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iPhone 3.1 Update Disables Tethering
jole writes "The newest iPhone 3.1 update intentionally removed tethering functionality from all phones operating in networks that are not Apple partners. This is not limited to hacked or jailbroken phones, but also includes expensive 'officially supported' factory-unlocked phones. To make the problem worse, Apple has made it impossible to downgrade back to a working 3.0 version for iPhone 3GS phones."
This is why I refuse to buy any Apple related products.
Was this feature was purchased with the phone? I see a class action looming if so. Manufacturers do not hold the right to downgrade product after purchase.
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Google's android will win out. MS locks you into crap expensive software, while Mac locks you into crappy expensive networks.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
I was under the impression, perhaps wrongly, that apple was locking their phones basebands. That is the locking is occuring in the cell-phone part of the phone which has it's very own firmware and DSP not the main "operating system" CPU part of the phone. So this tethering denial may be just a side effect of the well known baseband locking that occurs when they lock the cell phone to a carrier class. The iphone Dev team has never cracked the Cell phone firmware.
I think it might be "pre"-mature to say the pre is completely open source. The CPU part of the phone might be, but does that assure that they won't permenantly lock the carrier class? I could imagine that some service providers might want Palm to do just that in return for subsidizing the phone.
We shall see. Right now there's not enough Pre phones out there for the main market let alone a gray market of re-banded phones to be siginficant. Apple did not start locking the phones this way till the 3G. the 2G phones supposedly, it is said, can't be locked that way. But I honestly don't know enough to argue the matter, I'm just repeating what i've gleaned on the iphone-dev team blogs.
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Palms $70/month plan includes unlimited data/texting/mobile-mobile(Any network) calls and 450minutes for landlines/business lines.
To get an equivalent plan on the iphone would cost near $120/month, the difference being $50/month or $600/year.
The employee referral plan, which the VP of Sprint has suggested anyone interested use (he even gave his email publicly for the referral form) is $60/month and includes a few features the $70/mo plan doesn't, I believe. Somehow the taxes are a lot lower than on my previous plans, too. I pay $63/month after taxes and fees.
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It is actually worse than this for 3.0 lovers. Apple is refusing to sign any more firmware images pre-3.1. This means if you have a problem and need to restore, you WILL be upgraded to 3.1, even if you just want to restore your 3.0. There is (as of yet, and speaking to the dev team maybe forever) no solution around this problem. You only hope would be to have grabbed your signing keys prior to the 3.1 release(or just keeping a 3.0 image around downloaded within itunes), which is something beyond most of the population.
Unfortunately, the 3.1 update also removes any ability of an unlock because they upgrade the baseband as well. I use the term upgrade loosely because they removed most of the minicom commands the baseband will accept to limit their exposure to exploits.
That being said I'm happy with my iPhone because I'm in the small minority of people who jailbreak their phones and don't hit update until a dev team member has a solution for me to upgrade without losing the functionality I've come to enjoy.
It's easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them.
Weird. Tethering is on my 3.1 phone. Not sure whats happening to you folks.
General menu -> Netowork ->Tethering -> On.
About says:
Network: YES OPTUS (australian carrier)
Line: Virgin Mobile
Version: 3.1 (7C144)
I'm on the developer program so maybe developers get extra goodies?
Excuse the Unicode crap in my posts. That's an apostrophe, and slashdot is busted.
I use my iphone with T-mobile. for 1000 minutes it's $39. that's not unlimited, but I don't use that many minutes so for me it is. My data plan is $6.25 a week. I say week and not month because T-mobile lets you switch the data plan on and off at will without any impact on your plan (no new 2-year agreement). SO I only switch it on when I travel a few times a year. The rest of the time I just use WiFi for the internet. In my home town I really don't need to have google so bad that I can't just walk to a coffee shop or something to use the iphone. But on travel (especially in the car or public transit, or airport, or whatever you do need the web on the go sometimes for maps, car rentals, hotel reservations, dinner plannning, staying connected with the office).
