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Mainstream Press "Cringes" At Win7 Launch Parties

lurking_giant writes "Well, Microsoft has done it again with the YouTube Windows 7 launch party video that is turning the stomachs of even the mainstream press with its clueless and campy marketing style. A Washington Post reader was quoted as saying 'If Microsoft had been put in charge of marketing sex, the human race would have ended long ago, because no one would be caught dead doing something that uncool.'" Even the Guardian's resident die-hard Apple hater calls it "the most nauseating advert in history."

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  1. First post... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I see everyone else is catatonic from watching the video.

    1. Re:First post... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      After watching the clock on the oven behind them lurch around between 3:00 and 5:00 I have an awful headache, and my eyes and ears are starting to bleed. I think I need to find a constant.

    2. Re:First post... by socceroos · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yep. I'm at a loss for words.

      But seriously, what are Microsoft getting at? This is looking more and more like a cult thing than ever. Inviting friends over to preach to them about the virtues of Windows 7 so the unrepentant soul might offer sacrifices and money to the Microsoft god? I found the advert really eerie and unsettling...

      I couldn't get the word 'scientology' out of my head when watching this... The church of Microsoftology - has a nice ring to it. Doctrines include Windowsology (overarching doctrine which includes many sub-doctrines and principals including DOSomatics, BSODology and Restartology) amongst many others.

      Its Ballmerific!

    3. Re:First post... by TW+Burger · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Uuuuuuuuuuuhuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh... drool, pass out. No wonder adding comments has been disabled for the video. This reminds me of anti-smoking ads that are so lame and stupid (usually directed at teens) that they make you want to smoke.

    4. Re:First post... by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think its more Microsoft attempting to be similar to Apple. But the problem is they are failing because PCs are just too common. Its not a "choice" to use MS software, its just there by default. And its a pain for the average user. Either they spend a lot of $$$ getting an easy to use Mac or save money and get a PC with problems. Thats just how the average person sees things.

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    5. Re:First post... by Chabil+Ha' · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm actually hosting one of these, but we're also going to be doing comparison demos of Ubuntu and Snow Leopard. In addition to the Windows 7 junk that comes in the party kit (including a free copy of Windows 7 Ultimate), I will be giving out LiveCDs and and discs of free software.

      I think Windows 7 is a marked improvement over XP (I have been using it fulltime since the beta), but friends help friends find what's best for their situation. I have die hard Windows/Mac/Linux friends, so doing it this way is a chance for everyone to explore something new--even if I have to make an excuse like a Windows 7 party to do it.

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    6. Re:First post... by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's a great video. I found it oddly relaxing. Also, watch the clock on the oven. The time leaps all over the place on it.

      They didn't even have the sense to shoot without a clock there to show that one will ask a question, then the answer will be from seven minute prior, then we leap back two hours etc...

      Just absolutely absurd.

    7. Re:First post... by postbigbang · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is a company that's trying to get back the fanfare that they lost after dragging out XP in three service packs, then a real loser with Vista, and misses those lines at Best Buys. Community support makes Windows 7 a kind of empty event. We wanted Vista to be cool, but it was a slap in the face. Trying to buy back user fanboyness isn't easy to do, and this one looks like a backlash attempt.

      If you make good stuff, they'll come and love you. Viz others currently enjoying heaps of (oft undeserved) fanboy love.

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    8. Re:First post... by Runaway1956 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "but we're also going to be doing comparison demos of Ubuntu and Snow Leopard"

      Hey, Dude, that's uber cool! And, I don't even talk like that, LMAO! Can you film it? Or at least post about how it goes? Maybe some pics? Come on - ya gotta do it!!

      Is it all geeks, or are you gonna have less abnormal "users" there? Can I come?

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    9. Re:First post... by oldspewey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just make sure your guest list is racially and demographically neutral, and that everybody adheres to the J. Crew wardrobe requirement.

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    10. Re:First post... by OnlineAlias · · Score: 5, Funny

      And the black guy has to be white if you are in Poland. You can just photoshop him out....

    11. Re:First post... by oddaddresstrap · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is your party...

      This is your party on Windows 7...

    12. Re:First post... by Gerzel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Is it just me or is it incredably ironic that the video is streamed from YouTube which is owned by Google. Shouldn't they have their Bing or equivalent knock-off by now?

    13. Re:First post... by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3, Funny

      HA HA!!!! Yes, the video sucked, but I found cool links!! And, I got a new sig!!!

      I LOVE this story!

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    14. Re:First post... by Gerzel · · Score: 3, Funny

      Competition between OS's?

      Doesn't that break the party's TOS?

    15. Re:First post... by Gerzel · · Score: 2

      Those "others" are blissfully ignorant.

    16. Re:First post... by flyingfsck · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think someone with a webcam on an Ubuntu netbook made that 'advertisement' to spite M$...

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    17. Re:First post... by postbigbang · · Score: 5, Interesting

      In reality, there was a lot of fanfare with Windows 95 and 98. ME broke a bubble but Windows 2000, where DOS was finally dealt a death as an underpinning, was a comparatively big deal. There was fanboyism that in turn, gave Microsoft a lift into data centers where they'd never been allowed before. The rest of history is as we know it.

      So yeah-- they had and even may have fanboys. Linux once really sucked, despite its philosophical underpinnings. Apple's MacOS wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, either. Things change.

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    18. Re:First post... by Rophuine · · Score: 2, Funny

      Let's pick and choose some quotes from the video. Are we talking about the launch of an OS here, or kinky new toys for a swingers' party?

      Look at the activities you and your guests can try at your party, and choose the ones that seem to you to be the most fun. There's a video of each activity from one of our parties, and we have tried them all, right?

      Some of the host notes, they list bonus activities... But you may wanna try them, but you have to make sure you have the right devices at hand.

      I mean, it's a good way to get things going, right? Whatever your party is, you got four separate videos of each of us doing bits and pieces of this kind of thing at our own parties...

      You figure out what your guests want, and maybe just play it by ear! In any event, we each did an activity or two.

      I mean, bottom line, guests love it when the activity is about them. Hey another thing, I found that it really helped to name the person to be first with the hands-on activity, and have them pick the next person, and so on and so on.

      Some activies have a ... modest setup, you know, they require certain things for you to have at the house.

      In any case, none of the setup is too hard, right? You need to make sure that you're ready to go when your guests arrive and, there are bonus activities in some cases and, you wanna go deeper perhaps into it then you have to have the equipment to do that.

      I think the biggest thing is to be totally creative with the party and the activities. I mean, this is your party!

      Have fun out there!

    19. Re:First post... by Capsaicin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think its more Microsoft attempting to be similar to Apple.

      Isn't that what they've been done since Windows 1.0? Similar, yet different enough not to loose the look'n'feel litiations. Or am I showing my age here? But yes, you absolutely correct, they are trying to address their image problem (and coming off looking like wannabees).

      And its a pain for the average user.

      It's even more pain for the expert user. When you're manipulation several thousands of files at the same time you realise that what Windows needs is an OS! (Well a shell actually -- personally I operate Windows via a Python shell). Yes the Mac is 'easy,' but for myself the thing that makes it really servicable is Terminal.app. Though I should add of the three systems I use (*nix, osx and win in that order) I'm surprised to find myself on occasion actually using the GUI on the mac!? Wierd.

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    20. Re:First post... by Jesus_666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Except Scientology offers you peace of mind, or at least they pretend to. This was a briefing video for Microsoft marketing personnel. Nothing more, nothing less. Only Microsoft for some reason decided to point it at random people hoping they will just decide they need to market Windows for them.

