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Most Mac Owners Also Own a Windows PC, But Not Vice Versa

Barence writes "More than eight out of ten Mac owners also own a PC, according to a new piece of research. The NPD survey found that 12% of US computer-owning households have a Mac. However, 85% of those also own a Windows PC, suggesting that the Mac/PC divide is nowhere near as clear cut as both Apple and Microsoft suggest. Mac owners are also far more likely to have multiple computers in the house. Two thirds of Mac owners have three or more computers in the home, while only 29% of PC owners have two or more PCs."

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  1. So? by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 3, Informative

    These findings are pretty un-surprizing. Did anyone really think that computer owners could only own one computer at a time, or would typically own only one platform?

    Mac owners tend to have a lot of money. They probably have an older PC or two laying, because they still work. Or, perhaps the Mac is older, and they bought a cheap new PC to run games and Windows applications. Newer Mac owners likely run OS X and Windows on the same hardware, if they run Windows at all. But if they have an older PC sitting around, they probably still have it and use it occasionally, or let other family members use it, etc.

    The whole "fanboi only uses $platform" thing is probably overblown, with highly visible zealots who only use one platform being much more vocal and visible than those who work on both platforms.

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  2. Re:Yeah, but... by antifoidulus · · Score: 3, Informative

    Apple sells something called Final Cut Express, which has most of the features of FCP but at a fraction of the price($200), it does non-linear editing, custom transitions etc.

  3. Freeware has a lot to do with it by CdBee · · Score: 3, Informative

    there's an app to do most things on Mac, but its often commercial. There is a better scope of freeware on Windows (although OSS apps often exist on both platforms, Closed-source free apps are more numerous on Windows, and often a free app exists on Windows where only a pay-for app will serve on Mac)

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  4. Does VMWare count? by wandazulu · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have only Mac hardware at home, but I do have VMWare Fusion for the extremely rare occasion I need a Windows machine.

    I bootcamp'ed my Intel-based Macs on the thought that I would perhaps need to use the machine as a pure Windows box once in awhile, but that hasn't happened; I've been surprised to find that between what I can do on a website, or what Java can provide, or what developers have been good to provide both a Mac as well as Windows version, there's nothing so exclusive to Windows that I've needed to run Boot Camp. If anything, there's just a couple of programs I use for development written in Delphi of all things that are exclusive to Windows.

  5. Re:Here's why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    what for? it's the same exact hardware. same exact intel laptop CPU's except for the Mac Pro. biggest difference is Mac's use nvidia chipsets instead of Intel due to the fact that nvidia has better integrated graphics. all the other parts are exactly the same and Mac's have used identical PC components like RAM and hard drives for decades

    You forgot things little things like machined aluminum case, dual channel wireless cards. Better quality parts add up.

  6. Math by njfuzzy · · Score: 4, Informative

    This sounds like it could be explained by some fairly simple logic and math. If (numbers pulled out of my ass for sake of argument) 10% of people own a Mac, and 95% of people own a PC, and each household has more than one person in it... You'd get something like this kind of distribution.

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  7. Re:Here's why by Not_Wiggins · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm reasonably certain it's been shown a number of times that if you build a PC with the exact same hardware as a Mac, you'll end up with a PC that costs about the same.

    Actually, it has been shown to be cheaper to build your own Mac.

    I'm only addressing your Hardware comparison. In reality, there are more things that go into the value of a "computer solution" than just the hardware components: software availability/quality for your own needs, support, design/appeal, etc.

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  8. Re:Here's why by MBGMorden · · Score: 3, Informative

    If that's true then most PCs must be of the "low end" type, Celeron rather than Core 2 Duo - right? Is that true?

    Absolutely true, which is why the CPU performance wars have most faded away except for hardcore gamers. Computer chips have been fast enough to do literally everything the vast majority of users want to do now for the last 5 years or more. RAM requirements have gone up in that time (on a newer OS anything under 2gb and it feels slow to me, though I have 4gb on my main machine), but I'd wager than 90% of users can't tell the difference for their tasks between any 1Ghz+ chip and the fastest quad-core on the market.

    The chip makers long ago figured out that the "budget" cpu market was much higher volume (though much lower margin).

    I'd bet that if Apple put out an honest to goodness budget system: small tower case, cheapo Celeron processor, 3.5" hard drive (lapop drives cost more), a regular old tray loading DVD drive, and that's it. No bluetooth, firewire, other other nonsense that the vast majority of users never use, then they'd sell them like hotcakes. They just don't want to because margins are low on such systems, and they know very well that even among their loyalists that's all most of them need, and people already paying gouged prices would flock to that system, cannibalizing their ridiculous markups.

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  9. Re:Here's why by Astadar · · Score: 5, Informative

    I spec'ed out the xoticpc as closely as I could to the MBP 17" stock model at $2499. It came to $1218.

    However, it has a 1400x900 display (vs 1920x1200), no wireless-n option, no GeForce 9400M/9600M GT graphics, no information about weight and, possibly most importantly, no information about battery life.

    While it does come in significantly less expensive, I don't think that you can argue that they are equivalent.

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  10. Re:Here's why by jedidiah · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not quite.

    Dell offers a "tiny desktop" that is less than the Mac equivalent while having better specs.

    Furthermore, this "tiny desktop" can be upgraded with much more interesting options that simply aren't available from the Apple equivalent.

    The problem with the "specs games" that Apple fanboys like to play is the fact that a PC doesn't restrict you to one spec. One PC brand wont even do that.

    So I can replace my 09 mini with a $200 ION or get a much more expensive Dell that will blow the doors off the Mac.

    I can also get a semi-custom system for the same price as a mini that has most of what you would buy a Mac Pro for.

    Macs are more expensive because Apple Corp is confident that the faithful will bend over.

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