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First Look At Wild New "Level 10" Concept PC Case

notthatwillsmith writes "Maximum PC just posted an exclusive hands on with Thermaltake's unique Level 10 case. This concept design features individual compartments for different components (each with dedicated cooling) all mounted on a black steel frame. The case looks like a prop from 2001, rendered in black steel instead of white plastic. It's absolutely unlike anything I've ever seen before."

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  1. very pretty by Em+Emalb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    but for me, and my company, ludicrous to even consider. Laptops and Desktops and Servers are all throw-away* commodities these days. I have no use for this. But wow, it's pretty.

    *recycle, Manbearpig thanks you.

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    1. Re:very pretty by 0racle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Cases like this are aimed at the hobbyist, not at corporate desks or people only interested in a tool.

      Personally, I kinda like it.

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    2. Re:very pretty by sadness203 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      47 pounds case ? It's for no hobbyist, it's for body builder. No normal geek could even think of moving this behemoth.
      And I find it rather ugly.

    3. Re:very pretty by sajuuk · · Score: 5, Funny

      Any normal geek should be able to lift 47lbs without a problem from moving around outdated CRTs to throw them out of windows. And from moving around liquid cooled servers.

    4. Re:very pretty by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Funny

      They've helpfully taken care of that problem, ensuring that the cost of the case is significantly more than the cost of shipping by setting the case's price at $700.

    5. Re:very pretty by Nested · · Score: 5, Funny

      Any normal geek that is, excluding Mac users. Jobs killed CRTs back in 2002 (well, except for the eMac which sold for an additional three years to EDU) lending plenty of time for major muscle atrophy to have set in.

      tl;dr Mac users won't be able to lift this thing.

    6. Re:very pretty by PitaBred · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just saying "any normal geek" already excludes Mac users. It has nothing to do with when Apple stopped using CRTs.

      /me dons asbestos undies

    7. Re:very pretty by Duradin · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're forgetting about the massive amount of smug they haul around all the time.

    8. Re:very pretty by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No normal geek could even think of moving this behemoth.

      First, who moves their desktop computer? The reason we have laptops is so that we can move them around. Desktops are meant to sit next to, or under, or behind the desk, in a closet, on a shelf (a strong shelf in this case).

      I have no problem with a 50-lb desktop case if it's quiet and keeps the computer's bits cool.

      I hate having my computer crash because of heat when I'm right in the middle of a stunt run in Burnout Paradise.

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    9. Re:very pretty by tacarat · · Score: 4, Funny

      I've been meaning to talk to you about that. Your 6 year old has been seen beating up /.ers for their lunch money.

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    10. Re:very pretty by element-o.p. · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I live in Alaska, you insensitive clod! EVERYTHING costs more to ship than to build!

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    11. Re:very pretty by element-o.p. · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't move my desktop often, but it does happen. I once had to take my desktop to a database programming class because stupid Windows required a reboot after installing an ADO component, my VB/Oracle project required the ADO component to work, and the college PCs had something like Deep Freeze installed so that all changes were rolled back at reboot. Solution? Bring my desktop to class to demonstrate the project. It was a PITA, but I got an "A"

      I wish I had known Perl and Linux back then...or had a laptop. Or both :)

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    12. Re:very pretty by node+3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just saying "any normal geek" already excludes Mac users. It has nothing to do with when Apple stopped using CRTs.

      Only for extreme definitions of "geek" (which is excluded by the term "normal geek").

      Macs are very geek-friendly. Unix + a commercially-supported desktop system? Even Linus Torvals uses/used a Mac. He ran Linux on it (obviously), but still...

      Now, had the term been "gamers" or "oss geeks" or something, you'd have a point.

      /me dons asbestos undies

      Or, paraphrased: I'm going to pre-label anyone who disagrees with me as a troll or fanatical fanboy.

    13. Re:very pretty by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 3, Funny

      $150?

      Fuck that. I just screwed all my components into a scrap piece of plywood.

      Five years, no failures.

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    14. Re:very pretty by node+3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I live in Alaska, you insensitive clod! EVERYTHING costs more to ship than to build!

      Sure, but most of that is all the overhead the post office has to deal with to make sure Putin isn't hiding in any of the packages.