      It's not exactly breaking news that marketing people have no connection to reality but this is bad even for marketing people. It's like they fed an AI with all the scrapped concepts from the paper can of a marketing firm and told it to acript them an advertisement.

      Given the Songsmith video and the Seinfeld ads I think that might actually be the case.

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    21. Re:First post... by Intron · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I couldn't get the word 'scientology' out of my head when watching this

      I was thinking "Amway"

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    22. Re:First post... by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Am I the only one who read all these parent posts in the voice of the middle woman in the video?

      And is it just me or are they written conversation-style mimicking the pacing of the video?

    23. Re:First post... by PC+and+Sony+Fanboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's actually more than lipstick, but it's also anti-climactic.

      are we talking about win7 or snow leopard?

    24. Re:First post... by LeperPuppet · · Score: 3, Interesting

      As to why people are hosting these parties, free software is the answer. Party hosts get a free copy of Windows 7 and some promotional crap to distribute to their "guests". All you have to do is organise some form of party and claim its a release party. Plenty of these parties will just be a host and some fictitious guests. Microsoft PR will happily take the raw numbers and use them in future advertising (ie x thousand parties worldwide and y million guests). I can see why the PR clowns thought this was a good idea, since they don't live in the real world and have no idea how most people perceive Microsoft and its products.

    25. Re:First post... by ozmanjusri · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I have an awful headache, and my eyes and ears are starting to bleed. I think I need to find a constant.

      That's because the video is intended to mirror the real-life experience of using a Microsoft OS.

      To quote Charlie Brooker;

      It's grim, it's slow, everything's badly designed and nothing really works properly: using Windows is like living in a communist bloc nation circa 1981.

      Seriously though, I think the video is pretty successful. Microsoft has been desperate to hype Windows 7, and the OS itself just isn't an exciting product. The average computer-buying person will notice there have been a few interface changes, muddle through getting their favourite apps and files on the machine, then carry on using it as though it was still 1995.

      Under the hood, the software may be vastly more sophisticated, but in terms of user interaction, not much has changed for more than a decade. And in many ways, that's what their main customers, large businesses want. They don't want to have to retrain employees, change business process, etc, etc.

      So for Microsoft to get people to notice they have a new product out, they need to get some discussion going. They can't outcompete Apple in cool, and that's not their key market. They've chosen a slightly retro, awkward and geeky theme to these adverts, and trust me, the awkwardness is intentional (Remember Bill Gates and Seinfeld?).

      It's not a bad marketing trick for a vast, habitually arrogant organisation to portray itself as a geeky underdog. It feels a lot less threatening that way.

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    26. Re:First post... by POTSandPANS · · Score: 5, Funny

      The clock on the oven kinda reminds me of the estimated-time-remaining clock on a windows file copy dialog.

      xkcd:
      http://xkcd.com/612/

    27. Re:First post... by socceroos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nope, its not just you. You've been infected.

      Whatever you do, do not scratch out your eyeballs. While it at first seems logical after watching the video, you will forever be stuck with the images in the inky blackness of your mind. At least your eyes can distort the pain by processing other data!

    28. Re:First post... by postbigbang · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Both, now that I think of it.

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    29. Re:First post... by ozmanjusri · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I think its more Microsoft attempting to be similar to Apple. But the problem is they are failing because PCs are just too common.

      I think you're right about what they're attempting, but not that they're failing.

      They're not trying to make themselves look cool, because as you say, they sell a ubiquitous product. What they are doing is setting their customers up to feel hip. The advert makes it very easy to sneer and feel superior to the awkward geeks portrayed by the actors on screen. People like to feel superior, they even feel more graciously disposed to their 'inferiors'. They might even hold ironic or deliberately grungy versions of the Win 7 parties themselves.

      So, as alert consumers, you have to ask yourself one question:

      "Which is more likely, that an advertising agency with a virtually unlimited budget would make such a truly amateurish video, or that you are being subtly manipulated?"

      Do you feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?

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    30. Re:First post... by QuantumG · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think Windows 7 is a marked improvement over XP

      How?

      (I have been using it fulltime since the beta),

      Why?

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    31. Re:First post... by Darkness404 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Macs though in general are a lot more uniform. If you know how to use X app, you can use Y app easily. Yeah, OS X has some oddities that if you come from Windows or from GUI Linux (if you use the shell on OS X or Linux its pretty similar) but once you get over those, they are very constant. With Windows you learn each program by themselves. Yeah, you can figure out some things, but the interfaces are totally different between even MS programs shipped on the same version of Windows.

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    32. Re:First post... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm actually hosting one of these, but we're also going to be doing comparison demos of Ubuntu and Snow Leopard. In addition to the Windows 7 junk that comes in the party kit (including a free copy of Windows 7 Ultimate), I will be giving out LiveCDs and and discs of free software.

      Wait wait wait wait WAIT a minute. You can't just slip that past us so easily. There's a party kit? You're not joking about that?

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    33. Re:First post... by wellingj · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You should do a slashdot article on it.

    34. Re:First post... by Chabil+Ha' · · Score: 4, Interesting

      OMG no. You get balloons, a deck of cards, napkins (napkins?!) and free copy of Windows 7 Ultimate. You're suppose to install it on your computer and become familiar with and demo it, but since I've had a copy since the RTM was released last month, I'm just going to raffle it off.

      Most of this crap isn't even going up, but here's the full list of junk:
      -One limited Signature Edition Windows® 7 Ultimate
      -One Deck of Playing Cards with Windows® 7 Desktop Design
      -One Puzzle with Windows® 7 Desktop Design
      -One Poster with Windows® 7 Desktop Design
      -Ten Tote Bags with Windows® 7 Desktop Design for hosts and guests
      -One table top centerpiece for decoration
      -One package of Windows® 7 napkins

      Also included in USA party packs:

      -One package of streamers for decoration
      -One package of balloons for decoration

      Looks like the rest of the world gets the shaft, what with no balloons or streamers...

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    35. Re:First post... by bendodge · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It breaks compatibility with a lot of ancient cruft. That's one of my biggest pluses for Win7.

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    36. Re:First post... by nmb3000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have an awful headache, and my eyes and ears are starting to bleed.

      To be honest, I didn't even make it half-way through. Being mere seconds away from death by boredom I clicked a Win7 Launch Party related video which looked much more interesting.

      It was. Much.

      Seriously though, I think part of the problem is my complete lack of ability to understand why anyone would have a launch party for an operating system. Yes, Windows 7 is very nice, but a launch party? Really? A launch party is for things like movies and video games. You get a group together and have fun with some brand new entertainment you all enjoy and looked forward to being released. The excitement at an OS launch party? "Ooh, look! I can get work done on my computer more efficiently now! You guys have to try this!"

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    37. Re:First post... by geminidomino · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, anyone other than the staff/dev team having a "launch party" for a movie/game is only slightly less pathetic than someone having a launch party for an OS.

    38. Re:First post... by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But as a matter of philosophy, Microsoft boldly claims "You will never need a shell" and a lot of people rejoice.

      Yes, but then those of us who want a shell get... the freaking MS-DOS Command Prompt. Quite possibly the worst shell interface known to mankind. It's so bad that its suckiness has to be deliberate, Microsoft's way of "encouraging" people to think that clicking on icons is the only reasonable way to use a computer.

      (yeah, I know there are alternatives. My point is that they shouldn't be "alternatives", something decent should be the default by now. It's 2009, not 1981, for God's sake)

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    39. Re:First post... by elronxenu · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In the video (yes, I watched everything) they said you should install it 2 days before your party starts.

