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$338M Patent Ruling Against Microsoft Overturned

some_guy_88 writes "The $338 million verdict against Microsoft for violating a patent held by Uniloc has now been overturned. 'Ric Richardson ... is the founder of Uniloc, which sued Microsoft in 2003 for violating its patent relating to technology designed to deter software piracy. The company alleged Microsoft earned billions of dollars by using the technology in its Windows XP and Office programs. In April, a Rhode Island jury found Microsoft had violated the patent and told Microsoft to pay the company $388 million, one of the largest patent jury awards in US history. But on Tuesday ... US District Judge William Smith "vacated" the jury's verdict and ruled in favor of Microsoft.' In his ruling, Smith said the jury 'lacked a grasp of the issues before it and reached a finding without a legally sufficient basis (PDF).'"

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  1. Patent by sopssa · · Score: 5, Informative

    "It was never about the money. It was about the ethics of it ... winning a court case is not winning the lottery."

    I bet the $388 million had nothing to do with it.

    This is the actual patent description:

    A registration system allows digital data or software to run in a use mode on a platform if and only if an appropriate licensing procedure has been followed. Preferably, the system detects when part of the platform on which the digital data has been loaded has changed in part or in entirety, as compared with the platform parameters, when the software or digital data to be protected was last booted or run. The system relies on a portion of digital data or code which is integral to the digital data to be protected by the system. This integral portion is termed the code portion and may include an algorithm that generates a registration number unique to an intending licensee of the digital data based on information supplied by the licensee which characterizes the licensee. The algorithm in the code portion is duplicated at a remote location on a platform under the control of the licensor or its agents, and communication between the intending licensee and the licensor or its agent is required so that a matching registration number can be generated at the remote location for subsequent communication to the intending licensee as a permit to licensed operation of the digital data in a use mode. The code portion can be identical for all copies of the digital data. The algorithm provides a registration number which can be "unique" if the details provided by the intending licenses upon which the algorithm relies when executed upon the platform are themselves "unique."

    Sounds like the usual serial key algorithm with an online check, used in many online games too.

    1. Re:Patent by gabebear · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yep, exactly like games have been using http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2000_Nov_10/ai_66803777/

      And you quoted the abstract, which is always pretty boring. Read the claims to really figure out what was novel... http://news.google.com/patents/about?id=K7MoAAAAEBAJ

      Suprisingly, this doesn't seem like a patent troll.

    2. Re:Patent by Theaetetus · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is the actual patent description:

      No, it isn't. That's the abstract. The description is 20 pages long.

    3. Re:Patent by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Informative

      You say "usual" but it's only usual TODAY.
      It was not usual back in the 80s when it was invented.
      Quoting the article:

      "Once users buy the software, they get a registration key that unlocks the full featured version of the software. Uniloc claimed Richardson showed a copy of his software to Microsoft in 1993 but Microsoft did not license it, instead developing its own almost identical version and incorporating it into its products from 1997 or 1998."

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    4. Re:Patent by Magic5Ball · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The patent was filed in September 1993, by which time the popular shareware BBS software, door games and their extensions already used external (to the program) hardware (e.g. modem and hard disk characteristics) and software (host/controller versions and their registrations) information in the environment for licensing/serial number purposes. The elder FL/1911/DOD etc. could probably provide comprehensive lists of prior art...

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    5. Re:Patent by commodore64_love · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I grew-up in the 70s and played many many games throughout the 80s, and I'm not aware of any program that used this method. They all used a mechanical dongle, or other physical method, to verify a program's validity.

      Can you please provide us a list of the games/programs, pre-patent, that allowed for *online* registration using a key? (or else defaulted to a trialware mode)

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    6. Re:Patent by Theaetetus · · Score: 4, Informative

      The abstract should be enough and should not make every CIS graduate in the room say "Oh, I can do that. Let me show you how". The abstract should give the patent examiner some good reason to read the rest of the patent rather than summarily rejecting it.