    15. Re:very pretty by Vexorian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      First, who moves their desktop computer?

      geeks?

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    16. Re:very pretty by Clover_Kicker · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's about the same as the PS/2 model 80 towers. They had a handle built into the top of the case.

    17. Re:very pretty by quanticle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      First, who moves their desktop computer?

      Geeks going to LAN parties, of course. What's the point of buying a case like this, if you can't take it around and show to all your (now green with envy) friends?

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    18. Re:very pretty by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 3, Funny

      If smug had mass Debian users (myself included) would have collapsed the world into a black hole by now.
      That said, I've got to get back to using my carefully and conscientiously designed OS.
      Was I being to condescending there? By the way, to be "condescending" means "to talk down to."

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  2. Looks like a bit of a dust magnet by hyades1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you buy one of these suckers, you'd best make sure your girlfriend really enjoys dusting. Oh, wait a minute...this is Slashdot. Never mind.

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    1. Re:Looks like a bit of a dust magnet by nomadic · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you buy one of these suckers, you'd best make sure your girlfriend really enjoys dusting. Oh, wait a minute...this is Slashdot.

      I'd also point out that, in addition to slashdot, this is also the 21st century.

    2. Re:Looks like a bit of a dust magnet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That means vacuuming instead of dusting?

    3. Re:Looks like a bit of a dust magnet by eln · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'd also point out that, in addition to slashdot, this is also the 21st century.

      Exactly! We can make our own mechanical women now, girlfriends are soooo last century!

    4. Re:Looks like a bit of a dust magnet by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Funny

      My *wife* (yes really) does actually like putting on a maid's costume and picking up the feather duster.

      Unfortunately, she never gets around to the dusting.

      So I'm thinking of exchanging her for a newer model.

      Your "mechanical women" seem like just the trick... can you please send me the technical specs and blueprints?

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    5. Re:Looks like a bit of a dust magnet by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Funny

      My *wife* (yes really) does actually like putting on a maid's costume and picking up the feather duster.

      Unfortunately, she never gets around to the dusting.

      I'm a tad confused - is this a bug, or a feature?

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    6. Re:Looks like a bit of a dust magnet by Minwee · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm a tad confused - is this a bug, or a feature?

      Depends on if you're home when it happens.

    7. Re:Looks like a bit of a dust magnet by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Funny

      It used to be a feature, but middle age has made it into a bug.

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  3. Wait... what? by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The case looks like a prop from 2001, rendered in black steel instead of white plastic. It's absolutely unlike anything I've ever seen before.

    How can it look like a prop from a movie if its unlike anything you've ever seen before?

    Logic failing aside,

    It makes me think of what might happen if they combined the Death Star's Exterior with a PS3.

  4. Can't wait to dust it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All those nooks and crannies, I'd say it looks like the moore's law version of an english muffin. Hope your apartment is actually a fab's clean room.

  5. Duh by moogied · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course its like nothing you've ever seen. Its completely unnecessary. I've never seen a car with built-in centrifuge.. doesn't mean they should make one.

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    1. Re:Duh by NecroPuppy · · Score: 2, Funny

      1.21 gigawatts should be enough for anyone.

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    2. Re:Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've never seen a car with built-in centrifuge.. doesn't mean they should make one.

      They do.

  6. Ok. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Cool? Yes. $700 cool? No.

    1. Re:Ok. by theIsovist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I find it interesting that they intend to sell it to architects. The case design is clutered and littered with ornamental additions. the reveals on the flat side take away from the clean plane they attempted to create. Modern architecture and design is about simple, elegant beauty. This case is overly elaborate and the added details do nothing to enhance the function. For the record, IAA.

  7. Pretty but still not perfect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you look at the drive bay covers they are not perfectly aligned. For $700, you would expect Jobsian OCD attention to detail, regardless in shortcomings to the other design elements.

  8. The bottom line: $700 by steveha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's all I really need to know. It looks interesting, it might be cool, but I'll never buy one.

    steveha

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  9. Terrible by ShooterNeo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why this case is a bad idea :

    1. $700. That would buy a whole generation of core component upgrades (CPU/video card/RAM)
    2. It uses small, noisy fans rather than larger, quiet ones like this case : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811103011
    3. Having a sweet looking computer case isn't going to impress anyone any more than having a sweet comic book collection. Save the money for spending things on stuff that actually (theoretically) have a chance of getting you laid, like better clothes or a nicer car.
    4. You could buy a vapor chill cooler instead and overclock like mad. This case won't give you any more performance than a standard case.

