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Growing Power Gap Could Force Smartphone Tradeoffs

alphadogg writes "Mobile users face a fast-growing gap between their smartphones' increasing power needs and battery capacity. That gap could force users to make tradeoffs in how, and for what, they use their phones, even as vendors at all levels work even harder to reduce power demand in mobile devices, according to Chris Schreck, a research analyst with IMS Research. Schreck estimates that a 1500 mAh battery, the industry's current 'high water mark,' yields for many smartphone users a battery life of about 6 hours — highly dependent on what applications and on-device technologies, including Wi-Fi, users are running. The latest and greatest tech advances, including faster CPUs, higher data throughput, and improved displays all crank up the demand for power. The combination of user behavior and technology is boosting power demand faster than battery capacity can keep up. Schreck estimates power requirements can grow 15% a year."

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  1. Nobel-peas prize (green) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The android challenge should add a green-attribute somehow. Perhaps a special award to that category. Its not sexy to make the battery last longer. It takes a lot of effort and without reward, it won't happen. That is because the app appears outside the phone framework. e.g. somehow not responsible for power loss, when it is.

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    1. Re:Nobel-peas prize (green) by lysergic.acid · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's not the rate of energy release that is an issue, but rather energy density. There's also no reason why a high density (or high capacity) battery would be any less safe than low density batteries. I mean, most people are perfectly comfortable driving around in their cars, which has far more energy stored in its fuel tank than any fully-charged laptop battery—not to mention being far more volatile as well.

      Put it another way: would you be worried walking around with a piece of charcoal in your pocket? The energy density of a li-ion battery is 540 kilojoules per kilogram. The energy density of coal is 24 megajoules per kilogram. Oh, and a kilogram of fat? that's 37.7 megajoules. So batteries have quite a ways to go.

      There's no reason why we can't come up with high energy density batteries that are safe, stable, and release their energy in a controlled manner. Perhaps it can't be done with li-ion technology, but I'm sure it can be done. We just need some new breakthroughs in battery technology. But these types of revolutionary technological changes can only be effected by new knowledge gained through basic research. Unfortunately, most government funding seems to go into applied research these days.

      Lastly, if you're still worried about carrying "too much energy" around in your pocket in the form of an electricity, just remember that E=mc^2. So a single gram of material of any form carries 89.87 terajoules of energy. So even an uncharged 1 ounce cellphone battery possesses 2.5 petajoules of energy, or about the same amount of energy as 41 Hiroshima-sized nuclear bombs.

  2. Easy solution...at least for a bit more juice by Karem+Lore · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Considering that a mobile phone is always in your pocket and being moved around, isn't there a way to tap the kinetic energy to send small recharges to the battery throughout the day. This won't be enough to never have to charge, but may delay the time between charges enough to make it worthwhile...

    Like Rolex watches or something.

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    1. Re:Easy solution...at least for a bit more juice by ShadowRangerRIT · · Score: 4, Informative

      There's not that much power to be had in your pocket. Even self-winding watches rely on the swinging of your arms to generate power, and they're doing a hell of a lot less with it. The generation machinery itself would also take up space and add weight; you'd be better off increasing the size of the battery.

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  3. Donkey by NoYob · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... Schreck, a research analyst with IMS Research.

    As a work around, I think he plans on just having Donkey carry around more batteries.

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  4. Dual-battery config? by jddj · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wish they'd do one battery for the radio components and one for the CPU/etc. That way your CPU (MP3, gaming, PDA) requirements wouldn't be a slave to your talk time on the phone - and vice-versa.

    Ever have to get some data off your mobile but couldn't turn it on because you've been talking all day and run it down?

    1. Re:Dual-battery config? by oldspewey · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Rather than 2 batteries, I'd much rather have the firmware begin powering down radio functions once the main battery reaches some preset level of discharge. Or instead of a preset level of discharge, a user selectable one.

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    2. Re:Dual-battery config? by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ever have to get some data off your mobile but couldn't turn it on because you've been talking all day and run it down?

      Well, no, but I have wished that I had the juice to make a phone call after having the GPS and golfcaddy software running for a miserably slow 5 hour golf round. Short of needing to check something on the phone, in the middle of nowhere, though, you scenario doesn't come up much as either (a) I pop out the uSD card and put it in a reader* or (b) I dock the phone with a pc and download the information I need. Of course, there's always my preferred method of extra capacity, which involves slipping an extra 40g battery* in my pocket if I'm going to be using the phone heavily all day and there's no charging opportunity in sight. Since my dock charges the internal and extra battery simultaneously, I'm always ready to carry the extra few hours around with me when I'm going to need it.