      And if the patent examiner does that, they're breaking the law and should be fired. The abstract is a short, 150-word maximum statement that briefly identifies the patent's subject matter. For example, if the patent is titled "Bridge", the abstract lets you figure out if you're dealing with a network bridge, a PCI bridge, a suspension bridge, a wheatstone bridge, a dental bridge, etc. It has no legal weight whatsoever, and is only used to help identify which patents you should read more carefully because they might relate to your search.

    7. Re:Patent by fatboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't know of any copy protection in the late 80's or early 90's that "the system detects when part of the platform on which the digital data has been loaded has changed in part or in entirety, as compared with the platform parameters, when the software or digital data to be protected was last booted or run". I am no fan of this kind of thing, but it seems novel for the time. Then again, I wasn't working with state of the art software at the time, either :D

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    8. Re:Patent by Zordak · · Score: 2, Informative

      You shouldn't have to slog through 20 pages to find the nifty new invention.

      You don't. You just have to read the claims. The abstract has nothing to do with whether the examiner allows or rejects the application. If an examiner rejected one of my applications based on the abstract, I would immediately contact his supervisor and request a real office action from a competent examiner with at least a basic grasp of patent law.

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    9. Re:Patent by iamhigh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Does adding the "online" feature really make it novel? Can I file this same thing and put in "bit torrent" or "TOR" and have a novel idea? What about this but using the cellular network? I am just curious if simply adding the latest medium makes anything novel?

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    10. Re:Patent by dmorris68 · · Score: 3, Informative

      But this doesn't describe a simple serial scheme. The serial registration from the 80's was merely a serial/CRC algorithm that verified a valid serial format was entered, but did nothing to check the user's hardware. This patent, as well as Microsoft's activation, uses a hash derived from hardware configuration, making the serial unique to the PC installed on. So if this patent was indeed registered in the 80's (not sure it was, just assuming so from the above comment as I haven't looked it up), then it would seem novel to me unless someone can point out a similar mechanism from that time period. And from other comments it appears that the Richardson approached MS with the idea, which MS declined but went on to develop a virtually identical mechanism. I don't normally favor patent legislation like this, but being as that is SOOO like MS to steal instead of innovate, I'd be inclined to support Richardson on his claim. That said, MS isn't alone here. As mentioned, many other software developers use similar schemes that utilize hardware parameters to lock a registration to the current machine. Not only the CP schemes used by games, but many others as well. MS has the deepest pockets, though, and if the claims that they snubbed Richardson and then copied his idea is true, they deserve to be sued for it. /Devil's Advocate

    11. Re:Patent by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Informative

      P.S.

      Another reason I'm inclined to believe the Inventor's story is because that's what corporations do. In 1991 a man named J.Michael Straczynski tried to sell his show Babylon 5 to Paramount. They rejected it. Then in 1992 they miraculously created another show that was a virtual clone of Babylon 5 (including the same character names and a shapeshifter). Straczynski chose not to sue, even though he probably could have won. See below.

      Back in the 70s there was a similar case where Harlan Ellison tried to sell his story about a Robot Cop to ABC. They rejected his idea and then turned-around and released a virtual clone one year later. Ellison sued for copyright infringement and won.

      Now I read this story about a man trying to sell his idea in 1993, and it gets rejected, but the corporation went-ahead and used the idea anyway.

      History repeats itself.

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    12. Re:Patent by gabebear · · Score: 3, Informative

      The patent was filed in 1993. In 2000 Uniloc was actively courting the gaming industry. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2000_Nov_10/ai_66803777/

      I don't know of any games using hardware locks before 2000. Steam was released in 2003 and seems to use Uniloc for some of it's games http://store.steampowered.com/app/10560/

    13. Re:Patent by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "I can do that, let me show you how" is exactly what patents protect against.

      If I invent a new way of making solar panels, I describe it fully in a patent application. Based on the abstract, experts in the field might say "I can do that, let me show you how." The difference is, they didn't think of doing it. (Or they did and found out it wasn't worthwhile.)

      In this article the author mentioned how Catherine Littlefield Greene suggested to Whitney the use of a brush-like component instrumental to separate out the seeds and cotton.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton_gin

      "I can do that, let me show you how."

