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Net Radio Exec Says "Don't Mention Linux"

Barence writes "It might be reliable enough to power their device, but it seems some companies are still a bit reluctant to use the 'L word' when talking about their products. Speaking at the launch of the touchscreen Pure Sensia digital radio, director of marketing Colin Crawford was pressed for specifics of the new device's software. But after his CEO reminded him that the new radio was based on a Linux OS, Crawford remarked: 'I don't like the using the word "Linux" on a radio.'" Of course the presence of (possibly embedded) Linux may not have any relevance to consumers in some products; but does the word itself carry a commercial stigma?

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  1. Competitive advantage by harmonise · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Linux may not have any relevance to consumers in some products; but does the word itself carry a commercial stigma

    Maybe it's a competitive advantage and they don't want to advertise all the details of what lets them produce a device cheaper and faster than their competitors. Really, the Linux community needs to stop seeing adversaries around every corner.

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    1. Re:Competitive advantage by gbarules2999 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You-know-who may not have any relevance to consumers in some products; but does the word itself carry a commercial stigma

      Maybe it's a competitive advantage and they don't want to advertise all the details of what lets them produce a device cheaper and faster than their competitors. Really, the you-know-who community needs to stop seeing adversaries around every corner.

      We do not speak his name! He-who-must-not-be-named!

    2. Re:Competitive advantage by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Maybe it's a competitive advantage and they don't want to advertise all the details of what lets them produce a device cheaper and faster than their competitors. Really, the Linux community needs to stop seeing adversaries around every corner.

      Because using linux as an embedded OS was such a keenly revolutionary idea that no one else in the marketplace would ever consider the possibility on their own.
      Right.

      Maybe there is a plausible explanation, but that sure ain't it.

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    3. Re:Competitive advantage by tsa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is. Most people in the real world don't even know what an operating system is, and that your average appliance uses software to do the things it's supposed to do. Bothering them with that only confuses them.

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    4. Re:Competitive advantage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Let's see. Xenu is an important figure to Scientologists, but they don't like mentioning his name.

      Linux is an important OS to some companies, but they don't like mentioning its name.

      Therefore, Linux blew up their volcano.

      Simple, really.

  2. Most of us are unqualified to comment by erroneus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That includes [especially] me. We already have our own perceptions of Linux and what it means. We, at times desperately, want others to see Linux the way we do. But they don't.

    Frankly, I don't really know or understand how others see Linux. I could venture to guess though... Linux is weird. Linux is not normal. Linux is what "different" people use.

    I know that people put a lot of associative value in identity. People want to think of themselves and everything they identify themselves with as good and normal and hopefully even cool. Linux is only cool to a limited number of people... to everyone else, Linux is an associative reflection of all the weirdos who use Linux. Most of use are geeks and not socially ordinary. What does that say about how others might see Linux?

  3. Because it's not relevant? by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Slashdotters like to jump at it and go "cool, does that mean I can hack on it like my toaster?". They in marketing probably have absolutely no interest in that, they want to sell an appliance. Whether it's running Linux or BSD or WinCE or whatever else embedded OS, that's not what they want to talk about. That's not what they want the marketing message to be. They don't want people thinking of it as a computer in drag because computers are complex and their device is easy and user friendly. Funny how a marketing director might want to focus on features and not the internals of the OS running the thing. So it runs Linux, great. Could we get back to telling you why this is a product people will want?

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  4. Re:Linux. by l3ert · · Score: 5, Funny

    You are saying that because your are bitter that your previous plan of them going "Ooh what is that?... OMG a penguin how cute! Wanna go out?" failed. And now your new plan for "Ooh a Mac, how hip! Wanna go out?" isn't giving any results either but it was too expensive for you to admit failure yet. All along the solution was so simple: "no one has ever not been laid because they run Windows!"

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  5. also don't mention the war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    no no... dont mention the war!!!!!!

    --john cleese

  6. I'm reminded of this by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    See this. Enough said.

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  7. Re:LINUX INSIDE! by hoggoth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am a programmer not a marketer, but your attitude towards marketing is something I hear all the time in technical departments. It creates an unhealthy us vs. them dynamic in companies that hurts communication. Communication between techies and marketing people is hard enough already.

    Marketing people are not idiots because they cant program a computer. The really good ones are experts at manipulating peoples emotions and desires in subtle ways. Since people's emotions are not rational things, the work of marketing people does not follow rational rules either. This makes their work seem "dumb" to obsessively rational people like us programmers.

    Why do you think upper management seems to always "fall for" the "idiotic" ideas of marketing and not listen to the "rational" arguments of developers? It's partially because marketing people are experts at making compelling arguments. While we are really good at making logical arguments that are factually accurate yet convince no one but other logical people.

    The other reason is because marketing may not be as "smart" as development, but they get a fundamental truth that seems to evade many programmers. It's more important (to the company) to SELL your product than to make it good. Look at all the half-asses crap around you to see how true that is.

    So.... I forgot my point, but you get my point.

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  8. Re:Linux. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You've forgotten a major angle on this: "Ooh a Mac, you must have HAD money! Wanna go out?"

    There, fixed that for you.

  9. Re:LINUX INSIDE! by the_womble · · Score: 5, Funny

    Marketing people are not idiots because they cant program a computer.

    True, that is not why they are idiots.