      That cracked me up. I guess it takes 2 days to install :-) The party will not go smoothly if guests are arriving and the host is still trying to get Windows 7 installed.

    40. Re:First post... by genericpoweruser · · Score: 2, Informative

      Firstly, it is newer technology. It includes drivers for modern hardware (XP kinda sucks on my laptop, as I recall). Security is vastly improved (granted, people who won't want to switch are probably the same people who know how to make Windows secure) with things like UAC, which has been upgraded from the Vista version to behave more like sudo (it only asks once per 15 minutes or so). It looks a lot nicer and supports DirectX 10. Many parts 'under the hood' have been improved, such as improving performance by suspending background tasks when a fullscreen app (i.e. game) is running. And of course it has a much more modern interface that I find rather easy on the eyes (though still years behind Compiz Fusion *sigh*), which to me is somewhat important.

      The only thing I don't like is that god-awful "ribbon" in Office (and other MS programs)--but fortunately OpenOffice.org runs just fine.

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    41. Re:First post... by willutah · · Score: 2

      I couldn't get the word 'scientology' out of my head when watching this

      I was thinking "Amway"

      I was thinking "Tupperware"

    42. Re:First post... by EdIII · · Score: 5, Funny

      After watching the clock on the oven behind them lurch around between 3:00 and 5:00 I have an awful headache, and my eyes and ears are starting to bleed. I think I need to find a constant.

      There is a simple explanation. While you are watching the video time ceases to have any meaning. The laws of physics and nature are rent asunder and you are thrown into a reality in which only you and that video exists.

      What you may, or may not, realize... is that the clock is different for every person. It represents an unconscious awareness of something very wrong.

      Be happy you have seen the clock. Sadly, some people don't even see it and don't even realize what has happened to them. Like many poor victims they have been traumatically wrenched from this reality and cannot understand, will not understand, what has happened to them. Shoved violently across existence into a sea of un-time they will experience this state of agony forever.

      A work of evil worthy of the old gods it is.

    43. Re:First post... by isaac338 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      One thing that strikes me about my mac is that it doesn't treat me like an enormous retard. I don't have stupid little dogs popping up to "find" files for me, I don't have to click through 5 warnings about how what I'm about to do will end the world when I try to navigate out of my home directory, and the whole experience isn't dumbed down to the level of a 2 year old.

      Yes, I know you can turn all that shit off in windows, but why do I have to? Every time I use a windows computer it leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

    44. Re:First post... by rs79 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "One table top centerpiece for decoration"

      A centerpiece? A fucking centerpiece? Really?

      The BSD party kit is so much easier. Weed and sunglasses.

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    45. Re:First post... by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Occam's Razor suggests a simpler explanation: Vid is fucking stupid.

    46. Re:First post... by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Depends on how much beer there is at that party.

      That suggests a great marketing strategy for Linux: Throw Linux kegger parties next door to the W7 parties. Motto: Get smashed with Tux.

    47. Re:First post... by cerberusss · · Score: 5, Funny

      A work of evil worthy of the old gods it is.

      They are among us and they are on the internet.

      Let me tell you a story.

      Stacy Griffith, 15, liked frequenting chat rooms online. One day, she met a funny, goofy boy who was deep and intelligent. They talked all the time and eventually, they decided they were going to meet up at a mall in Stacy's home town.

      Only when they met, Stacy realized he was no boy.

      It was motherfucking Cthulhu. Holy fucking shit.

      5,000 Americal girls lose their sanity to Cthulhu each year. Stop online predatation from Great Old Ones before it can start. Educate your children about Cthulhu today.

      (Seen on Wil Wheaton's blog.)

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    48. Re:First post... by CarpetShark · · Score: 2, Funny

      Competition between OS's?

      Not if it's rigged.

    49. Re:First post... by mjwx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      One thing that strikes me about my mac is that it doesn't treat me like an enormous retard. I don't have stupid little dogs popping up to "find" files for me

      I'd say the complete opposite, when I work on a Mac, the OS assumes it knows everything I want to do and automatically sets it up that way. Woe betide me if I actually prefer doing things my way or heaven forbid, actually know what I'm doing better then the OS.

      Windows and Linux on the other hand assume that I have a modicum of intelligence and present me with choices. All the annoying pop ups can be turned off. The entire UI can be replaced. The OS can be re purposed for almost anything, with Apple I have the Mac Way(TM) or the Mac Way(TM) as it assumes I'm not smart enough to make up my own mind. Windows and Linux don't hide anything from the user although Windows restricts access to one or two area's (the CSC cache) but OS X sees fit to hide most of the file system from the user.

      The level of customisability of a Mac is nil, this is reflected in it's presence in the business world (or lack there of) as it's limited to the few vocations it is set up for in the first place. OS X is not set up or friendly to any kind of power user.

      I don't have to click through 5 warnings about how what I'm about to do will end the world when I try to navigate out of my home directory,

      Odd you should bring this up as OS X decides that the entire world outside your user profile doesn't exist. Granted there are no warning when you try to access it via the GUI, in fact there is no accessing the file system using the GUI. OS X provides you with a sand box for you to play in and hides the rest, at least Windows gives you the benefit of the doubt and asks if you know what you are doing. The same goes for hidden files/folders as well.

      Yes I know you can access it via the command line, but should I have to?

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    50. Re:First post... by Stuarticus · · Score: 3, Funny

      Unfortunately parties are not water soluble, to properly rehydrate you should use a mixture of water and a minimum of 5% C2H5OH.
      Stronger solutions may increase the rate of rehydration, but can lead to runaway exothermic parties. Discretion is advised.

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    51. Re:First post... by tehcyder · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think someone with a webcam on an Ubuntu netbook made that 'advertisement' to spite M$...

      But everyone knows that only Windows XP runs a netbook properly, there's no way you'd get Ubuntu to work a webcam unless it was at 2fps, in grainy black and white and with no sound.

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    52. Re:First post... by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 3, Informative

      OS X is not set up or friendly to any kind of power user.

      Go to any technical convention and count notebooks. I think you'll find that a majority of hardcore geeks disagree with you.

      Odd you should bring this up as OS X decides that the entire world outside your user profile doesn't exist. Granted there are no warning when you try to access it via the GUI, in fact there is no accessing the file system using the GUI.

      WTF are you on about? Open the Finder. Click the topmost icon in the left column - that's your local hard drive. Now explore as you see fit.

      I'm typing this on Ubuntu - I usually pick Linux+KDE when given the choice of desktops - but have been around Macs enough to know that you've never actually touched one.

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    53. Re:First post... by JohnFen · · Score: 2, Informative

      They've chosen a slightly retro, awkward and geeky theme to these adverts, and trust me, the awkwardness is intentional (Remember Bill Gates and Seinfeld?).

      Slightly? I suppose, in the same sense that nitroglycerin is slightly unstable.

      This campaign reminds me of movies that are intended from the outset to be good camp, but just end up plumbing the depths of horribleness without any redeeming qualities at all.

    54. Re:First post... by StikyPad · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, Windows sucks. Well, except that it's the only viable platform for PC gaming. And there's a plethora of software available. And the Win7 UI is nice and shiny and easy to use. And it's easy to disable the frills if you prefer performance over appearance. And it's not tied to hardware. And it's easy to develop on. And it's quite stable -- at least on par with any Mac, despite myths to the contrary. And its ubiquity all but guarantees that you'll find answers to your questions and/or support for your problems. And there's hardware drivers for pretty much any third party peripheral ever made (cause when there's not, lots and lots of people throw fits and refuse to buy Vista). And 64-bit support is not a "work in progress." And it's dead simple to find almost any codec. And NTFS is fast and robust. And it's easy to administer. And being familiar with it will unlock, by far, more job opportunities than any other OS.