So you might say, well yeah but sprint is unlimited and has an always on data plan. And I reply yes but I have an iphone which, presently at least, is unarguably more supported in terms of usability (apps and connectivity to easy itunes management and perifrials), has a high resale value, and uses a carrier with better coverage (including sim card conveneince for international travel).
FOr my usage pattern, which may not be yours, t-moble is by far the better deal cost wise as well.
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As the owner of a carrier-neutral iPhone (I actually paid the full amount in Belgium for a phone without strings attached), I use a "hacked" profile. It's actually perfectly legal for me to do so, as I pay my carrier for "full" data bundle, including tethering support. In this specific case, tethering is still enabled after the 3.1 update. So either Apple makes an exception for simlock-free phones, or my profile slipped through the checks. Any ideas?
I am not a Apple fan, but I gotta say if Apple came up with 500Gig iPod Touch, with bluetooth, camera, and speaker -- and it's jail breakable. I would buy it in a sec. It's one of those thing you gotta have it...
Even veals have more autonomy!
The major difference is due to the fact that it's an M$ product it's APIs aren't open
Is that so?
they're buggy and overall the devices run slower and are less customizable.
Care to share an example? Sounds like you have plenty... or are you just recycling wrong, out-of-date groupthink?
Not the GP, but I have two (both on Sprint)
A) Moto Q9c. I thought this was the worst POS phone I ever put my hands on, with slow speeds, lockups, and misfeatures, so I stupidly reupped and got
B) Palm Pro (Treo 850e). I was wrong. This makes the Q9c look like a miracle of modern fucking engineering. All the problems of the Q9c, and more, including the fact that some genius decided a phone doesn't need a fucking power button, so you have to open the batter compartment and hard reset whenever WinMo decides to shit itself, which it does... often... at the worst possible times...
Seeking promotion so you can afford a 1200$ yearly phone bill is kind of crazy.
Also, i read your sig link "VICTIMS OF GOVERNMENT - Asthma Patients Left Gasping for Air - consumeraffairs.com/news04/2009/09/asthma_hfa05.html"
I think that article should be renamed to "VICTIMS OF CORPORATE GREED". From the article, the government ban on CFCs is driven by citizens to preseve the environment. The even bigger problem is her insurance company turning her down on something she worked so hard to prepare for. Now she can't do anything, jump ship to another insurance company? Hope they accept pre-existing conditions (not likely).
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Rubbish. I don't know what you're doing wrong, but I use an AT&T-branded Blackberry 8310 with my T-mobile account. T-mobile doesn't have a 8310, so I can assure you that T-mobile not only allows "unsigned clients" (whatever the fuck that means; unlocked? different vendor-id?), but their telephone support helped me do it.
WebKit based browser? Capacitive touchscreen? Slick media player? Centralized app distribution(Google doesn't fucking count)?
No? No sale.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
Actually I remember reading a sexual study done in the late 80s/early 90s of all different types of sexuality, and one of the things that stuck in my head (I'll take "useless shit" for $200 Alex) is that a full 20-30% of homosexuals have NEVER engaged in anal sex, only having oral, while at the same time nearly the exact same number of lesbians said they NEVER had oral sex, preferring fingers or the scissor maneuver.
Now while they never explained the why that was, or the reasoning behind it, it did say that those gays that didn't do anal didn't want anal either giving or receiving, just as the lesbians didn't want oral giving or receiving. So who knows why that is, but according to the study I read (It may have been one of Shere Hite's studies, I can't remember) those numbers were pretty consistent. Just one of those completely stupid pointless bits of info that gets stuck in one's head, like the fact that the female G-Spot has tissue similar to the male prostate. It is amazing how much completely pointless knowledge one can get stuck in one's head, yet I still have trouble remembering what I needed at the grocery store.
Of course if I ever get on Jeopardy! and they have a "completely useless sexual trivia" column I will kick major ass!
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.