap year). Do programmers deserve their own holiday ahead of other professions? Should the rest of the world follow suit?"

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  1. It is usually celebrated by... by John+Guilt · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...setting up a bot-net to send 20 phishing e-cards each to everyone _not_ a programmer.

    1. Re:It is usually celebrated by... by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yeah, and we all know that Tetris didn't do anything other than create an entire new market for games and changed the face of gaming by introducing portable gaming as a real means of gaming. Without Tetris we wouldn't have the DS or PSP.

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  2. In Soviet Russia, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Programming Celebrates You!

  3. Humm .. by PIBM · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would have had it on the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 8th, 16th, 32th, 64th, 128th and 256th day of the year, if I was to choose ;)

    1. Re:Humm .. by imtheguru · · Score: 4, Funny

      32th?

      Yes, Thirty-tooth.

      Influenced by the dental profession.

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    2. Re:Humm .. by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Good thing you skipped the 0th day. I'd be expect the conversations with the folks in HR would be less than productive.

      Is there ever any other kind of conversation with the folks in HR?

  4. Wetware Not Software by mindbrane · · Score: 4, Insightful
    In Russia the programmers program you!

    I think, in what is fast becoming a fascist state of one part gangsterism and one part corporatism, the programmers they're talking about aren't the programmers you're thinking about.

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  5. Re:In honor of Programmer's Day by CRCulver · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's ironic you make that joke, since one of the first reforms the Bolsheviks made during the October Revolution was reducing the working day to 8 hours.

  6. Re:Seems odd... by Anonymous+Cowar · · Score: 4, Funny

    because surgeons or police officers are less likely to create a website on a whim to promote a holiday.

  7. Oldest Profession by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, I don't know about the rest of you, but the "worlds oldest profession" probably needs its own holiday too.

    It is a holiday that has been a long time in coming.

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    1. Re:Oldest Profession by jonbryce · · Score: 4, Funny

      Isn't that the 14th of February?

  8. Re:At least... by sayfawa · · Score: 5, Informative

    I really wish I could laugh at your ignorance. Patriot Day started well before Obama came along.

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  9. Re:At least... by Boronx · · Score: 5, Interesting

    By calling it "national service" day, rather than "terrorists kicked our ass and now we have to act like idiots" day, we take the day back in some small way.

  10. hold your horses by slonik · · Score: 5, Informative

    In Russia a "professional holiday" is NOT a real holiday and it is NOT a day off. It is a mere sign of appreciation for a certain professional activity. You might hear nice words about your buddies on TV and Radio and you have one more reason to have some drinks that day. Most of "important" professions in Russia have their professional days -- from teachers, doctors all way to police and steel-mill workers. It is no surprise whatsoever that IT workers (aka programmers) get their professional day too.

  11. Re:At least... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I really wish I could laugh at your ignorance. Patriot Day started well before Obama came along.

    YOU LIE!!!!

  12. Re:In honor of Programmer's Day by ivucica · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Communism is not perfect, and I like free market economy. But some things need to be said "NO" to.

    You: "I want to work for 10 hours!"

    Boss: "Oh, everyone! He can work for 10 hours, that means you can work for 10 hours!"

    or:

    Boss: "Look, that Other Company makes employees work 12 hours a day! That means we can do that too!"

    Worker: "But, that's not fair..."

    Boss: "Law doesn't agree!"

    Some things need to be mandated through legislation. Is maximum work hours something to be mandated? I don't know, it depends on situation. If bosses don't abuse their power, then sure, sometimes I'd love to be able to work extended hours. But if you live in 19th century and you're a coal miner or a factory worker...

    Would you allow child labor?

  13. Re:In honor of Programmer's Day by Hurricane78 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well, it's not all black and white here. The idea was to eliminate worker extortion. A concept you might know from not being able to quit when the working condition / pay ration becomes unbearable.
    Their attempt obviously failed. But the spirit was undoubtedly a good one. (As it usually is.)

    Their main faults were to think that "everyone is equal", while some still were "more equal" than others. Thereby again creating the old hierarchy, or "boss paradise".
    (Originally, those "more equal" were just there to manage the transition, and then dissolve. Which for reasons of basic human behavior never happened.)
    We must accept, that humans first think of themselves. Even when we give, we do so, because it feels good to us, and because we follow our goals. If your goal is to make someone else big, and that makes you happy, you still do it for yourself. So this does not mean it is bad. And as for being egoistic, being the opposite of altruistic sacrifice, I can just quote someone I do not like very much, but who is right:
    “It stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there’s someone collecting sacrificial offerings. Where there’s service, there's someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters. And intends to be the master.” — Ayn Rand

    So my solution (yes, I thought about this quite a bit) is very simple: In such a new "company", everyone can work for multiple people and let multiple people work for him. So it's not a hierarchy anymore, but a free graph. Which means that not only a boss can prefer one of his employees, but an employee can prefer one of his bosses. Or in proper non-biased terms: A service provider and a money provider, or two service providers, (two money providers would be strange, but thinkable), have equal freedoms. If one of your "bosses" offers a crappy deal, you can say no, and take a better one. Just as he can take a better one than you. You don't have to have any long-term contracts (although you can). You can simply work on a project basis.
    This would not have been possible, two decades ago. But with computers being ubiquitous, the whole contract-, "self-employment"- and tax management, can be automated. Even as a service.
    I'd try that. Even if just to see the flaws, and fix them.

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  14. Programming IS The Oldest Profession by Chemisor · · Score: 5, Funny

    "God performed surgery when he removed Adam's rib, so my profession is indeed the oldest" said the doctor. "But before that God performed feats of engineering to create the Earth from void and chaos, so my profession must be the oldest" countered the engineer. The programmer looked at them contemptuously and replied: "gee, where do you think void and chaos came from?"

  15. Re:Yes. by igny · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There are teachers', doctors' mathematicians' days in Russia. I am not sure about other but perhaps they exist too. A relevant story.

    A Russian grandpa is asked how often he drinks vodka. He replies "Not very often, only when it is a holiday or after a sauna. For example what holiday is it today?" It appeared that no one could recall any holiday today. The grandpa ponders "Hmm sounds like a good day to go to a sauna"

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