    In short, $700? No Wi Fi? Less space than a server case? Lame.

    1. Re:Terrible by Stevecrox · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why does everyone assume fancy cars or superbikes will get you laid. When I bought my £4k superbike every person (men and women) all thought the said the same thing. The problem is if you pull up outside a crowded pub in a top class Mercedes/ Audi A4 controvertible or a superbike all that happens is 10 guys come up to have a look at it and tell you how awesome it is. Then they tell you how they'd love to own one and ask you how it drives/rides.

      It's like the myth that owning a motorcyle makes you cool to the opposite sex. Honestly in 7 years of riding I've met three random girls who liked the idea. Every other woman I've met when it comes up in conversation has used this exact phrase "Thats so cool, but I could never ride a bike its too scary." I ride a bike because its a joy, not because it makes me "cool". As for the Mecredes and the Audi pure luck from work rentals off of Hertz.

      My point? Buy what makes you happy, if its a superbike or a massive comic collection. Just because you have a particular possession you won't magically become more attractive to the opposite sex. For me this case seems like a massive waste of money, but then I think iPhones are massive wastes of money.

    2. Re:Terrible by c6gunner · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd like to hear where you shop for hookers, because I hear that $700 might get you....3 hours with a decent quality hooker.

      Thailand. $700 will get you a small harem for a week. Hell, you can have them build you a custom PC case while they're not otherwise occupied.

    3. Re:Terrible by schon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's like the myth that owning a motorcyle makes you cool to the opposite sex.

      How is it a myth again? The rest of that paragraph even shows it:

      in 7 years of riding I've met three random girls who liked the idea. Every other woman I've met when it comes up in conversation has used this exact phrase "Thats so cool, but I could never ride a bike its too scary."

      See? By your own words, every woman you've met thinks it's cool. (We assume that the three random ones that like it think it's cool.)

      Incidentally, the ones who say "it's too scary" are waiting for you to convince them it's perfectly safe, so that you'll take them for a ride. :)

      I ride a bike because its a joy, not because it makes me "cool".

      Agreed. There is *nothing* like the freedom of a motorcycle.. the women are just a bonus.. (although not so much since I got married, but it's still a stroke of the ego when you're in your late 30's, get off the bike and a hot 19 year-old comes over to talk to you about it :)

    4. Re:Terrible by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wiring up a house to have the same effect is expensive

      Cable runs with good-looking and unobtrusive molding do not cost that much and are easy to run along where the ceiling meets the wall. Unless you're actually running a data center, you only need to run a single Cat 5 to each point needing connectivity; that's what switches are for (and you can get a good switch dirt cheap).

      and then you are still tethered.

      Because once you have WiFi, the power cord doesn't tether you at all! Note that I'm not arguing against WiFi for actually mobile devices--I have WiFi in my own apartment. I'm using it to type this post on this laptop right now, and I also use it for my handheld game consoles. But if you're already tethered, you might as well go with the speed, security and reliability of having a wire.

    5. Re:Terrible by Grishnakh · · Score: 2, Informative

      You don't need a wired house to use wired Ethernet. My cable wire runs into my office, where my cable modem, router, two computers, and printer are located. Why on earth would I use WiFi to connect all these to the router when it's right there on the same desk?

      WiFi is for the laptop which roams around the house. Everything else gets a wire. And when I need to transfer large files to/from the laptop, I take it into the office as well and plug in with a wire, because wired Ethernet is far faster than WiFi.

    6. Re:Terrible by Nethead · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just because you have a particular possession you won't magically become more attractive to the opposite sex.

      A paid for house will.

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  10. no Firewire ports by arizonagroovejet · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For $700 I'd expect at least one FW800 port on the front.

  11. Re:Motherboard? by bcmm · · Score: 2, Informative
    From TFA:

    The case fits standard ATX and micro-ATX boards.

