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Feds Ask IT Execs To Throw Away Cellphones After Visiting China

sholto writes "US intelligence agencies are advising top US IT executives to weigh their laptops before and after visiting China as one of many precautions against corporate espionage. Symantec Chief Technology Officer Mark Bregman said he was also advised to buy a new cellphone for each visit and to throw it away after leaving. Bregman said he kept a separate MacBook Air for use in China, which he re-images on returning, but claimed he didn't subscribe to the strictest policies. 'Bregman said the US was also concerned about its companies employing Chinese coders, particularly in security.'"

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  1. huh by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 4, Funny

    how much does data weigh? I'm sure the 1's are heavier than the 0's....

    1. Re:huh by gzipped_tar · · Score: 2, Funny

      It is reported by the uptime command (system "load"). When the CPU is busy its weight increases; when you turn it off it weighs exactly zero. That's why they ask you to turn off your laptop when your airplane is taking off: to save oil by reducing weight ;)

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    2. Re:huh by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, but only the 1's contain data. The 0's are empty.

    3. Re:huh by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you two keep arguing about 1s and 0s my monitor will fall through the desk. Type some spaces quick.

    4. Re:huh by Telecommando · · Score: 2, Funny

      You young punks are lucky.

      In my day we didn't have ones and zeros, we had to use l's and O's and we were damn luck to have them.

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    5. Re:huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah you.

    6. Re:huh by gardyloo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Filter error: Please use less whitespace.

          Sorry, man. You'll just have to buy a stronger desk.

    7. Re:huh by MadnessASAP · · Score: 2, Funny

      You had O's? We had to use the Q key.

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    8. Re:huh by PitaBred · · Score: 3, Funny

      Allow me to be the first to say... "whooooosh"

    9. Re:huh by supernova_hq · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey cool, the hotel fixed all the scatches in my cellphone while I was having a shower. This calls for a BIG tip to housecleaning!

    10. Re:huh by Eevee · · Score: 4, Funny

      They knew the camera was there, but they were too overcome with joy that the copier wasn't constantly broken to care.

    11. Re:huh by natehoy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, we had O. To do a "Q", you did an O, then backspaced and typed a comma over it.

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    12. Re:huh by joocemann · · Score: 2, Funny

      China, a country, broke into a hotel room and stole blackberrys?

      please reword...

    13. Re:huh by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 2, Funny

      Perhaps he's talking about a secret band of mafia cutlery?

  2. Industrial espionage? by jmpeax · · Score: 5, Funny

    Symantec Chief Technology Officer Mark Bregman [...] was advised to buy a new cellphone for each visit

    Yes, heaven forbid China learns the secret of bloated antivirus software that ignores state-sponsored keyloggers.

    1. Re:Industrial espionage? by mrdoogee · · Score: 4, Funny

      What a coincidence! I advise people to buy new software after every Symantec install!

  3. Manufacture by fridaynightsmoke · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure glad that the laptops and cellphones in question weren't MADE in China in the first place...
    Oh, wait..

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  4. The real story by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 5, Funny

    The real story in the article should be "CTO of world's largest Windows security software company uses a mac."

  5. Re:Me sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    me go pee pee in your coke!

  6. whats the point? by Coraon · · Score: 2, Funny

    The US border guards are just going to swipe the laptop and smart phones at customs anyway.

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  7. Re:One word... by ryanov · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't they have a right to know how their money is spent? ;)

  8. Re:Good luck with that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...odds are you'll end up bugging a lot of 19 year old teenage girls going off to college instead of corporate execs.

    Either way, you win.

  9. The weight of those bits adds up! by noidentity · · Score: 2, Funny

    US intelligence agencies are advising top US IT executives to weigh their laptops before and after visiting China as one of many precautions against corporate espionage.

    This is very good advice, as it would instantly catch the loss of weight if any data was stolen from the laptop. You hear of data theft all the time, and all it takes is something low-tech like a scale to detect it.

  10. Re:Horse, close the barn door! by Lord+Ender · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is why the bugs are only activated when they detect an integer overflow error in any document called "personal finances.xls". With this method, they can be sure they're on an American executive's computer.

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  11. Re:Horse, close the barn door! by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

    15-25? Try 5. On many laptops you could get to a good access point right under the easily-removable keyboard.

    This, friends, is the real reason behind the famed Apple design of no user serviceable parts. Not to save weight, not to give Apple a few measly bucks for battery replacements but to prevent FOREIGN ESPIONAGE. Think about that that when you drop your Dell and 12 little plastic panels pop off.

    You Windows folks aught to be shot as spies.

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  12. Re:OTOH, DHS Might eliminate the issue as well.... by D+Ninja · · Score: 2, Funny

    What's the old saying (Kettle calling the Pot black)

    Actually, Pot started it. He called Kettle "black" first. It devolved into a war shortly thereafter when the Broiling Pan took sides and the Colander started screaming for legal recourse. Fortunately, Cheese Grater and Can Opener continued to get along. Then, of course, there was the scandal where Dish ran away with Spoon, but that's another story...

  13. Re:Good luck with that. by snspdaarf · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...odds are you'll end up bugging a lot of 19 year old teenage girls going off to college instead of corporate execs.

    Either way, you win.

    Until the restraining order kicks in.

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  14. Re:What about Chinese nationals? by geminidomino · · Score: 2, Funny

    A Chinese faculty member met with the Chinese students in order to tell them in America, cheating and other ethical breaches are not considered a good way to get ahead.

    They are, however, considered invaluable in *staying* ahead once you get there.

  15. Re:Chinese Coders? by PixetaledPikachu · · Score: 3, Funny

    No - you, sir, have no clue about Americans. Americans are in it for themselves, bar none. Any social interest arising from an American economic activity is merely an unintended side-effect of a self interest the executor couldn't turn into profit.

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