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US House Decommissions Its Last Mainframe

coondoggie writes "The US House of Representatives has taken its last mainframe offline, signaling the end of an era in Washington, DC computing. The last mainframe supposedly enjoyed 'quasi-celebrity status' within the House data center, having spent 12 years keeping the House's inventory control records and financial management data, among other tasks. But it was time for a change, with the House spending $30,000 a year to power the mainframe and another $700,000 each year for maintenance and support."

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  1. Someone updated computer hardware! Film at 11. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Really? This is a story? They were running a server from 1997, and now they're running a server from 2009. Really guys?

  2. 12 Year Old Mainframe = 20+ Other Servers by BBCWatcher · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article notes that the House of Representatives took at least 5 years to replace the applications on its 12 year old mainframe. The costs (i.e. taxpayer funds) to perform this migration work were not disclosed, but it's a pretty safe assumption those costs dwarfed any others. Moreover, the article seems to suggest that it took at least 20 other servers to replace a single 12 year old mainframe, and that's even using virtualization on the new servers. One wonders how many (more) servers the House could have replaced with a single new mainframe.

    But here's a more profound question: why is the House of Representatives running its own, separate data centers (primary and disaster)? Couldn't they at least consolidate with, oh I don't know, the Senate?!?! And, a related question: for all those 12 years, why didn't the House simply move its comparatively tiny mainframe workload to a bigger mainframe anywhere else in the federal government? (Yes, they can do that without also delegating any security control. Mainframes do that.) Quite simply, it sounds like the House was, and is, wasting a lot of taxpayer money. (Shocking, I know.)

    1. Re:12 Year Old Mainframe = 20+ Other Servers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      But here's a more profound question: why is the House of Representatives running its own, separate data centers (primary and disaster)? Couldn't they at least consolidate with, oh I don't know, the Senate?!?!

      I'm pretty sure there's something in the constitution about separation of data centres...

  3. $700K/yr not out of line by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    $700K/yr for software support and hardware maintenance isn't really out of line for a high-capacity system with 99.999% uptime.

    Maybe they don't need that level of reliability, but if they do five-9s, they will probably find that whatever system or group of systems replaces it will have similar support costs.

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    1. Re:$700K/yr not out of line by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Informative

      Unfortunately the article doesn't mention what exactly makes the $700k. I'm not into mainframes, maybe someone else has details on what makes mainframe maintenance so costly?

      It's the 99.999% uptime that is a typical requirement of mainframe apps. That means things like remote monitoring by the vendor via a direct link to the system so that the diagnostic subsystem can tell the vendor that parts are failing before they fail and then the vendor will usually have a 4 hour or less requirement to get new parts on site, the logistics of which are a lot more expensive than they appear at first glance (gotta have local hardware depots with enough spare parts to cover all contingencies, including multiple simultaneous failures at multiple sites at different side of the city, etc). Then there is the cost of the human expertise - mainframe customers expect 1st-line support to be one level away from engineering - absolutely no scripted phone support weenies. The on-site hardware techs are also a couple of orders above the typical vendor hardware tech who is frequently a jack-of-all-trades and master of none - the mainframe guys are dedicated to mainframe support and are typically on a first-name basis with the engineers who designed the hardware.

      So in summary - extremely rapid response plus top-flight human talent equals big bucks.

      The article did say that the mainframe was old and thus support costs were even higher which is common - as hardware is obsoleted it becomes more and more expensive to stock replacement parts (and engineering staff). So maybe they could shave a hundred grand or two off that price if they were using a mainframe that had not been end-of-lifed a while ago.

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  4. In theory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But here's a more profound question: why is the House of Representatives running its own, separate data centers (primary and disaster)? Couldn't they at least consolidate with, oh I don't know, the Senate?!?!

    I don't know. I kind of like the current situation: Two different significantly powerful political entities (House and Congress) to have their own separate data that the other entity has no control over. I could certainly see potential benefits from that in the times of major political upheavals.

  5. Re:Change all IT geeks can believe in. by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't care what part of the political spectrum you fall under, that's change we can all get behind.

    Congratulations! You may pick up your IT Peace Prize at the door!

    Unless your job was supporting old, proprietary big iron.

    Um, on second thought, never mind.

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  6. Re:Change all IT geeks can believe in. by martin-boundary · · Score: 4, Funny

    Either that, or the IBM salespeople forgot to tell the politicians that a mainframe is too big to fail!

  7. Units by Random+Destruction · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The mainframe was consuming 10,000 to 15,000 watts an hour

    Uh... what? No wonder they had to pull this thing offline, that's 1.68 - 2.52 GW per week!

    It's been online for 12 years, so by the time it was shut off it must have been using at least 1.57TW.

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  8. Keep the Mainframe by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 4, Funny

    Decommission the representatives. Then put the mainframe in charge. I'm sure it is much more efficient at processing bribes, though it probably lacks sex scandal capabilities.