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UK Court Order Served Over Twitter, To Anonymous User Posing As Another

SpuriousLogic spotted this story on the BBC, from which he excerpts: "The High Court has given permission for an injunction to be served via social-networking site Twitter. The order is to be served against an unknown Twitter user who anonymously posts to the site using the same name as a right-wing political blogger. The order demands the anonymous Twitter user reveal their identity and stop posing as Donal Blaney, who blogs at a site called Blaney's Blarney. The order says the Twitter user is breaching the copyright of Mr. Blaney. He told BBC News that the content being posted to Twitter in his name was 'mildly objectionable.' Mr. Blaney turned to Twitter to serve the injunction rather than go through the potentially lengthy process of contacting Twitter headquarters in California and asking it to deal with the matter. UK law states that an injunction does not have to be served in person and can be delivered by several different means including fax or e-mail."

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  1. Cue the deluge of people... by Majik+Sheff · · Score: 4, Funny

    claiming to be this guy in various contexts. Streisand effect here we come.

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    1. Re:Cue the deluge of people... by DonalBlaney · · Score: 5, Funny

      claiming to be this guy in various contexts. Streisand effect here we come.

      Don't matter I'll sue them all!!!
      I have friends in thee RIAA!

    2. Re:Cue the deluge of people... by vegiVamp · · Score: 4, Funny

      Now there's what I call long-term planning.

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  2. Thats about it for me by Seriousity · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Time for me to delete my social networking accounts methinks, it's lost all the glitter and sparkle as my eyes have been gradually opened to the loss of privacy they effect and the risk of identity theft they engender. I've watched facebook degenerate into an oozing fest of self indulgence and crappy quizzes about peoples aura/star sign/some other mystic crap or how good they are in bed, and too many of my friends now use it to grandly announce every mundane detail of their life to the world as if they're some sort of celebrity and we're all supposed to be deeply concerned about them cutting their pinky finger or enraptured by their new haircut, etc etc. A friend related similar sentiments to me earlier today, saying people were using it as if it were twitter.

    What concerns me the most is the loss of privacy entailed in having an account with any of these sites, knowing that cops and employers can pull up all this info instantly... it's a worry. Enough ranting for me, I'm going to delete my facebook account and my twitter account (which I created once and used never :P)

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    1. Re:Thats about it for me by gzipped_tar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Time for me to delete my social networking accounts methinks

      You can't. It's cursed.

      I mean, do you honestly believe you are allowed to do that in the first place? As today's business best practice is to bury terms like "we retain the right of owing your data for as long as we are pleased, even if after you 'delete' your account" in the crap known as "the License Agreement", prepare to fight through legal obstacles and win a Pyrrhic victory at the cost of a kidney and a liver before you can really delete all your social-networking accounts, if for some reason you can win at all.

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    2. Re:Thats about it for me by z0idberg · · Score: 5, Funny

      too many of my friends now use it to grandly announce every mundane detail of their life to the world

      Would you consider their decision to delete their social networking sites a mundane details of their life? and the fact that they only ever used these once? I would. Just sayin'

    3. Re:Thats about it for me by gsslay · · Score: 5, Funny

      Time for me to delete my social networking accounts methinks

      too many of my friends now use it to grandly announce every mundane detail of their life to the world

      Mmmmmm, delicious irony.

    4. Re:Thats about it for me by bonhomme_de_neige · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Don't delete them. Instead, open hundreds or even thousands of accounts in your own name, all with bogus and different info. Write a little script to randomly trawl other people's accounts for messages/photos/etc and copy them at random to your own hundreds of accounts, as if they were real postings. Noone would know the difference. Then if your employer/the police/whoever tried to dig up any dirt on you, it would be buried among such a volume of spam that finding it would be a Herculean task.

      No doubt the social networking sites would try to shut you down somehow, but surely on Slashdot noone has to explain how to cover your tracks well enough to make it unreasonably difficult for them.

      And best of all - Facebook and Twitter can keep reporting in the press "Look, our membership base is growing by a x million accounts a day! At this rate, we will have more subscriptions than there are people on the planet in just a few months! Advertisers flock to us!" ... everyone wins!

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  3. Jurisdiction? by bogidu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    IANAL, but if the person in question is not a UK citizen, does the UK law, which says the injunction can be sent by fax or email, apply?

    1. Re:Jurisdiction? by Wizard+Drongo · · Score: 5, Informative

      Oh, you can deliver an injunction anywhere. Hell, if they were on the Moon, as long as they can receive it, you can deliver it. The correct question here is "if they're not in the UK, is there anything stopping them from just completely ignoring it?" and the answer would be "no". Of course, you next recourse then would be to either attempt to get the criminal courts involved, so you can have them extradited (doubtful in this case;the courts are rightly leery of getting involved in civil actions like this), or you go to the country they're in (e.g. the US) and get a judgement against them there, which depending on the locale can be easy or hard. In the EU, the court would be likely to take the UK's court decision into consideration, likewise the US, Canada and other commonwealth nations. China or Nigeria etc., not so much.