      Otis designed a technology system that employs flat polyurethane-coated steel belts that replace the heavy, woven steel cables which have remained the industry standard since the late 1800s

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_Elevator_Company

      "I can do that, let me show you how."

      Damned near anything invented before 1700 falls in this category - obvious when someone mentions it, but remains uninvented and unobvious until then.

    14. Re:Patent by shentino · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The Heretic CD used an almost identical scheme to protect encrypted versions of other games.

      The activation/decryption process effectively hashed the hard disk contents to come up with a unique serial number, which you converted into a key by calling Id, paying for the game, and getting back the key. If it validated, the program would decrypt the game.

  2. Translation by whisper_jeff · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Translation = it's cheaper to bribe one judge than 12 jurors.

    I joke! I joke!

    kinda...

    1. Re:Translation by sopssa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Of course when it's about Microsoft winning a patent troll, it's because they "bribed judge".

      This is why Microsoft and other big companies have to patent everything they can. Not to patent troll other companies with them, but to protect themself from said trolls. Actually I haven't still heard any case where MS has gone patent trolling - and before someone comes with the TomTom case, they actually made an aggressive movement against MS first and MS couldn't do anything else than sue them.

    2. Re:Translation by geminidomino · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Except Microsoft DIDN'T win. According to the jury, they lost. Then the judge said "The jury is made of dumbasses. It didn't count."

      Note how they never do that when the loser isn't big and rich...

    3. Re:Translation by sopssa · · Score: 2, Interesting

      For me it seems like the judge was right and the jury didn't understand computer systems.

      The Patent Claims

      It is basically a serial key registration system that uses online check aswell to validate the key, and that before registering the program runs in demo mode. Surely there we're games/shareware apps that did that before this patent too.

    4. Re:Translation by jedidiah · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While that is certainly likely, the jury is there for a reason. They
      aren't there just to be ingored later. There is supposed to be a
      process in place here and the judge seems to be just ignoring it in
      favor of his own personal biases.

      This sort of haphazard outcome should bother anyone who ever held a
      patent application or is likely to be sued by someone that does.

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    5. Re:Translation by nomadic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Note how they never do that when the loser isn't big and rich...

      Where on earth did you get that idea? I never understand how slashdotters come up with these grand pronouncements. Judges vacate jury decisions plenty of times, and plenty of them are where the loser is small and poor (or even destitute).

    6. Re:Translation by commodore64_love · · Score: 4, Interesting

      >>>Surely there we're games/shareware apps that did that before this patent too.

      Please name them. I'm not aware of any that predate 1993 (when the inventor originally tried to sell his idea to MS). Most of the software of that time used the following methods to enable trialware: Let you play a level and then type in a "code" from a book or wheel. -or- Allow software to be used but disabled if you did not have the mechanical dongle on the rear of the machine.

      This inventor's idea was different in that it allowed online registration via phoneline dialup or internet connection.

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    7. Re:Translation by ffreeloader · · Score: 2, Informative

      Microsoft Letting Patents Move To Linux Firms

      move of some patents originally held by Microsoft to the Open Invention Network, where they will join a portfolio whose purpose is to inoculate open source companies against patent trolls.

      Doesn't seem a lot like patent trolling from MS. They've pretty much always just cared about protecting their own ass from patent trolls - and now moving the patents to Open Invention Network, that does it for them and keep the technologies open to everyone else too.

      Say what? MS "allowed" those patents to move to the OIN? What a misstating of the facts.

      MS sold those patents, with instructions as to how they could be used by patent trolls, to a 3rd party known to deal with patent trolls. That 3rd party, without MS's knowledge, then contacted the OIN and told them about the patents. That led to the OIN buying the patents.

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    8. Re:Translation by rbanffy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Surely there were games/shareware apps that did that before this patent too."

      Sure if it were any games/shareware apps that did that before this patent, Microsoft would be able to produce them as evidence in the case.

      Did they?

    9. Re:Translation by gblues · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In 1993, dial-up PPP was still billed by the hour and most Internet use was among government researchers and schools. If anyone had it at home, they were dialing into a UNIX server and using a shell.