      But aside from that stuff, yeah.. Windows sucks and people who use it are poor and/or dumb.

  2. Funny. by Anonymatt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Come on, this video is complex, challenging art.

  3. Im waiting for the President to weigh in... by ihatewinXP · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Have Leo Laporte and the TWiT's had their Windows 7 party yet?

    He said that they were signing up (2 weeks ago?) and would receive among other things: Windows 7 themed balloons, napkins and cups.

    Wow, Microsoft.... Just, wow...

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    1. Re:Im waiting for the President to weigh in... by CannonballHead · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wow, Microsoft.... Just, wow...

      It got attention. Isn't that the point of marketing?

      And I dare say MS wasn't expecting to convert slashdot posters with usernames like "ihatewinXP" to using Windows 7 with these ads... :)

    2. Re:Im waiting for the President to weigh in... by pohl · · Score: 4, Funny

      A shooting spree at the local mall gets media attention too, but I wouldn't want it associated with my brand.

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    3. Re:Im waiting for the President to weigh in... by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It got attention. Isn't that the point of marketing?

      Not entirely. Take the Taco Bell Dog as an example. From Snopes:

      In July 2000 fast food giant Taco Bell (a subsidiary of Yum! Brands, Inc.) did the ostensibly unthinkable: it abruptly ended what appeared to be a highly successful ad campaign that had worked to establish this memorable brand identity. Seemingly out of the blue, the corporation announced it would no longer feature the wise-cracking Chihuahua in its ads. Though the Taco Bell dog might make cameo appearances in subsequent commercials, he was being retired as company spokespooch.

      The reason behind the move was simple enough: the dog, though beloved of consumers, wasn't working magic on the company's bottom line. Though Taco Bell had succeeded in creating a cultural icon, the resultant symbol wasn't inspiring a great enough segment of the fast food-buying public to make a run for the border. Same-store sales were down 6 percent in the second quarter of 2000, a result the company could only regard as alarming and a certain sign that changes had to be made.

      So while Microsoft's marketing may bring smiles to churro vendors everywhere, it doesn't mean the attention is really getting anything for Microsoft.

    4. Re:Im waiting for the President to weigh in... by dangitman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It got attention. Isn't that the point of marketing? And I dare say MS wasn't expecting to convert slashdot posters with usernames like "ihatewinXP" to using Windows 7 with these ads... :)

      Selling more product, or raising your brand's identity is the point of marketing. This does the opposite. The point of this story is that it's not just slashdot folk who are hearing about this - it's all over the mainstream media. The problem (for Microsoft) is that the Windows 7 launch is supposed to remove the negative associations that Vista caused people to have. For a while, the "buzz on the street" was that Windows 7 is actually a decent OS, unlike Vista. But as soon as the average person sees this House Party video, they are going to be very suspicious that Windows 7 is nothing but marketing hype, and may not actually be a decent OS after all. That's very bad for Microsoft, especially after the success they've had in viral marketing of Windows 7 so far.

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  4. Microsoft is pure genius by cjfs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most advertisements only evoke one or two emotions. This one manages to make me feel despair, disgust, fear, and rage, all at the same time.

    They've truly taken it to the next level.

    1. Re:Microsoft is pure genius by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Funny

      wait until you try the OS.

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    2. Re:Microsoft is pure genius by cjfs · · Score: 4, Insightful

      wait until you try the OS.

      I've been using it for several months, it's definitely not as bad as their marketing.

    3. Re:Microsoft is pure genius by kallisti777 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Read the Guardian article. What you're feeling is called "shitasmia".

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    4. Re:Microsoft is pure genius by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This one manages to make me feel despair, disgust, fear, and rage, all at the same time.

      ...and yet, there's something like a 90% chance that you will buy their product (just a guess based on the current usage share of windows, not necessarily a /. reader). Does it matter that it's a horrible marketing attempt if the goal of the company is still accomplished?

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    5. Re:Microsoft is pure genius by KillerBob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While you're likely to shoot me down without bothering to look at what's being said, I'd like to point something out to you:

      when cifs said that he'd been using it for several months, and that it wasn't bad, you decided that because he installed a beta OS from MS, he automatically didn't count.

      What you're overlooking is that you have no idea the circumstances under which he's using it. He could be using it in a virtual machine. He could be dual-booting with another OS. He could actually be using the beta for its intended purpose: to test it. To see if he can break it. To see if it's actually functional. You have no way of knowing what other systems he's using, or what other computers he's got.

      And even if he is using it as his primary OS, has it ocurred to you to ask why he's using it over some of the alternatives? This is Slashdot. Is it really possible to be a user here and not know what Linux is, or OS/X, or BSD, or Solaris? Even in passing, I'd say that most of the reader base here has tried at least one of the above at some point in time, and that a significant portion of them are using one or more of those alternative OSes right now as we speak.

      Considering that he's probably well aware of the options available to him, why is he using Win7? Honestly, chalking it up to fanboi-ism is selling yourself short. You'd do well to try it out in a VM and see what it's actually about before you spout off mindless drivel like you just did. If you're going to shoot down his choice to use Win7, do it on a point-by-point basis, explaining exactly why one of the alternatives is better. And "it's free" isn't really a dealbreaker... neither is DRM, really, since I can still play downloaded MP3's, downloaded OGG/Vorbis, downloaded divx and xvid videos, and was able to do all of the above without ever going off and finding codecs. When I opened the file, it was already associated with WMP, and WMP was able to find the codec for me. While there's DRM in the OS, it isn't slowing things down significantly for me, and it isn't interfering with my ability to do what I want with the computer. I could see it causing you issues if you were trying to rip DVDs or Blu-rays, but most of us won't be affected by it.

      As for myself, I needed to do an OS reinstall on my gaming machine about a month and a half ago. As I've got an MSDN subscription (was a benefit from a job I had a while back, and they "forgot" to disable it), I downloaded and installed the RTM version of 64-bit Windows 7. It starts up faster than XP (MCE 2005) did on my machine, it's more responsive, and it's got a heck of a lot more eye candy. I decided to keep it, and have been using it, quite happily, on that system ever since. As for the tweaked/redesigned UI, I find that I'm quite comfortable with it, and that I really enjoy the updates they've made. It's not perfect, but no OS is. I would say, from experience, that it's about on a par with OS/X (only 10 years late!), as well as KDE4 and XFCE.

      The thing is... for the first time, ever, in my experience with Windows, I don't feel like I'm fighting with the OS to achieve even simple tasks. Things just work. (on that note, every piece of my laptop's hardware worked out of the box, and the only driver I had to install was the video card). It's responsive enough, and it just gets out of my way and lets me do things, without cluttering up my screen with useless crap and warnings.

      And the system in question is by no means top of the line, either. It's got a T5450 processor (1.66GHz Core2Duo), 2GB of RAM, a 120GB 7200rpm laptop hard drive, and a 256MB GeForce 8600M GT.

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    6. Re:Microsoft is pure genius by node+3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      wait until you try the OS.

      I've been using it for several months, it's definitely not as bad as their marketing.

      I remember hearing this about Vista, pre-launch as well.

      The only real difference here is that Windows 7 has Vista to compare against, which can only make it look good. Additionally, new PCs will really require Windows Vista/7 to take full advantage of the hardware (or, perhaps XP64, which is too problematic to be mainstream). I'd wager, though, that hardware consideration aside, average consumers would rather run XP than Windows 7.

