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(Near) Constant Internet While RV'ing?

Neilio writes "What systems would Slashdotters recommend for staying connected while RV'ing across the US and Canada? While a 3G data plan seems obvious, the intrepid RV'er wants to get remote and into those parts of the coverage map that are usually gray (no coverage). But satellite can be expensive, includes high latency for VoIP and gaming, and requires a clear view of the southern sky. I've come across some intriguing products that use an amplified 2G/3G signal and bridge to WiFi, like WiFi In Motion, and CradlePoint's MBR1000 (I have no affiliation with either). Do folks have any experience with these, or can you recommend another approach (even homebrew)? While I am an electrical engineer by degree, you have to go back a few decades since I last expertly sported a soldering iron, so the less DIY the better. My wife and I now run a web-based business, so nearly daily connectivity is a must, no matter where we are."

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  1. Cat V by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Big spools of Cat V... it's cheap

  2. Priorities by loteck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you want constant internet access, you must not go where there is no signal.

    If you want to go enjoy remote places with no signal, you cannot have constant internet coverage.

    Pick one.

    1. Re:Priorities by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah but unfortunately, no matter where you go, there you are.

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  3. Let me get this straight by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You say "the intrepid RV'er wants to get remote", but you want to remain in constant internet contact. You claim it's about your business, but you worry about latency's effect on gaming.

    Why exactly are you heading out anywhere? Cuz it sounds to me you're not gonna to see anything that's not reflected in your computer screen...

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    1. Re:Let me get this straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, he lives in his Mom's RV's Basement and she likes to travel.

    2. Re:Let me get this straight by BirdDoggy · · Score: 5, Funny

      His web business is WoW gold farming.

  4. You ask the impossible by Guspaz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You don't want to use satellite and you say cellular coverage isn't good enough. What exactly are you expecting? If there's no connectivity, there's no connectivity. No amount of homebrew can fix that.

    You also seem confused by WiFi In Motion and Cradlepoint products. They don't amplify anything, they're just access points that you can plug your phone in to get wifi coverage. A laptop and a router can do the same thing.

    You have two choices:

    1) Pony up the dough for satellite coverage
    2) Get a cellular data plan and live with no connectivity in dead zones

    I don't believe there are any other alternatives.

    1. Re:You ask the impossible by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Informative

      He could become a ham radio operator and use his home base as an internet proxy server. I don't know what the latency would be, but I would guess it would be better than satellite.

  5. The easiest solution by grasshoppa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Product requirements;

    - Decent latency
    - Decent bandwidth
    - Available everywhere
    - Reliable

    Solution; none. There is no product out there that will meet all four requirements.

    It now falls to you to decide what your priority is. Given that you need to stay in contact because of business concerns, I'd guess you'd make the following priorities

    1) Reliable
    2) Low latency for voip purposes
    3) Enough bandwidth for voip/email/image uploads
    4) Available everywhere.

    If that's the case, then the obvious answer is to simply NOT travel anywhere without 3g coverage. No other solution you are going to find will match your requirements otherwise.

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  6. Re:What? by Nursie · · Score: 5, Funny

    We'd probably call it a camper van. A large camper van.

    A caravan is something old people tow behind their hysterically underpowered cars in order to clog up the smaller roads in rural Britain with maximum effectiveness for any public holiday weekend.

  7. Re:What? by Locutus · · Score: 5, Funny

    RV'ing is when you put on a one-piece jump suit, throw all your stuff in a big box on wheels and drive up any hill you can find at the slowest speed possible and still be considered moving. If you see a place where you can park your big box, you pull over and most likely others, also wearing one-piece jump suits, will pull over too. You all make drinks and talk about each others big box, your next big box, and the box that got away.

    LoB

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  8. Re:What? by osu-neko · · Score: 5, Funny

    That is odd I use my boat for recreation but it doesn't qualify as a RV. I use my off road rigs for recreation too. Someone care to explain?

    Starfish aren't fish, either, and you park on driveways and drive on parkways. It's called language. Get used to it...

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  9. Re:What? by beelsebob · · Score: 5, Funny

    So it's like a lan party, only with more driving?

  10. Re:What? by SunTzuWarmaster · · Score: 5, Funny

    And less internet (see above).

  11. I just got done living two years on the road. by dhickman · · Score: 5, Informative

    There will be several modes that you will have use. As with anything else a fulltimer faces, no single solution will work all of the time.

    Stick with 12volt hardware. This should be obvious. You will not need to run your genny to have internet access.

    Pending where you are going to be this is what I have found to be the most flexible.

    Buy a cradlepoint or something similar that can take multiple brands of 3g cards/dongles, with a secondary ethernet wan port. Make sure the 3g cards/dongles have external antenna connectors.

    Buy an outdoor directional wifi CPE that has power over ethernet. Try to make sure it is 12v.

    Buy a wilson outdoor antenna, extension cable ( if needed) and connector dongle for each 3g card. I prefer makeing a custom mount that attached to the ladder, than penetrating the roof, but that is your choice.

    Buy a wilson amplifier, this is critical.

    Buy a motorola cable modem, and a at&t wired dsl modem.

    Locate a spot in the cabin that can wall mount the router, amp, and router the cables. I installed a separate lighted power switch for each of the 12v supplies, to make sure that the system had power and that I could cut it off and make it wife proof.

    Install the wifi CPE on a pole and make a mount that will mount to the ladder or other strong point. I would not bother will any fancy ethernet jacks on the outside, just have the cable go through the basement into the cabin.

    The problem with 3g is their 5gig limit. I would have a sprint and AT&T card. This should give you 3g over most of the US.

    The reason for the WIFI, is that almost all decent parks have some form of either pay wifi or free wifi. Turn it on, turn off the 3g and you win.

    All major truck stops have wifi, traditionally I always spent the night at flying J. I think their yearly price is not that bad.

    If you plan on spending more the two weeks at a single spot. Look for parks that advertise cable television. So far all but one of them, I found that I could get my cable modem working. None of the parks will be aware of this. All you do is plug the modem up and if it gets sync, try to surf. Usually there will be a redirect to the cable companies customer disservice line. If not call the customer service line. Usually you give them the mac and you will be online in minutes. Make sure that there is no contract since they are not supplying a modem. Cancel service when you leave.

    You can do this also with DSL on site supplied phone lines, but it takes days to weeks for the line to get turned up. I usually use dsl as a last hope.

    While on the road use 3g, for the parks, plan ahead and call the parks office. They usually will know if they have wifi and sometimes will know if their cable supports cable modems. Always have 2-3 parks ready, and pay the daily rate until you have verified which park is the best for a fulltimer.

    Good luck.
    dhh