      Implementing a phone-home activation would have meant millions of dollars in phone lines, trunk hunting, modem banks, technical staff, just to avoid piracy that might've lost a couple hundred thousand sales at the most. It's no wonder Microsoft declined to use the technology.

      Did the patented technology involve creating a profile of the PC that would uniquely identify the computer it was installed on, and require re-validation if the hardware configuration changed significantly? 1993 pre-dates the PCI bus and Plug-and-Play, so probably not.

      If this case sets a precedence for more software patents being thrown out, then I for one welcome our software-patent-tossing overlords.

    10. Re:Translation by dmorris68 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Again, I think most of you are missing the details in this patent claim. This is NOT a simple serial number scheme. The shareware/games of the 80's and 90's, not to mention the Windows releases up through Win2000, typically used a serial registration scheme that simply verified through some algorithm and checksum that the serial was valid. However it did not:

      (a) verify anything online (since there was no universal online network, just some proprietary networks like CompuServe, Genie, etc. and private BBSes). The majority of PC owners didn't even have modems in those days. Making them dial-in to a proprietary activation network would have been a nightmare, and having been around in those days and installing a LOT of software back then, I never recall one doing so. And...
      (b) lock itself to the hardware platform

      These two distinctions are what appear to make this quite likely a novel patent at the time, and again while I don't care for much of the current state of patent law, patent trolls, et al, this does seem to fit the requirements for a novel and unique way to do something, and thus be protectable by patent. It's NOT just a conglomeration of existing patents or schemes.

      Think about it from the following perspective:

      - Someone has this idea about how to lock a software activation to the user's hardware AND require them to validate the activation online, years before it can even be practically implemented
      - Years later, after successfully licensing said scheme to the gaming industry, this person approaches Microsoft with this activation scheme as a suggesting for protecting upcoming versions of of their software
      - MS says "No Thanks!"
      - MS then proceeds to implement a virtually identical protection scheme on their new Windows XP release.

      How could anyone criticize the patent holder, and find MS not liable, given that information (assuming it is all correct, I just listed it as I understand it)? It's a classic case of bully infringement, one that mega-corporations often do against little guys who they figure won't have the guts/resources to sue, and if they do, they'll just wear them down in litigation costs. They have little to lose other than their integrity, which most don't really care about when it doesn't affect their bottom line, and even then they have a massive PR machine to vilify the victim as a greedy, money-hungry lech.

      The only issue I have is with the way the legal complaint was written, claiming that "The company alleged Microsoft earned billions of dollars by using the technology in its Windows XP and Office programs." MS didn't earn billions because of this activation scheme -- in fact if you believe some of the anti-DRM folks, it cost them some sales, though likely negligible. They would have earned billions without it as well. And hell, the activation scheme they implemented was hardly successful against piracy anyway. So at least that part of the claim is disingenuous at best.

  3. Jury problems by gr8_phk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He said the jury "lacked a grasp of the issues". But the traditional jury selection process rejects people with critical thinking skills - engineers in particular. So why didn't he say to start over with a qualified jury, rather than change the decision to his own? This suggests that ALL trials with highly technical issues will be decided by a judge alone - and we know they aren't always up on such things either.

    1. Re:Jury problems by nomadic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But the traditional jury selection process rejects people with critical thinking skills - engineers in particular.

      Well, first of all when I think engineers I tend not to think "critical thinking skills"; I mean, I think "quantitative skills" and "analytical skills", but considering how many of the leading creationists are engineers, how many subscribe zealously to weird political views, and how many are so prone to adopt conspiracy theories (zomg the judge was bribed), "critical thinking skills" doesn't come to mind.

      Also do you have any data to back up the idea that engineers are excluded more than other professions?

  4. Re:"cheaper" judge by Arimus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For balance then we need a system where by we, the public, can vacate a judge on the same grounds...

    The idiots who hand out prison sentances for missing a council tax payment but give muggers a slap on the wrist need vacating from their benches (or ideally the gene pool).

    (And yes, I know this is a US case but jury's and judges do share certain common traits with the UK ... phrases like two short planks act as the link)

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  5. Mixed feelings by KingSkippus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I always have mixed feelings when I hear that a judge vacated a verdict.

