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Large Hadron Collider Scientist Arrested For al-Qaeda Ties

mindbrane writes "A scientist working as a subcontractor on a peripheral LHC project has been arrested as a terrorist. The CBC is running a story outlining the arrest of a man on Thursday in south-east France for suspected al-Qaeda links: 'CERN officials said the man, whose name has not been revealed, was working under contract with an outside institute and said he had no contact with anything that could have been used for terrorism. He had been at CERN since 2003, officials said. ... The news that someone with terrorist connections might have worked at the facility is likely to cause concern because of both the high profile of the giant physics experiment and also the technology in use, which has made some members of the public nervous.'"

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  1. better safe than sorry by Inominate · · Score: 5, Funny

    He could cause the creation of a blackhole that will kill us all!

    Or he could cause a couple of magnets to quench and suck up even more money!

    Maybe the two are related?

    1. Re:better safe than sorry by Jurily · · Score: 3, Funny

      Jean Michel Jarre CD

      So he posessed WMD's?

    2. Re:better safe than sorry by Smegly · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Talking about black holes of information, where did the French secret service get the supposed "evidence" for this supposed list of EU terrorist targets - if there is any? Certainly not off napkin scrawls hidden under the guys bed. Perhaps it was by the normal channels: beating, starving, electrocuting, mauling with dogs then stringing to the roof some Afghan peasant/soldier in a one of the many private corporate run prisons they got set up down there and around the world until he muttered "Mohammad, list of targets, France... lllllhhhhhcccc*gasp*" ?

      OR is this story just about yet another Orwellian military/police state shadow organization trying to justify they are not a *big* part of the "let all hate each other" problem?

      Fscked if we will ever know, the story in all its lack of credibility is out there now and its purpose served. Slashdot only managed to scape it up, make it even worse on details or open to questions of credibility than it already was to begin with. Journalist bloggers wanting to be taken seriously, indeed.

    3. Re:better safe than sorry by mickwd · · Score: 5, Funny

      If wearing an Al-Qaeda tie is causing such a problem, why doesn't someone just ask him to take it off?

      Or get one of those ones held on with elastic.

      Or a spinning bow-tie maybe? Seems quite appropriate for the LHC.

    4. Re:better safe than sorry by Frankenvince · · Score: 3, Funny

      You mean that there are Al-Qaeda fan gears out? About time someone makes some profit out of this. http://www.ThinkQaeda.com/ anyone?

  2. Re:Disbelieve by FireFury03 · · Score: 4, Funny

    So al-Qaeda won't sue for trademark infringement?

  3. Six degrees of separation by AmonTheMetalhead · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Everyone can be linked to Al Qaeda

    1. Re:Six degrees of separation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Everyone can be linked to Al Qaeda

      Some in a lot less than six degrees. Remember Bush was friends with Osama Bin Laden's family. It's not trolling it's a fact. The whole point is the same world leaders that are supposed to be fighting terrorism have close ties to terrorist families or are at least only a few degrees from most terrorist leaders.

    2. Re:Six degrees of separation by PPH · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We funded and armed the predecessors of the Taliban in their fight against the Soviets. And we continued to support them in their suppression of criminal warlords and the opium trade through the mid 1990s. Since the Taliban and al Qaida cooperate and share personnel, its quite probable that 'we' (through the CIA or overtly through the State Department) have supported al Qaida in the past.

      We have a dismal history of keeping tabs on our friinds while we carefully monitor those we consider to be our enemies. But then that's just human nature.

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  4. WMD'S? by therufus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Large Hadron Collider. Now THAT'S a weapon of mass destruction.

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    1. Re:WMD'S? by sakdoctor · · Score: 4, Funny

      But would you be able to smuggle it though airport security?

    2. Re:WMD'S? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 4, Funny

      Of course.

      1. Use LHC to make black hole.
      2. Hide LHC in black hole.
      3. Put black hole in carry on bag.

      Simple.

  5. Re:Disbelieve by ionix5891 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How do you kick ass of an organisation that didnt exist in first place?

    if you tell a lie often enough....

  6. so you don't have to DO anything anymore? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    so you don't have to DO anything anymore to get arrested? He was arrested for "al-Qaeda ties"? what does that mean exactly? Did he kill anyone? Did he plot to kill anyone? Did he know about a plot to kill anyone? It sounds like his sister's friend's neighbor had a cousin who was friends with someone in Al Qaeda back in 1990.

    Also, from TFA: "The news that someone with terrorist connections might have worked at the facility is likely to cause concern because of both the high profile of the giant physics experiment and also the technology in use, which has made some members of the public nervous"

    So people are concerned about someone (with terrorist connections) MIGHT have worked at the facility?!?? OMG that's a reason to start rounding up everybody with brown skin!
    Geesh

    1. Re:so you don't have to DO anything anymore? by rawls · · Score: 5, Funny

      so you don't have to DO anything anymore to get arrested? He was arrested for "al-Qaeda ties"?