      Besides, you don't you think it would suck to have half the phone or PDA life? Would you really prefer to lose a call to a dead phone just so that you could check your contacts or email at the end of the day?

      *iPhones need not apply

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  5. Re:One wonders if reversible computing will help by ShadowRangerRIT · · Score: 3, Informative

    I know nothing about quantum well diodes, but the screens are already LED on virtually all smart phones. And their power draw would be negligible when not in use, so I doubt they have much of an influence. Pushing computing out of the phone wouldn't save much; the cost of maintaining an active connection to the network at all times would be substantially higher than the small gains made from using a lower power chip (the chips are already fairly low power). Keep in mind, there would still need to be *a* chip to do the work of maintaining the network connection and drawing to the screen; if it's just bitmap copies, then you need a lot of network communication (and possibly decompression work), if it's drawing primitives, you need more drawing capability to turn them into screen images.

    Many of the more powerful apps are already in the cloud, there's not that much left to push out.

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  6. Slashdot in a bottle by mewsenews · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's get the kneejerk comments out of the way:

    - "Doesn't anyone use their phone as a god damn PHONE anymore? I'm running ($massively_antiquated_cellphone) and other than the hernia from carrying it around it stays charged for 3 months!"

    - "6 hours on a charge? My anecdote beats that anecdote!"

    - "Cell phone designers should stop being lazy and make their phones run on the tears of albino unicorns, then we wouldn't have to read about their problems with power consumption."

    - "Technology will advance to take care of this problem. In fact, when the Singularity happens, we won't even need cell phones anymore."

    1. Re:Slashdot in a bottle by StikyPad · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, it's way better when those are consolidated into a single, apathetic post. Plus, I bet that will keep anyone else from posting similar sentiments in a more serious tone. Maybe you could attach that to the beginning of every article from now on, just in case one of the regular killjoys forgets to log on and we miss our usual dose of frowns.

    2. Re:Slashdot in a bottle by mewsenews · · Score: 3, Funny

      Plus, I bet that will keep anyone else from posting similar sentiments in a more serious tone.

      On a serious note, I am sorry about your hernia.

  7. Good news everybody! by chill · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Necessity is the mother of invention. Nothing will drive battery research like a heavy demand for better batteries.

    Until that time, carry a spare battery. I've always done this, just in case I drain the first one. This is one of the biggest reasons I refuse to buy an iPhone -- you can't remove the battery.

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    1. Re:Good news everybody! by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Until that time, carry a spare battery.

      Until that time, I carry a tiny little cable that lets me charge my cell phone (even the dreaded iPhone) from one of the literally thousands of 5V USB outlets available in civilization.

      I find when I leave civilization, I can't find many cell phone towers so I just use an alternative (sat phone with solar charger). Or I just shut up and enjoy the view.

      Spare batteries on cell phones are an overrated concept.

      This message paid by the Apple (No User Serviceable Parts) Marketing Department.

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  8. Re:Why go faster? Why not stay the same? by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Smartphones are also getting caught up in the same software/hardware race that computers are in.

    Opening Google Maps is painfully slow on an Edge iPhone. On a 3GS it is much faster....but sooner or later Google Maps will add features that will bog it down. So another hardware upgrade will be in order and the cycle will repeat.

    Microsoft is probably itching to slap Aero glass into Winmo, if only someone would increase battery capacity by a few thousandfold.

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  9. Thin is In by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A trend I've noticed for both smartphones and laptops is the constant drive to reduce size and make devices thinner. Smaller and thinner is trendier. Frankly, I wish they're just make an iPhone or laptop twice as thick, thus quadrupling the battery life. I'm not a weakling. I can carry a bit more weight especially if the device is functional enough to take over the function of some other devices I would otherwise carry.

    1. Re:Thin is In by fabs64 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Kind've on-topic: You can get a third party replacement battery for the G1 that's 2300mhA and about a third thicker, comes with a replacement backplate.

  10. Re:Isn't the battery somewhat outdated? by JSBiff · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, if we are proposing new power technologies, how about something *slightly* more practical, like small scale fuel cells? Or, if you want to go really pie-in-the-sky, how about small scale atomic batteries or radioisotope thermoelectric generators. Change your batteries every 15-20 years.