    On the one hand, a lot of people are idiots, and I imagine that it's not that unusual to get seven idiots on a given jury at the same time. I kind of like the thought that there's a "fail safe" that has veto power over a bad jury.

    On the other, I don't like the thought that one person has absolute power over the process like that. One guy (or gal) can basically overrule everything a jury deliberates on. I've known judges that are idiots, too, and when I see something like this, I can't help but wonder why we even bother to have the trial.

    In the end, I suppose I lean more towards taking the power to vacate verdicts or awards from judges. After all, that's what the appeals process is there for, to be that fail safe, and to be honest, I think the odds are more likely that you'd get one idiot judge than seven idiot jurors if I'm the one in the courtroom. Plus, jurors are more likely to account for the human element in such cases than a judge who looks at everything in terms of the black-and-white letter of the law; they're more likely to come up with a right (i.e. moral and ethical) decision, even if it isn't the Right (i.e. legally correct) decision.

    And it's not just because it's Microsoft. I'd feel the same way if this happened in the Jamie Thomas case and the judge had smacked down the RIAA. In theory, it shouldn't make a difference, but in reality, I always try to imagine how I'd feel if the tables were turned and the same thing happened.

    1. Re:Mixed feelings by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Plus all legitimate authority comes from the People. The jury is as close to that ultimate authority as you're gonna get, and as you said there's the appeals process which allows judges to order secondary trials if the original case was somehow flawed. Hopefully this inventor will get a second chance to stand before a jury and plead his case to protect his invention.

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    2. Re:Mixed feelings by PapaBoojum · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Having served on two juries in my lifetime (one civil, one criminal) I can attest that in both cases the idiot ratio was definitely > 50%. At least in the criminal trial, what the jury could do was strictly limited by the judges instructions. In the civil case, most of the jurors wanted to vote based on factors that had NOTHING to do with the case we heard. It was a medical malpractice suit and most jurors let their personal experiences with various doctors (good or bad) dictate how they were going to vote, pretty much ignoring the evidence binders and testimony.

      Of course one could easily argue I was one of the idiots since I couldn't B.S. my way out of jury duty....

    3. Re:Mixed feelings by fwarren · · Score: 2, Informative

      It will have a bigger effect than that.

      First is the cost you are referring to, the price of the insurance.

      Second, with the reduced risk of lawsuits, payouts and insurance, Doctors will go into practice in specialties they are now avoiding and in locations where they are avoiding to practice. This increases competition and lowers costs. I.E. The price of specialist is likely to be cheaper if there are 4 doctors in the area practicing, each with a 1 month waiting list than when there is 1 doctor who has a 4 month waiting list.

      Third, health care is overall cheaper when the specter of major lawsuits does not hang over a doctors head. I had some deadlines to meet at work and pulled a lot of overtime. In it I was not taking care of my health. Lots of junk food, little water and no exercise. To make a long story short, I started cramping because I had become constipated. Well my wife picks me up after work on the pretext of going shopping but takes me to the to the doctor. I know I needed a laxative. As it turns out the Doctor knew that as well. But the Doctor could not say it. The Doctor wanted me to run across the street to the lab, wait for 3 hours, get an x-ray, an ultrasound and a CT-scan. They wanted to run about $900 in tests so they could be "sure". It is policy to prevent lawsuits. My Doctor has no discretion in the matter. So what should have been 10 minutes and $50 bucks for the doctor to tell my wife, "Don't worry, have him take a laxative and call me in 2 days if things are not better" would have been turned into a $1000 parade and taken 4 or 5 hours just to tell me, "Everything is ok, go home and take a laxative and call me in 2 days if things are not better".

      By my own estimation on regular doctor visits (not hospital stays) the savings could be from 20% to 90% on a typical visit. I am sure that will amount to an overall savings of more than 10%.

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    4. Re:Mixed feelings by maharb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree with the car analogy but what does that have to do with malpractice suits? That is another issue with the medical system: sense of entitlement. Why does every average person believe they should get the attention of ten nurses, a doctor, millions of dollars of equipment, etc just because they are a citizen. I am sorry but if you want this type of care you should have to save for it, forgo other expenses, like nice cars, or work more/harder and make provide more for society.