    7. Re:Microsoft is pure genius by node+3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      ...and yet, there's something like a 90% chance that you will buy their product

      Far fewer than 90% of people actually ever buy a Windows product. They may buy a PC (still, nowhere near 90%, but I'm not going to quibble here), but they generally *aren't* particularly set on Windows specifically.

      Does it matter that it's a horrible marketing attempt if the goal of the company is still accomplished?

      MS's goal isn't met, hence the ads. They want everyone to run out and buy Windows 7. This won't happen. They want PC makers to not sell Linux. This won't happen. They want Apple to fail. This won't happen. Calling 90% (or whatever) to be MS's goal is like running with football, then drawing an end zone around the spot where you were tackled.

    8. Re:Microsoft is pure genius by cjfs · · Score: 4, Funny

      What you're overlooking is that you have no idea the circumstances under which he's using it. He could be using it in a virtual machine. He could be dual-booting with another OS. He could actually be using the beta for its intended purpose: to test it. To see if he can break it. To see if it's actually functional. You have no way of knowing what other systems he's using, or what other computers he's got.

      I originally had debian, xp, and openbsd running on my three main computers. I found that in order to hack the gibsons I needed more power, so I installed my zero-day windows 7 on all of them. With my newly acquired megahertz I just cruised right through the firewalls, disabled the ai, and floated off into cyberspace.

      I hope this clears things up. Now can I come back to the Slashdot cool table?

    9. Re:Microsoft is pure genius by KillerBob · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Out of curiosity, did you *have* to install a video card driver, or did you just want to install the one from nVidia's website instead of using the one on Windows Update?

      I installed the one direct from nVidia's website because I was getting jaggies and screen flickering in some video games.... Out of the box, it had a perfectly adequate 2D driver and was able to use the display at the native 1680x1050 resolution, but 3D performance was non-existant.

      I also prefer not to install drivers from Windows Update. I like knowing exactly which version of a driver I have installed, and I don't like replacing drivers unless I'm having an issue that needs to be addressed. If it ain't broke, don't fix it and all. :)

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  5. What is with the camera work?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I threw up due to the fast pans and edits long before the content made me barf. AG

  6. Ratings disabled? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I wonder why...

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  7. Corny Much... by BeaverAndrew · · Score: 3, Funny

    White Guy: "Of course the first thing you're going to do is install Windows 7." Group: *Laughs* (Like we're going to do that.)

    1. Re:Corny Much... by pintpusher · · Score: 2, Funny

      Black Guy: "Can you believe Microsoft put the launch of windows 7 in our hands?!"
      Group: *laughs*
      Black Guy: "Are they nuts or what?!"
      Group: *laughs*
      White Guy: "(maybe|only)*** by letting you be involved!"
      Group: "ooh harsh!"

      If only they had followed up with

      Black Guy: *pounds White Guy for being a jerk*
      White Guy: *screams like a girl while blood gushes from his nose*
      Women: *laughs*

      it would have avoided

      Me: *pukes*

      ***unintelligible

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  8. YouTube Comments Disabled by bughunter · · Score: 4, Funny

    I like how they disabled comments on the video.

    Because, of course, the video's obvious coolness needed no acknowledgment from the viewers.

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  9. NPR weighed in by Peter+Simpson · · Score: 4, Informative

    Heard it on All Things Considered on the way home tonight. They played a clip from the "how to give a party" video. There were several comments about how MS's marketing dept had missed the target again.

  10. Look at the Bright Side by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    I remember for the Heinz Ketchup creativity contest they had recently there were a bunch of videos they kept removing despite them getting a lot of votes. Like this one that showed a wicked old lady chugging ketchup and then at the end she holds the bottle up and smiles and has this awesome snaggletooth grin with missing teeth.

    So Microsoft will have to put with questionable content and I'll be there to vote it up and love it. Example:

    *man sits behind TV set with only shoulders and head visible and upper arm working vigorously while expressions of joy cross his face*
    Narrator: So there I was watching some kitten snuff films before my friends arrived for the Win7 Launch party.
    *doorbell rings, narrator gets up to open door behind which are three guys with sunglasses on and a white powder visibly smeared across their upper lips*
    Narrator: Guys, what's the deal, where are the hookers?
    Christian Slater Sounding Partier: Yeah, Fred, about that, we had a little accident. One of the hookers got a bit lippy and they're not gonna make it.
    Narrator: They're coming later?
    Christian Slater Sounding Partier: Just make sure you don't leave any fingerprints on your dumpster if you go there tonight.
    Narrator: Awesome, well, you all brought your stolen laptops so let's fire 'em up and start doing something better than snorting coke and killing hookers: installing Win7.

    Remember, it's not just the comments that are impressively stupid on YouTube. There's also videos. Opening up your company to a video contest? Yeah, I'll be searching YouTube for "Win7 Launch Party REJECTED."

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    1. Re:Look at the Bright Side by gblackwo · · Score: 5, Informative

      Why was this modded funny? I don't get it.

    2. Re:Look at the Bright Side by gblackwo · · Score: 4, Informative

      I was being sarcastic not informative!

    3. Re:Look at the Bright Side by eldavojohn · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Anyone have a link to that heinz video?

      I tried hard to find it as I got a kick out of it but came up empty handed. I do have a link to our discussion on this as well as from there you can see that the videos were deleted on YouTube and have broken links on the NY Times. If only the NY Times was ballsy enough to cache them locally in the name of journalism :) Unfortunately there's not much left in the name of journalism these days ...

      Also, if anyone has Don Hertzfeldt's e-mail address I'd chuck $20 at a paypal fund to commission him to make a video for a Win7 launch party. I mean his video for Johnson's Bean Lard (now with 50% more sodium!) made me want to purchase it.

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    4. Re:Look at the Bright Side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think /.'s view of what is funny has been shattered; and thusly now everything is marked informative or insightful.

  11. Good thing these bad commercials... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...are not generating any free press for Microsoft.

    1. Re:Good thing these bad commercials... by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Excellent point. Because, after all, Microsoft has such a hard time generating free press. What they really need now is to get their name out there no matter what connotation is involved with it. Once that happens, THEN they can worry about image.

  12. New Weight Loss program Discovered by A+Wise+Guy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have seriously thrown up and lost 10 pounds of food from my intestines including water. You too can achieve rapid weight loss.

  13. This is nothing new by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 5, Funny
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    1. Re:This is nothing new by Adammil2000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The Windows 1.0 video was intentionally a joke video made for the annual company meeting shown to employees.

    2. Re:This is nothing new by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Except in Nebraska!"

      Crap. I wish they'd saved that restriction until now so I could avoid this latest iteration.

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  14. It looks like even they know it sucks... by Jahava · · Score: 5, Insightful

    T=5:43: Can you believe that Microsoft put the launch of Windows 7 in our hands? Couldn't have said it better myself. I love the token nerd, attractive woman, old-but-hip person, and black guy. It's like they hired marketing undergraduates to design the video.

    1. Re:It looks like even they know it sucks... by db32 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or the interns they gave the police escort to. What no one talked about was that it was actually a prisoner transport.

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    2. Re:It looks like even they know it sucks... by randomsearch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Seriously people, is there anyone that doesn't think this is one of the most brilliant pieces of ironic viral marketing?

      This discussion is all over the web, the print press and radio. It's absolute genius. Almost everyone knows there is a new version of windows coming out. Many will watch the video, which mentions various aspects of Windows 7.

      Presumably, the comments on YouTube were disabled in order to preserve the ambiguity of the video.

      If you haven't watched the whole clip, it becomes more obvious towards the end. The dead giveaway is the "can you believe they've left the launch of windows 7 to us" etc. quote.

      Kudos to MS, this puts even Apple's marketing in the shade.