    It is indeed beautiful. And it's very cool that it takes standard hardware Every other commercial case I've seen is either a barebone with a non-removable motherboard, a conventional large box, or a large box with tacky plastic 'round the edges to make it look less like a large box. I couldn't imagine anybody spending this much on a non-standard case which will go obsolete, but a real case stays current for a long time, unless, of course, the PSU is non-replaceable. Anybody know about that?

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  12. Dumb. by rAiNsT0rm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've been a system builder since the 486DX2 66MHz days and of all the case designs I've seen come, go, and be claimed to be the next coming, the only one to ever be a perfect blend of form and function is the Mac Pro cases by Apple. I'm not even a fanboy, and most of those cases probably were never even cracked, but there is no denying them. This thing is just dumb.

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  13. Waiting for next revision by Stealth+Dave · · Score: 4, Funny

    My case needs to go to eleven.

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  14. not very interesting by Nadaka · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would prefer something with more class, more style, more customization and a price tag that doesn't make one vomit blood.

    This is going to be my next case. Wood and brass (fake brass, but close enough). Great thing about a wood case is that it is easily modifiable with simple household tools.
    http://www.nmediapc.com/htpc8000.htm

    1. Re:not very interesting by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wow. That thing's only 100 bucks at newegg. That's really not bad for a classy-looking case that would actually fit in in the family room. A little old tyme, but nice.

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    2. Re:not very interesting by Nadaka · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Exactly. Its not expensive, is very stylish and easily modifiable. Unlike the huge clunky piece of steel the original article is about (some could justifiable argue that the Level 10 is stylish, but that is in the eye of the beholder).

      One thing that I plan on doing is modding the top panel to hinge open instead of screw down, in that space above the drive bays I will have space for a multimedia remote, wireless mouse and possibly a wireless keyboard if I can find one small enough for a reasonable price.

  15. Cables length? by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of the strengths and unfortunate weaknesses of PCs is that components are interchangable. This is a plus, since it means anyone can replace a part, but the downside is, the replacement parts may not fit the "concept" quite wel.

    In this case, it appears that while there's the central stand for wire routing, I'm not sure if it comes with the requisite power supply and cables trimmed to the right length. Too much cable is OK, you can hide the slack in the tower, but more often than not, cables are just a wee bit too short.

    A design like the old G4 towers where one side flips down with the motherboard exposed and all the cables running along the edge is what I envision a good case to be, but even in OEM PC designs from Dell and the like, they incorporate such "flip open" design. Unfortunately, it fails as some cable is too short, meaning it flips open a little bit, you disconnect it, open it more, disconnect the next too-short cable, etc. A real mess that spoils the nice servicability.

    My one concern is that - what happens if the power supply you bought doesn't have cables that reach? You have to invest in extensions? Or is that vertical stand contain a backplane, and all you do is plug the power/sata/IDE/etc cables into it, where they will go to the right component?

  16. Re:It's a luggable. by Rakishi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It weights 50lbs, you're not going to move it around your house at will unless you shove some wheels on it. Then you have to drag your monitor, find a flat place for the keyboard, plug all the 20 cables back in and so on. There's a handle I'm guessing so you can move it around at all without spending the next week with ice on your back.

  17. Re:Anyone else remember the Cube? by nschubach · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If I wanted simple access to things, I'd by a server rack case with hot swap bays and a convenient door on the top of the case then mount it under my desk like a drawer. Come to think of it. That's what I want... Where are the computer desks with built in rails?

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  18. The price of two Lian Li 343B by Civil_Disobedient · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No thanks. I'll take my Big Black Box of Death over this modular monstrosity any day of the week (and for half the price).

  19. Wait, I've got another one: by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

    I rather like the "ugly black behemoth".

    So does your mom, I hear.

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  20. One last one: by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

    I rather like the "ugly black behemoth".

    No need to bring Star Jones into this discussion.

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  21. Re:Remember, folks by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If a Mac user spends the money on something jaw-droppingly cool, they're an elitist snob who pays more for white plastic with a logo on it.

    Actually no, they're still just a hobbyist who's into cool computer hardware because nothing that could be described as "jaw-droppingly cool" comes in white plastic with an Apple logo on it.

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  22. So which is it? by Clockwork+Apple · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Either "The case looks like a prop from 2001" or "It's absolutely unlike anything I've ever seen before."

    Make up your mind.

    C.

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