      Bluntly: Why should an expertly trained team of doctors and nurses using expensive facilities be used to cure the cancer of a crack addict McDonald's employee?

      If everyone were to have this care everyone would have to be a doctor or nurse and we would all be caring for each other while we were weren't sick and never get to enjoy a day of our lives. Health care is a service or product just like everything else. If you want it you should have to pay for it, just like everything else. If you want more or better health care you should buy a less expensive house or car so you can afford it.

      You may say a society should protect its citizens. I agree, we should protect our productive, intelligent, high value generating citizens from paying for a bum to get multimillion dollar procedures. Not everyone provides equal value to a society so why should everyone be treated equally?

      Anyway... you just spurred a large rant from me, not really directed at you. But that 1% number is bullshit. Malpractice costs are high enough to keep doctors from starting their own practices in many cases. Maybe 1% of the heath care budget is allotted to AWARDS from malpractice lawsuits, but its cost is more far reaching than that. Fighting a legal battle that the doctor wins still costs tons of money and would not factor into that at all, not to mention thousands of other activities that revolve around the business that lawyers have created around malpractice suits.

    5. Re:Mixed feelings by Earthquake+Retrofit · · Score: 2, Informative

      In states where caps were put on malpractice awards the cost of insurance has not gone down and only keeps the quack doctors from leaving the state.

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  6. Problem is this only works here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    where the loser is wealthy.

    How many cases of "computer trespass" have been decided on ridiculous reasoning from the jury and allowed without murmur from the judges WHEN THE DEFENDANT WASN'T RICH?

    Privilege used to mean "private law".

    Rule of law was supposed to remove that and we would all be equal under it.

    But judges vacating juries and judges disallowing nullification and judges disallowing people who know what they are talking about ensures that privilege lives on.

  7. Patent is obvious, and rubbish by AbbeyRoad · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From the judgment "...fair to describe Microsoftâ(TM)s evidence as more or less
    conclusory on this point." I.e. that the patent was an obvious modification to
    prior work.

    I am glad about this. It shows that the patent system is not so broke as some think.
    This patent basically is merely the means by which one can type in a license key
    after downloading some free-trial software. Much free-trial software has some kind
    of typing-in-of-a-license-key, and if Microsoft lost it would mean no one could do
    this in their own products without fear of a law suite - a ridiculous situation.

    This guy was just gold-digging. Well done to the judge.

  8. Mixed feelings about judges overturning a jury by erroneus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When judges essentially nullify a jury decision, I find it worrisome as it appears to circumvent the system established by the constitution as I understand it. The whole concept of jury nullification then becomes endangered should a judge decide the jury's actions were inappropriate. There should have to be a much more difficult process involved to have a judge overturn a jury's decision.

    My feelings are mixed because it is indeed the case that juries are indeed quite stupid people. There was a new story recently describing a situation that has been ongoing for more than 3 years where a young female became pregnant and never informed the father until just prior to giving birth. (She was probably compelled or otherwise pressured to do so due to legal requirements.) The baby was planned to be offered for adoption by one of the girl's relatives. They asked him to sign the documents and he refused and stated he wanted to keep the baby. The adoption agency proceeded with the adoption process anyway which was a mistake for which they paid a rather large settlement to the father in this case. But the father continues his struggle against this illegal adoption. It was at one point decided by a jury that the child would be better off with the adoptive parents and that the needs of the child outweighed the rights of the father.

    This is a seriously questionable decision and one that, off hand, I tend to disagree with. A judge also disagreed with the jury and overturned some of the jury's decisions opening the door for the father of the child to claim him and bring him back home. The law, as it turns out, favors the rights of the natural parents and also favors the law and recognized that procedure and law was broken during the adoption process resulting in extreme injustice. The judge also ruled that there was no evidence that this single father was not capable of raising and supporting this child and that the jury's decision was wrong.