      It seems MS will not be able to fully admit the ad is ironic now, as they'd make a lot of journalists look quite foolish.

      And no, I am not being ironic!

      RS

  15. Oh my god did that suck!!!!! by mikeiver1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I could not get through even 30 seconds of it and I am in shame for that. I would rather light my ball hairs on fire and have a bondage trans sexual primordial dwarf beat the fire out with a sledge hammer than have to watch another second of that bowel evacuating drivel! The camera work sucks too. Mike

    1. Re:Oh my god did that suck!!!!! by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I was about 10 seconds, and this was without audio. The camera work is that of a douche, the camera is always panning at least a little bit, and there were too many stupid snap zooms. I realize this has become popular lately, but I start feeling like I'm getting tipsy.

      The whole concept is deranged, if you're putting on a party, don't do it for marketing someone else's product. Heck, any kind of product party is deranged, it says to the invitees that you're so bored, you'll attend a thinly veiled product pitch. And the host? They get a copy of Windows 7, a few napkins and streamers. Dude, don't sell yourself out for napkins.

  16. Tuppaware party? by Freaky+Spook · · Score: 4, Funny

    It wasn't until I was 1/2 way through the video where it dawned on me that they were discussing throwing a party to introduce their friends to all the cool new things that Windows 7 can offer.

    Either Microsoft is planning on selling Windows 7 like tuppaware or what I just watched was the introduction to a very bad porno.

    1. Re:Tuppaware party? by frosty_tsm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Either Microsoft is planning on selling Windows 7 like tuppaware or what I just watched was the introduction to a very bad porno.

      Just think of how many different interests can be satisfied with this cast.

  17. Missed porn opportunity. by NoYob · · Score: 2, Funny

    Come on, this video is complex, challenging art.

    I was hoping to see a bunch of anal sex with the caption being, "Hey, you got it up the ass with Vista be prepared for Windows 7!"

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    1. Re:Missed porn opportunity. by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, now. 7 runs much more smoothly than Vista - they used lube this time.

  18. Probably an emergency measure by Google... by Jahava · · Score: 3, Funny

    I wonder why...

    My guess is that they were originally enabled, but Google didn't have the bandwidth to process the torrent of 0.0 votes.

    1. Re:Probably an emergency measure by Google... by lptport1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's ironic that they're using YouTube, a Google service, to perpetrate this masterpiece on civilization.

      It really does instigate a wash of emotions, and it amazes me that anyone can discern individual feelings out of watching it. To quote the awesomest six year old I know, it was "awkweird".

    2. Re:Probably an emergency measure by Google... by selven · · Score: 4, Funny

      Integer underflow most likely.

  19. Really criticism from the newspapers by redmid17 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They think they're on solid ground to criticize the marketing of a company that actually made money last year? Let me know the the newspapers entice their readership back to levels that are slightly above the number of people who'll read my post.

  20. Ratings were disabled for the video by syntap · · Score: 2, Funny

    I wonder why, they were ashamed of it as soon as they posted it.

    I actually watched the whole thing... you guys didn't, so you didn't see the older lady and the oldest lady erupt into passionate lesbian sex. The dudes pulled out weapons and began close-quarters combat. The video ended with the Mac guy emerging from stage right and saying "pwn3d".

    1. Re:Ratings were disabled for the video by Anonymusing · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now THAT would be a party!

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  21. S3x by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...quoted as saying 'If Microsoft had been put in charge of marketing sex, the human race would have ended long ago

    Blue-Balls of Death, eh?
       

  22. I think it's a brilliant video. by flibuste · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This thing is so vomit-inducing that everyone is talking about it and many who would not have watched the video actually did. As a case of viral marketing, I'd say it is brilliant. Few viruses can make you puke just by looking at them.

    1. Re:I think it's a brilliant video. by Sparton · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Few viruses can make you puke just by looking at them.

      Yeah, but hasn't Windows viruses been one of the things they're hated for?..

  23. Pundits Hate Tux the Linux Penguin, Too by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hell, *I* hate Tux the Penguin. Nothing screams Dork in a College Dorm Room louder than Tux. (OK, maybe a Middle Earth poster...) But the goofy little guy endures, so he must be reaching somebody in the target audience who's not me and the pundits. Maybe this Win7 ad reaches the same key demographic.

    Of course, the preceding argument presumes that Linux has some kind of unified and organized marketing program. Which is, y'know, ridiculous...

    1. Re:Pundits Hate Tux the Linux Penguin, Too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Neither Tux nor this Windows 7 commercial come close to the shame that is the Martinettis bring home a computer infomercial that Apple made in the 90s.

  24. Anybody notice the clock on the stove by MisterFuRR · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wow...it took them over 3hrs to film that short 6 minute PSA. Not only was it horrible, but the actors involved didn't even believe what they were pitching.

  25. Re:And yet... by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Here you are talking about Windows 7.

    No, we're making fun of the video and the asshats in Microsoft Marketing. No one is talking about the OS at all. This could make it so unhip to use it that Apple gains significant market share regardless of the merits of the new system.

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  26. Ah Microsoft. by tthomas48 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They really should have let the product market itself. Because for once they have a halfway decent product. Remember when they said Vista was as good as OSX? And then we used Vista and perhaps we should have treated their marketing campaign like a child with mental deficiencies? Like it's not polite to laugh at them, because they are trying...

    But Windows 7 is actually the product Vista was supposed to be. But they're trying to sell it as something new. The only way that Microsoft could market this is, "Yeah, Windows Vista sucks ass. The UI didn't make sense, and it was often slow for no apparent reason. We'll acknowledge that now that we have a replacement. We know that almost every computer shipped with Vista has been converted to Windows XP. Here's the produce that fixes all those problems."

    The only way to regain consumer trust is to admit your faults. Or just say nothing and let consumers do your advertising for you. I can already see the tweets - "Windows 7 not a steaming pile of dogshit!". That's the kind of grassroots movement that sells software.

    1. Re:Ah Microsoft. by registrar · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Not even. Essentially what they are doing is kickstarting a quality viral campaign. Snigger all you want at the ad, that's what they want you do do. They produce ads that are so embarrassing that the message is really clear: "oh, did you see the lame ad, these guys should stick to doing what they do best, which is programming. Win 7 is actually quite good you know."

      The implied contrast is: "Apple is all about good marketing."

      Let's face it: we geeks all do the same thing. When you show up with your dirty beard, beer gut, suspenders, blackened coffee mug, you are telling the world "everyone values my competence so much that I don't need to sell myself via superficial means."

      Same with Zunes and squirting and all that.

    2. Re:Ah Microsoft. by dangitman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Essentially what they are doing is kickstarting a quality viral campaign. Snigger all you want at the ad, that's what they want you do do.

      Utter bullshit. That was not the intention with this. It was meant earnestly.

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  27. Re:What's the target audience think? by skine · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Who are they marketing to?

  28. How Apple Would Have Frosted This Dog Turd by Crash+Culligan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If apple had have done the same thing it would be marketing genius ..

    No, if Apple had done this, it would still have sucked. It would take more than "genius" to make this pitch work, it would take "omnipotence." In fact, if the marketers at Apple really are geniuses, I would expect them never ever to try a campaign as hokey as this.

    If anything, Apple sells only the style and solidity of the hardware and the utility of the software, and downplays the operating system because it exists only as a facilitator to the other things you want to do with the computer. It really is a case where you want to sell the sizzle instead of the steak, because the steak is boring.

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  29. Fools by Greyfox · · Score: 5, Funny
    They're in need of some serious help here. Ok Microsoft, I feel so bad for your social ineptitude that this one's for free.

