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Microsoft Security Essentials Released; Rivals Mock It

Bimal writes "After a short three-month beta program, Microsoft is officially releasing Microsoft Security Essentials, its free, real-time consumer anti-malware solution for fighting viruses, spyware, rootkits, and Trojans. MSE is available for Windows XP 32-bit, Windows Vista/7 32-bit, and Windows Vista/7 64-bit. 'Ars puts MSE through its paces and finds an unobtrusive app with a clean interface that protected us in the dark corners of the Internet.' The software received positive notes when in beta, including a nod from the independent testing group AV-Test." But reader CWmike notes that Symantec is trash-talking Microsoft's free offering. Jens Meggers, Symantec's vice president of engineering, dismissed MSE as a "poor product" that will "never be up to snuff." Meggers added, "Microsoft has a really bad track record in security." The GM of Trend Micro's consumer division sniffed, "It's better to use something than to use nothing, but you get what you pay for."

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  1. Pot, meet Kettle! by kimvette · · Score: 4, Informative

    Jens Meggers, Symantec's vice president of engineering, dismissed MFE as a "poor product" that will "never be up to snuff." [CC] [GC] Meggers added, "Microsoft has a really bad track record in security."

    Symantec's products aren't exactly admired for security and effectiveness in recent years. Pot, meet Kettle,

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  2. Unbiased review? by babyrat · · Score: 4, Informative

    So let's see, independent groups give positive reviews. One of the main competitors give it a negative review. Who to believe?

  3. I like it and will recommend it to anyone. by farbles · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's a sweet little anti-virus program. A well designed and simple user interface, updates unobtrusively, doesn't bog down the computer and it is very effective at detecting all threats I've thrown its way. It also is easy to tell when it is unhappy thanks to a well designed and simple system tray icon. Credit where credit is due, Microsoft has put together a good program. I've tested this on dozens of machines and have not a single bad thing to say about it, which is not something I would have thought I'd ever say about a Microsoft product.

    If I do have a quibble, it's that it requires a validated Windows. If I were Microsoft I'd throw this on automatic Windows Update and push it out to everyone not already running an anti-virus.

    Symantec can blow me. I've seen more hosed computers where the owners thought they had current updated Symantec AV just to have me discover that their definitions had last been updated in 2007 or something with no indication from their Symantec AV they were vulnerable.

    /not an MS fanboi but when they get one right, they deserve praise, and they got this one right folks.

  4. Very slow on single core CPU by DigiShaman · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just formatted and installed XP SP3 on a machine running an Intel 2.4Ghz CPU (Northwood and non-HT). I've noticed that installing applications take about four times as long after having installed this program. The culprit seems to be a running process "MsMpEng.exe" pushing CPU utilization to a total of 100%. I did not have Windows Defender installed, but it's interesting to note this is the same file that it uses too. I'm guessing Microsoft Security Essentials is a close cousin to Windows Defender code which would explain a lot.

    Other than that, it seems to stay out of the way under general computing. But for those looking to do a format/reinstall of Windows, I recommend installing this program AFTER you get finished with everything else on your to-do install list.

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  5. Re:It's working great for me by nmb3000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    42.zip contains 4.5PB of data, compressed to 42kb. My university's mailserver marks it as a false positive.

    That's not a false positive at all. It's a well known "exploit" called a Zip Bomb. You think it would be a good thing if unsuspecting users unzipped that file onto their system partition or network drive?

    selfgz.gz is a gzip file that decompresses to itself. My university's mailserver tries to decompress it forever to scan all the nested files. It marks it as a false positive

    You can call this a false positive, but that implies the original file was useful to begin with. As somebody else pointed out, this is just designed to screw with mail servers (in addition to just being a cleverly written file). Most servers stop extracting nested archives at 6-8 levels deep to prevent this from dragging the server down. Rejecting potentially dangerous (to both mail daemons and users) files like this is better than just blocking all compressed files, isn't it?

    Besides, if this MS software is lightweight and really good at catching the bad stuff, but every now and then (as in, once every couple months) gets a "false positive", I'd say it's a winner. It's easy to drag a file out of a software quarantine -- lots easier than removing the latest and greatest rootkit.

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  6. Re:"Free" protection is a trojan horse for Onecare by dhavleak · · Score: 4, Informative

    MS discontinued OneCare around a year ago genius (see here). The free Security Essentials release we're discussing in TFA is what the OneCare team got spun off into..

  7. DRM and Sliverlight down your throat by sebsauvage · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not happy with forcing WGA and automated WindowsUpdate when you install this antivirus, MSE also forces DRM and Silverlight down your throat. Oh... and you are not authorized to talk about MSE without written consent from Microsoft.
    Just read the license.

    Doh!

    Well, I always welcome free solutions which enhance overall end users security, but this licence is a no-no for me.