    I agree with the judge's actions in this case as it seems to match with my own understanding of justice in this case. However, the ability of a judge to overturn a decision by jury still bothers me.

    As to the case with Microsoft? I can't say as I agree one way or the other except on one point -- there should be no software patents. And while this is not a strike against software patents directly, it serves as another example of how they are used and abused and why they are simply bad.

    1. Re:Mixed feelings about judges overturning a jury by nomadic · · Score: 2, Informative

      The whole concept of jury nullification then becomes endangered should a judge decide the jury's actions were inappropriate. There should have to be a much more difficult process involved to have a judge overturn a jury's decision.

      Jury nullification is more of an issue in criminal cases. And in those cases a judge cannot vacate a jury decision of "not guilty," though they can vacate guilty verdicts (which I think is a good thing.)

  9. Re:"cheaper" judge by commodore64_love · · Score: 4, Interesting

    >>>For balance then we need a system where by we, the public, can vacate a judge on the same grounds...

    We have one. (cocks gun). Or if you want something less messy, you could hire a private investigator to hack the judge's accounts, find the evidence of bribes from Microsoft, and then have the judge removed and the original verdict restored. There was a similar instance in Pennsylvania, resulting in the freedom of many wrongfully-convicted citizens and a judge who is heading towards jail on bribery/corruption charges.

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  10. Excellent news! by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm no Microsoft fan, but I rather watch them beat a stupid patent than see anyone stuck with such a stupid verdict. At least this establishes recent precedent for judges overturning lunacy.

    Yeah, I know we all hoped it would be the straw that broke the camel's back and Microsoft would say, "wow, this is idiocy and we need to see the light!" This wouldn't have been that straw. This straw would've left them saying, "wow, I'm glad we can afford it! Too bad for our poorer competitors who can't!"

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    1. Re:Excellent news! by Bonzoli · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This wasn't a stupid patent. I'd actually say it was one of the better ones ever created. Remember 1993 fast modems were not in around. Someone willing to do something like this was really thinking ahead for that time. The internet wasn't around. This latest judge process is suspect for reasons that do not appear logical.

  11. At least he's consistent by nedlohs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The judge finds for Microsoft and then on appeal the higher court says "ah no this needed to go to a jury you idiot".

    So it goes to a jury, and the same judge then rules the opposite of the jury verdict and finds for Microsoft again.

    Surely that's going to make for an interesting appeal...

  12. Jury system doesn't work anymore by Grashnak · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The jury system was great back when the most complicated thing they had to make judgements on was whether or not a stolen horse had an altered brand - and they all worked with horses.

    Today we are asking 12 average joes to make life and death decisions about evidence that even highly trained people would find difficult to follow. The Enron finances, DNA evidence, whether or not some highly technical piece of code is "obvious". This is why juries ignore mountains of technical evidence in favour of bullshit like "If the glove don't fit, you must acquit".

    I don't know what the solution is, but I do know I don't want Tom, Dick and Harry sitting in judgement on my patent lawsuit.

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    1. Re:Jury system doesn't work anymore by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Possibly the solution is to have 'a jury of your peers,' you know, the sort of people who will be familiar with the issues at hand. Of course, if you want competent people to actually do jury service rather than trying hard to get out of it, you need to compensate them accordingly.

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  13. How to get out of Jury Duty by m0s3m8n · · Score: 3, Funny

    Kinda on topic ... I was once called to sit on a Jury in a civil case. When asked by the judge if I had any objections to being a juror I honestly told him "I believe there are too many lawsuits in this country." It was like I had the plague. They had me out of there within 30 seconds. What was funny is as I was being lead out of the room the defendants counsel objected to my dismissal. Of course the judge did not agree.

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  14. Re:"cheaper" judge by NoYob · · Score: 2, Funny
    If you did any of those things, you you be the one going to jail.

    The judge may get investigated. We're talking about real life here. Although, your idea would make a half way decent script for a direct to video movie. You would need a lot more violence (gun fights and move martial arts) and gratuitous sex - plenty of babes running around naked. It doesn't even have to make sense in the story - just have some hot chick taking off her clothes.