    Windows 7 themed jello shots, strippers and potato cannons.

    You can thank me later.

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  30. Get the stones again by Twillerror · · Score: 2, Funny

    The start me up campaign was pretty good if I remember.

    Get AC/DC or something. Something Thunderstruck or Back in Black.

    Then go hire a music video guy to do some funky video where everyone's face turns into a window.

    Why is this so hard?

  31. Re:What's the target audience think? by arodland · · Score: 4, Funny

    Microsoft is the new Tupperware?

  32. I think I just saw Microsoft implode by popo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... if the creative decision-making behind the actual software is as utterly lost and out-of-touch as this video ...

    well... start the countdown: implosion in 10,9,8,7...

    this is easily the worst promotion I have ever seen. Microsoft, please for the love of god fire your ad agency. There is 'incompetent', and then there's this extra-special, groundbreaking new plateau of retarded-ness.

    I didn't think it was possible to kill Windows 7 with a single video -- BUT IT JUST HAPPENED.

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  33. but... it's perfect by speedtux · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The video is perfect. The video correctly represent Windows 7 and its design philosophy. And it evokes the same feelings in me that using Windows does.

    Congratulations!

  34. Obligatory XKCD by Smartcowboy · · Score: 5, Funny
  35. Yeah, and? by NoYob · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, and? We were all talking about Vista too and that affected sales, how again?

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  36. Re:What's the target audience think? by yurtinus · · Score: 3, Funny

    Fortunately I don't have to use it. I have Debian.

    This is the part where you hop on your motorcycle and wheelie the f out of there, right? RIGHT!?!?

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  37. Exactly what they wanted. by Fusione · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's so terrible, I feel compelled to send it to everyone I know so they can see its glory. Well played, Microsoft.. Well played. -_-

  38. Someone needs to do a Linux party video.... by NoYob · · Score: 2, Funny

    Have strippers, a keg, taking sledgehammers to Windows machines, you get the idea.

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  39. I was literally more nauseated by this than... by motherpusbucket · · Score: 2, Insightful

    watching 'two girls, one cup'. At least that one held my interest as well as repulsing me.

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  40. Re:Clock! by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's the new episode from Brannon Braga!

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/97929/flashforward-no-more-good-days

    "For 2 minutes and seventeen seconds, we all blacked out..."
    "We didn't black out sir, we were ... in the future!"
    "What did you see?"
    "It was too horrible to talk about."
    "Come on honey... What was it?"
    "I was STILL at the release party!"

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  41. lol by D-R0C · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here is an improved version of the commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imd1_39pLAM

    1. Re:lol by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 2, Informative

      Dude... thanks for linking at last to a version that's actually funny rather than that lame 'if we bleep it out it sounds like she said fuck' version.

  42. Guys, this is called viral marketing. by blhack · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's viral marketing. They know that nobody is going to have one of these idiotic "launch parties".

    They've intentionally made the worst ad they could (while still making it somehow realistic enough for people to buy it) in order to get people to talk about windows 7.

    I did not know when the launch-date for this was. This ad has been posted on all of the major tech-news blogs. Now I do. Mission accomplished.

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  43. Re:However by m.ducharme · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't buy that. If your press tarnishes your brand, it's not good press. If people start laughing at your product, because of your shitty ads, that's not good for your product. It's not enough to get your name out there (who hasn't heard of Microsoft, or Windows?) you have to add some sparkle to your brand or you're wasting your money. Microsoft has gotten very bad at this lately.

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  44. Re:What's the target audience think? by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > Ah, but the 21st century has television only dreamt of in the previous
    > century...

    I saw some 21st century television a few years back when I was visiting my father. It has not improved.

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  45. Re:What's the target audience think? by Landshark17 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Microsoft is the new Tupperware?

    Tupperware: Hard to open and full of food that was new a long time ago.

    Windows: Slow to open and full of stuff that was new a long time ago (on Macs).

    So pretty much true, exept without the freshness.

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  46. Re:What's the target audience think? by dr00g911 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    People who aren't cool enough for a Mac. Haven't you seen laptop hunters?

    In fact, they're marketing to people who have enormous chips on their shoulders about being so entirely uncool (or poor) for Macs.

    I jest. They're talking to themselves. Microsoft's insecurities have been laid utterly bare in all their marketing attempts for a decade.

    There was a joint interview with Jobs and Gates not too long ago that I'm too lazy to dig up, and a question was asked "what do you envy about the other" -- Gates' answer came off as snide, yet honest: "I wish I had your taste"

    They've been at this since the Zune came out and they started marketing to the Wal-Mart demographic. Because Wal-Mart folks like brown things that work almost sorta as well as an iPod at the same price. Because you're not cool enough for an iPod, and you've got a chip on your shoulder about it.

    The weird part is... that demographic's pretty much stuck with MS out of ignorance, and MS is tilting at windmills whenever they go against apple. They inevitably end up looking as insane (and sad) as Don Quixote himself.

    They're trying so hard to astroturf these days, build a viral movement. I'm not sure they understand that apart from a handful of lunatics/idiots/middle managers out there, there is nobody on earth who actually likes Microsoft. Maybe they do understand, and they're trying to overcompensate?

    Their messaging isn't helping any.

    So, as a career advertising guy (15 years & counting) I don't get it either.

    Round about Vista/Zune, MS and their various agencies of record starting shooting themselves in the foot. I'm here to tell you Crispin/Porter is a great, kooky agency... but they just can't speak to the Wal-Mart moms that MS thinks they're in danger of losing.

    Microsoft's achilles heels are Office (in the near term) and Mobile (in the long term). If they lose control over file formats and Exchange lock-in, Microsoft as we know it gets pushed over their tipping point. Over the long term, so many of our common tasks will be moving to mobiles or embedded devices instead of PCs -- and MS let Mobile languish as a steaming pile for the better part of a decade.

    But now they're just shitting out me-too copies of consumer electronics.

    Maybe the whole thing is misdirection? I don't think so, but there has to be a few smart folks at that company who can see the forest for the trees.

  47. Top 10 Windows 7 Launch Party games! by merc · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apologies in advance to David Letterman:

    * Pin the tail on the Ballmer

    * Simon says "UAC needs your permission to continue"

    * Monopoly

    * Your files in a haystack

    * Twenty clippy questions

    * Musical thrown chairs

    * Darl McBride pinata

    * Red Light, Green Light, Blue Screen

    * DRM may I?

    * Phone Home Scruples

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  48. As per usual, nobody is getting it. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People are asking, "How could Microsoft, with all its wealth and power, produce such a stupid series of ads?"

    Because they're smarter than you?

    --Because they have enough wealth and power to hire one of the smartest public relations firms on the planet. Waggener Edstrom is the same firm in charge of the Fox Channels. If there's any one thing they know how to do, it's identify a market and then lock down that market forever and ever and sell them whatever the hell 'truth' they feel like selling.

    Here's a small clip from a page I found after about 10 seconds of Google searching. . .

    "Microsoft's primary public-relations firm, Waggener Edstrom.

    Like many tech PR firms, WaggEd also monitors religiously Twitter trends involving its biggest client. On March 11, WaggEd went beyond simply monitoring tweets: It introduced a beta version of a software tool for monitoring and analyzing them.

    Do they sound stupid now?

    My guess is that they're doing three things with this ad. . .