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    2. Re:Jurisdiction? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      FYI, the corresponding verb for 'injuction' is 'enjoin'.

  4. They finally got anonymous coward! by syousef · · Score: 4, Funny

    Three cheers for finally serving a court order against that anonymous coward bastard. He's always cluttering up slashdot with horse porn stories, trolling posts and all sorts of objectionable and inflamatory shite. Maybe now the Internet-web-thingie will be easy to use and headache free and we'll only ever have truth posted! Yay!

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    1. Re:They finally got anonymous coward! by Psyborgue · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, "Anonymous coward" is exactly the term the real Blarney actually used on his blog, writing "I successfully obtained, thanks to the masterful advocacy of Matthew Richardson, in the High Court today compelling an anonymous coward to stop pretending to be me on Twitter and to reveal his or her identity.".

  5. What if there are two Donal Blaneys? by feedayeen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What if Donal Blaney is his real name? Or better yet, since names can apparently be copywrited, what if the Twitter Donal Blaney is older than the Donal Blaney at Blaney's Blarney? Can the Twitter Donal Blaney sue the other one to force him to change the name of his blog?

  6. Re:Yet another reason to hate people. by Animaether · · Score: 5, Insightful

    for all intensive purposes

    *twitch*
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=intensive+purposes
    THAT out of the way...

    There's a bit of a difference between your case of the real James Bond and Ian Fleming's James Bond. The real James Bond wasn't a spy, and Ian Fleming certainly wasn't trying to pass of the books' character James Bond as if they were the real James Bond-the-spy.
    The real james bond was an ornithologist, says wikipedia with some citation to lord knows whether it's a credible source, but whatever.

    This Donal Blaney chap, however, is complaining that somebody else posting under the name Donal Blaney is actually trying to pass themselves off as being this particular Donal Blaney chap... using not only his name, but his picture, his actual blog's name, etc.

    Whether or not he has a case will be up to the courts to decide anyway, but I do believe he's got -a- point.. even if it's not a very sharp one, given that twitter does usually look into these things to make sure celebrities get to use their own name if a fan or foe set up a twitter account with that celebrity's name and was posing as them.
    ( not too sure what they do if it's really just an account from somebody else with the same name and they do -not- pose as the celebrity; I should hope they'd tell the celeb to go take a hike and open a new account under a different name. )

  7. LEAVE ME ALONE by DonalBlaney · · Score: 5, Funny

    Stop posting as me,

    I'll sue!!!!

    you have been warned

  8. Re:Copyright? by Psyborgue · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You can attempt to trademark your own name, but it rarely holds up in court, especially against the many fair use defenses. I should know. I run a website that had to deal with a WIPO dispute from a woman claiming her name was trademarked (decision here, full details and all case files here). Her argument was similar that a person could misunderstand my site to be hers, but even if that were true, there are cases dealing with that specifically, finding it to be acceptable for public comment purposes (form of protest). One of the funny things is she registered the mark only after I put up the website about her.

  9. Re:Copyright? by Homburg · · Score: 4, Informative

    The twitterer isn't actually using Donal Blarney's name, they're using the name of his blog. Maybe he's claiming the name of the blog as a trademark? Most of the news reports seem to be parotting the law firm, who say that the twitterer is "breaching the copyright and intellectual property of the blogâ(TM)s owner," which is some uselessly vague bollocks, unfortunately, as it doesn't say what the intellectual property involved actually is.

  10. Re:Copyright on his name? by ldrydenb · · Score: 5, Informative

    The twitter account in question is @blaneysblarney, which is the name of Mr Blaney's blog. The account photo is copied from Mr Blaney's blog. The first post of @blaneysblarney says "Comrades, I thought I would set up a more political twitter and keep my other twitter account for more personal stuff."

    So it seems he's trying to prevent someone using his photo and the name of his blog to pass off their words as his. I'm guessing he's asserting copyright on his photo and the name of his blog, which seems reasonable.

  11. publicity stunt by jipn4 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The law firm serving the order is Blaney's own law firm. The whole thing sounds like a publicity stunt. The reason Blaney isn't serving the order in California is because it would be worthless: you can't copyright a name, and people have a right to anonymous free speech and satire. For an anonymous author to use a slightly offensive variation of Blaney's name to make fun of him and his positions is precisely what US free speech laws are about.

  12. Poster above is an impostor and a liar! by REAL_Donal_Blaney · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am the REAL Donal Blaney, and I am appalled at these blatant attempts to smear my name and reputation on the Internet. Rest assured that all such attempts are being monitored and recorded and that all those who attempt to act in such fashion will be prosecuted to the full extent of the laws pertinent to the case. The REAL Donal Blarney