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  15. Re:"cheaper" judge by Strangely+Familiar · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is also an appeal possible. The appeals court already told this judge not to decide the case (by summary judgment), and allow a jury trial. Something tells me that the appeals court is going to be slightly perturbed with the behavior of this judge.

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  16. Re:"cheaper" judge by chrb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The bizarre thing is that the judge originally ruled in favour of Microsoft in 2006, but his ruling was overturned on appeal, with the appeals court saying there should've been a jury trial. Now he's overruled the findings of a jury trial and gone against the findings of the appeal to his own 2006 judgement. Surely that won't be the end of it? I'd imagine there's scope for appealing against this. I also find it odd that he only ruled against the jury after they went against his previous personal decision. Surely if he disagreed with the findings of the appeals court he should've appealed against the necessity of a jury trial, not held a jury trial and ignored the outcome when it went against him? From the article:

    The judge had ruled in favour of Microsoft in 2006, but an appeals court overturned his decision, saying there was a "genuine issue of material fact" and that he should not have ruled on the case without hearing from a jury.

    But in his order today vacating the jury's decision, Judge Smith said the jury "lacked a grasp of the issues before it and reached a finding without a legally sufficient basis".

  17. Re:"cheaper" judge by chrb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For balance then we need a system where by we, the public, can vacate a judge on the same grounds...,

    The problem is that any judge who rules on a sensitive issue which has the tabloids up in arms would therefore be removed. There would be no way to ensure that a sentence was fair if the judge's employment immediately following a sensitive trial would be decided by the tabloid media.

  18. Supreme Court said this is the correct approach by weiserfireman · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Problem with software patents is they have never been specific enough. They try to patent a function of how something works. Mechanical patents don't work that way.

    If you patent a universal joint for a car using roller bearings, and I can patent one using ball bearings and a different joint style. Even though my universal joint provides the same function as yours, it does the function differently enough that I don't have to license your design.

    Uniloc patented a licensing system. Yes. Microsoft built their own licensing system that provides the same function, but there was no evidence that Microsoft used any part of Uniloc's software to do that function. Therefore, Microsoft didn't violate Uniloc's patent

    For many years the Patent courts have upheld business model and software function patents as valid, but the Supreme Court ruled that style invalid last year. The Judge in this case is just apply the time tested rules about mechanical patents in the method that the Supreme Court has instructed them to apply to software.

    1. Re:Supreme Court said this is the correct approach by Theaetetus · · Score: 3, Informative

      Problem with software patents is they have never been specific enough. They try to patent a function of how something works. Mechanical patents don't work that way.

      If you patent a universal joint for a car using roller bearings, and I can patent one using ball bearings and a different joint style.

      Depends on what that "different joint style" is. If I patent a universal joint using steel bearings, you'll fail to get a patent on the same joint style with tungsten carbide bearings, and will likely be found to infringe my patent if you make it that way. However, if your universal joint is wildly different - say, an offset universal joint and mine is axial - then it's different... But that's not what you're seeming to say up there, where the difference is roller bearings vs. ball bearings. If that's the only difference, you aren't going to get a patent on it.

      For many years the Patent courts have upheld business model and software function patents as valid, but the Supreme Court ruled that style invalid last year.

      I think you're confused. The court of appeals for the federal circuit ruled that some business model and software patents were invalid, unless they were tied to a "specific machine" or performed a "transformation", in a case called In Re Bilski. The Supreme Court has yet to rule on Bilski's appeal, but they'll be doing that next spring. Meanwhile, the appeals court has recently affirmed medical diagnosis patents in Prometheus v. Mayo. It's highly unlikely - in fact, I'll go out on a limb and say absolutely not going to happen - that the Supreme Court will overturn all software patents. All they're going to do is [hopefully] provide a clearer test of what the hell a "specific machine" is and what makes it different from a "general purpose computing device".

  19. Um, thanks for the free product key? by StikyPad · · Score: 3, Informative

    From TFOpinion: Printed on each jewel box of a retail software product is a 25-character alphanumeric string called a Product Key (e.g., MQ9WT-3D8PY-6VF76-GMHVX-DCXFM).