    1. They're trying to tap into a universal feeling of awkwardness that everybody feels when recalling a "PCP" party. (Parents, Chips and Pop). They're doing this because awkward, painful feelings open up memory centers. Information given during a period of high anxiety gets locked into place in the human mind. This is a well-known and often-used ploy in mind control. The information being served up in these ads is NOT how to run your software or all the features offered by their OS, but that "WINDOWS 7 EXISTS AND IT IS UBIQUITOUS AND YOU, AS A PACK ANIMAL HAD BETTER GET WITH THE PROGRAM OR RISK EXPULSION FROM THE HERD!!!!"

    2. Trying to tap into the feeling of safety and love which people also feel when they think of their parents and the silly birthday parties thrown for them when they were little. Why? Because an OS is the bedrock upon which you ground your entire computer existence, --the same way your parents provided the bedrock for your adult behavior sets. You might think your parents were stupid and annoying, and you probably want to deny it, but the truth of the matter is that most people grow up to become their parents.

    3. Go viral. --Using such deliberate tactics designed to rope in the lower echelon of geeks, such as stove clocks which are obviously bouncing around 'wrong' in exactly the kind of way geeks like to point out and be "Right" about. Fuck, fuck, FUCK! There's a whole sick cultural system through which people who like computer technology were warped into that "Look! I'm RIGHT!" head-space, and you had better believe that clock "error" was on purpose so as to lock them in. Low-hanging fruit.

    So, please, for goodness sake, try to think outside of the bloody box when approaching the toxic waste which is advertising! If you fall for this kind of stupid shit, then you're nothing but slaves who deserve to be used and abused, and you WILL be.

    Sorry for the harsh language, but this is important.

    -FL

    1. Re:As per usual, nobody is getting it. by ComaVN · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My thoughts exactly. It's the same thing as those ads with deliberatly crappy lighting, camera angles and sound.

      There really is no such thing as bad publicity.

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    2. Re:As per usual, nobody is getting it. by bit01 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yep. I'd say they're also trying for "we're amateurs at parties so that must mean we're professionals at business" thing going and a "we don't waste money on unprofessional eye candy like apple" also. They've always tried to look like a conservative, professional business that has stupid office parties just like every other business.

      They also don't want people to notice that this single company is costing the world USD60,000,000,000+ per year for about a dozen programs mostly written decades ago with the most difficult bits, the device drivers, being written by third parties.

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    3. Re:As per usual, nobody is getting it. by Deefburger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Buddy, the Ad world may be mind control to you, but it is not real control. Sure, you might get that "I'm right" feeling looking at the stupid clock, but we know how film is produced, and we know it's an editing error. We know these people are actors. We also know that this scenario is so completely un-real that only a moron would even consider such a thing as a comming out party for Windows! Your mind controllers may have control over YOUR thoughts, feelings and emotions, but they missed mine by a MILE! This conspiracy of thought that they are supposedly engineering your emotional chemistry with only has an effect on you if you let it. Stop believing in the power of suggestion. Start believing in the control YOU have of YOUR mind.

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    4. Re:As per usual, nobody is getting it. by Stan+Vassilev · · Score: 2, Informative

      [reposting since Slashdot damaged the previous post]

      Because they have enough wealth and power to hire one of the smartest public relations firms on the planet. Waggener Edstrom is the same firm in charge of the Fox Channels. If there's any one thing they know how to do, it's identify a market and then lock down that market forever and ever and sell them whatever the hell 'truth' they feel like selling.

      Just a little remark: there's no company called the "Fox Channels". The Fox brand is spread over dozens of semi-independent companies of News Corp., which have little relation to each other in terms of their management and PR. Saying "Fox Something" when you deal with huge corporations is simply useless. Waggener Edstrom has been doing some work for "Fox International Channels" in particular, which are doing work broadcasting and producing shows for public outside USA.

      What is the company Microsoft previously worked with? Crispin Porter + Boguski, also considered one of the "smartest marketing firms on the planet", who have done work for Burger King, Coca Cola, American Express, Domino's and more. And now they have Microsoft on their portfolio thanks to their work few months back, which was poorly received, and mostly forgotten by now, with frequent strategy shifts, awkward moments and prematurely ending projects and relationships. This is how these "big smart marketing companies" build portfolio and you better get used to being tricked by their statements when "googling a little" as you say you do.

      As for these party ads, I enjoy how you retroactively try to explain Microsoft's decisions, but their behavior is very typical. As any person/company with vast resources, they believe the fastest and safest way to success is simply to find and hire the "top" people for lots of money. Even if the people involved in this decision knew any better, they know that getting the "top companies" is simply a less risky decision, and risk is definitely a factor when your job is on the line.

      To praphrase a sentence, "no one was fired for hiring [top company in some field]". It's also one reason why people with such vast resources frequently arrive at subpar results, because money doesn't translate into success as easily. Case in point:

      Like many tech PR firms, WaggEd also monitors religiously Twitter trends involving its biggest client. On March 11, WaggEd went beyond simply monitoring tweets: It introduced a beta version of a software tool for monitoring and analyzing them. Do they sound stupid now?

      I'm missing your point. Even I have written a tool for analyzing tweets, as I bet anyone who toyed with Twitter's API. Can I get lots of money now? All I get out of the above is that you're easily impressed by buzz-words. The amount of Second Life, Twitter and Facebook apps a marketing company has may have surprisingly little to do with how good they are at making advertising campaigns.

      Not to mention Twitter doesn't accurately reflect the kind of crowd Microsoft makes the bulk of their money with, which is enterprise and OEM deployment. Twitter is predominantly teens with too much time on their hands. Is this your example of a PR company can "identify a market and then lock down that market forever".?

      As for the psycho-babble reasons you defend the awkwardness of the ad, I have to admit, bravo. If you ever work in a marketing/PR company like Waggener Edstrom, this is exactly the kind of babble you need to sell services to clueless management. And with this insight, now you know why big companies have crappy ads: because the marketing companies they use don't need to be really good at selling products to end-users, they mostly need to be good at selling service to management.

      As for you, coming here and being indignant about why Slashdot discusses Microsoft's ads is utterly pointless. This is an echo chamber full of people who are critical of Microsoft. Echo chambers have this property of seemingly

  49. Re:The best way to use windows ... by Mr2001 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ie. what I want to do is simply mv */*xml . Very basic stuff.

    Being an ignorant *nix geek, I find this a difficult task to achieve using the GUI, so I try the MS-DOS shell, I still can't work it out, move being somewhat different to mv. And I freely admit it might be my fabled geek ignorance of Windows at work, so if anyone can give me the DOS cmd that does this ...

    for /d %i in (*) do move %i\*.xml .

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  50. I will say it again:Operating System launch party by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have been a Sys Admin for many years, I enjoy a lot what I do, still I find this concept so utterly repulsive that I can barely contain my disdain.

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  51. Re:What's the target audience think? by OwMyBrain · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Steve Balmer. He is the target audience of this ad.

                  He wants Windows to be "cool" the way Macs are.

                  He wants a trendy viral marketing campaign. Those are all the rage these days.

                  He has to sign off on major marketing campaigns for the latest and greatest update to Microsoft's flagship product.

                  He is far enough removed from reality to think that people will buy into this crap.

                  His own Windows marketing shenanigans are just as absurd as this video.

    This video is everything Steve Balmer wants out of a marketing campaign. The ad agency get's paid for doing what he wants, and he himself is a chair-throwing lunatic.

  52. Microsoft hasn't been "cool" since 1991 ... by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    However, nowadays MS seems to have lost their cool, Don't excpect them to dissapear (sic) anytime soon, but they will probably not be in as dominate position as they were back in the days.

    They lost their cool a long time ago - back when it was no longer seen to be cool to work for them,

    You might blame it on Monkeyboy, but it actually started in the developer community the early '90s, when people started to realize that perpetual death marches are an indicator that the higher-ups are clueless.