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Ad Viewing Required For Free Zune HD Games
UnknowingFool writes "In releasing the Zune HD, Microsoft decided not to open up software development on the new Zune to third parties yet. Today, Microsoft released a handful of free games for the Zune HD: Texas hold 'em, Sudoku, Space Battle 3, Shell Game, Of the Future, Hexic, Goo Splat and Chess, as well as calculator and weather apps. Users, however, are required to view an ad (up to 30 seconds in length) while the game starts up. While ad-supported free games are also on other platforms, like the iPhone, the difference here is that those iPhone games are from third parties and not from Apple."
Reader Rock3t notes related news that the Zune HD will be getting 3D games.
Not really a surprise. On the old MSN gaming network they had them, and there are permanent ones in the MSN client, and the games started over the client had them too. ;)
Microsoft have to make their money somehow, and it's not looking like it's going to be through their software
Sure Microsoft, that IS a good idea! Ad-supported native software, straight from the mothership. Nothing gives a better impression than a cheapskate company trying to squeeze an extra buck off trivial software! Next time, require 3 subscriptions in spam lists for your notepad equivalent-du-jour, that'll bring in some extra cash!
Ah, that's another brilliant piece of marketese, everyone assumes it has something to do with HD video. In reality, it refers to the Hybrid Digital FM radio.
Yes, really.
Maybe I spend too much time on the wrong kind of websites, but I don't even want to know what that game is about!
Oh no... it's the future.
There is no way any company can so consistently get things just a bit wrong every single time.
You got to wonder what the hell the person who came up with this was thinking.
Dev1: "Well we can't do squirting again."
Dev2: "And brown has be done too."
Dev3: "I know, we give them ADDS for crappy games that we offered for free with every windows version and are available everywhere for free!
Dev1 and Dev2: "Wow! They don't call you Dev3 for nothing!"
The Zune HD can play back and output 720p videos...
You're confusing the definition of HD radio with the Zune HD.
Do you really have to spread your fud? I'm not a microsoft fan, but at least be honest.
"The Zune HD utilizes the Nvidia Tegra 600 chip [3], allowing it to play 720p video through the optional HDMI Zune dock on a high-definition television. Otherwise, content will be scaled down to 480x272 pixels on the player's OLED screen.[5]" From wikipedia.
Also from wikipedia:
# Video support: [14]
* DVD resolution and frame rate, up to 10 Mbps bit rate, CBR or VBR for:
o H.264, Baseline profile up to Level 3.1 + B-frames support [14]
o WMV Main and Simple Profile, Advanced profile up to Level 2.
* 720p HD resolution and up to 14 Mbps bit rate, CBR or VBR for above supported video profles
* MPEG-4 Part 2 Simple Profile up to 4.0 Mbps bit rate
# 720p high definition video output - HDMI or Composite (additional dock required for both)
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A lot of games on portable devices are something you might play for a few minutes to pass the time waiting for a bus, etc. If you have to wait 30 seconds for a game to start, then that's a sizeable percentage of the playing time which is ridiculous. It's even more annoying than all those trailers/adverts/previews/etc. you have to sit through at the cinema or the film preview you used to be forced to sit through on certain DVDs. And once you've seen the ad once, you're not going to watch it again for 30 seconds. If you have to advertise, put up an advertising splash screen for a few seconds with the option of the user pushing a button to exit the screen sooner.
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Anyone remember when Sun suddenly added Yahoo toolbar, on by default btw, to the main installers and later even the upgrade installers of Java? When I first saw that, I had a suspicious that either someone at Sun made a very bad marketing decision, or things were not going well on the Sun balance sheets. Turned out to be the latter. Could Microsoft be showing the first signs of financial desperation with this stunt, or is this just someone's stupid move?
It's news worthy because the Zune HD just recently released, comes with a marketplace not unlike the Apple App Store. Then the news came that the SDK wouldn't be available to the general public, only to a choice few 3rd parties. Then the news came that Microsoft would release all their apps for free. And now this, the catch comes along. Now we know why the marketplace is not like the App Store, because they plan to shove advertising down your throat.
"Not to mention all the idiots who use words like boxen."
Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, @06:49PM
Yes, you can playback 720p if you buy a $90 dock, for a $219 player. Meanwhile, back in reality, this means that the Zune cannot play HD video (it's only 480x272) unless you spend a significant amount of additional money (40%). They should have called it the Zune HD-ready.
The HD in the name, however, does not refer to that feature, but to the HD-radio.
One of things in the iTunes app store that is really getting on my nerves, is developer adding ads after the game is released. The progression goes: release a free game, wait until it is in the top 25 or gets popular, then create an update that includes ads.
Why is this annoying? Well, suddenly you have add boxes over key game elements, the game starts up slowly while ad loads (i.e. the much watch ad), or new start or splash pages appear that include the ads. Also, since everyone appears to use the same few ad networks, I get the same ads on every application. I feel like I got hit with some kind of bait and switch. I'll also note, that the update's description never mentions the new and exciting ad feature.
I started developing apps for the iPhone so I can understand the desire to be paid for your work. So, please think about your revenue model (and minimize the impact to players if you have ads) before your first release or better yet just sell it at a fair price. I will buy a good game. I will delete games that become unplayable and rank accordingly.
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How long until we'll be begging our Zunes to let us use our software ?
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By that definition Apple should be calling their products the "iPhone 3GS HD" and "iPod touch HD" since they too can output "HD" video via an "optional dock".
allowing it to play 720p video through the optional HDMI Zune dock
So really it should be Zune HD*
*HD sold separately
Tell that to all the early Zune HD buyers that were promised free games and apps on the Zune Marketplace and that just now discovered this or will in the future.
"Not to mention all the idiots who use words like boxen."
Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, @06:49PM