      Nobody likes novelty ties. It is about time some legislation was put in place to deal with them.

    2. Re:so you don't have to DO anything anymore? by mike449 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I know a guy who's father was on very good terms with Bin Laden, and even supplied him with weapons and money.
      Oh, wait, that was _before_ he "became a terrorist"...

    3. Re:so you don't have to DO anything anymore? by Xest · · Score: 4, Interesting

      From the articles I've seen about it, he was arrested for communicating the will to commit terrorist acts and had been seeking advice and information on doing just that. He was effectively at the very start of the planning stage.

      Make of that what you will, if they have evidence of intent he could well be a dangerous person.

      It really comes down to what evidence they really did have, and what was included in those communications for which he was arrested.

      The problem is, you and I don't know what evidence they actually do have, and unless we do we can't say if the arrest was justified or not so it seems pointless speculating. If he was picked up simply out of paranoia because he was phoning uncle Abdullah in Pakistan then yeah, it's rediculous. If he was however phoning Mr Mehsud of the Taliban and asking for information producing bombs from house hold material and information on which targets Al Qaeda would most like him to blow up and what kind of casualty figures they were looking for then it's a different story.

      It's a shame it rarely ever comes out what their evidence actually was so we can properly check the validity of arrests like this.

  7. Re:Cue black hole jokes by sopssa · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dont you understand how dangerous black holes would be in *terrorists* hands? They could use them to destroy the whole world. In my opinion only Americans should be allowed to create black holes.

  8. Re:old news? by dword · · Score: 3, Informative

    I thought that this was covered in the press last week, so why is it in /. now??

    Because /. is mostly an aggregator and doesn't bring in fresh news. It just puts all the "news for nerds" that you can find out there in one place.

  9. al-qaeda tie by M8e · · Score: 5, Funny

    I want an al-qaeda tie. I don't care what colour it is, i want one!

    1. Re:al-qaeda tie by asylumx · · Score: 5, Funny

      Careful. After you've worn it a few times it will come out of your tie rack yelling "ALALALALALA" and then explode...

  10. No need for a terrorist attack on the LHC . . . by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Funny

    . . . it seems pretty capable of breaking itself on its own, with any outside help

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  11. Re:Disbelieve by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Funny

    A religious al-Qaeda scientist, without a name. Why do I not believ this.

    I don't believe it as well. It's much more likely that this physicist belongs to the the notorious 'Al-Jabr' group that want to enslave the world with their weapons of Math instruction.

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  12. Re:Disbelieve by MrMr · · Score: 4, Funny

    You mean: A scientist who knows a religious person that may have been involved in a group of which certain members claimed to be associated with Al Qaeda?
    I'd say he's guilty, as in guilt by association in the third degree.
    I'm not worried until somebody is busted for being tied with Al Qaeda in the sixth degree.

  13. Re:Disbelieve by 4D6963 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It does exist, although only in the sense that the group Anonymous exists. That's the same lack of hierarchy/organisation/official structure. In my analogy, moot = Osama bin Laden.

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  14. Re:Disbelieve by selven · · Score: 4, Funny

    I failed to derive even the slightest bit of humor from that joke.

  15. Re:Cue black hole jokes by Robin47 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Imagine trying to smuggle one onto an airplane... "I'm sorry, sir, your bag is overweight."

  16. You did your reading, didn't you? by S3D · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Foundation (Al-Quaeda in Arabic) will be created in 12000 years by Harry Seldon, as the result of nuclear proliferation initiated by time-traveling terrorist, inspired by subversive element from Hidden Centuries.

  17. Better news article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is a much better news article than the one from CBC:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nuclear-terror-suspect-is-top-physicist-1800927.html

    It names the suspect and it explains how he was tracked and arrested.
    According to the article, the suspect studied for his PhD at the Stanford University Linear Accelerator Center, stayed at EPFL and has published several articles.

  18. And I thought the al quaeda BS would finally stop by AlgorithMan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And I thought after we got rid of george w bush, all the "al quaeda this" and "axis of evil that" and "osama this" and "emmanuel goldstein that", "give me all your money and all your rights or they'll kill you" would finally stop...

    you know the literal translation of the word "terror" from latin is "fear" and a "terrorist" by definition is someone who makes you afraid. some people make you afraid by crashing planes or detonating bombs in your country or by sending you terror-threat videos. some people make you afraid by constantly telling you there was a bogeyman that is about to kill you - using his weapons of mass destruction unless we start a war etc.

    wake up! your own government and your own media terrorize you far worse than al quaeda ever did! If you run scared everytime someone says "bogeyman", then the terrorists have won, because you are scared and THAT is exactly what they WANT

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  19. Re:Cue black hole jokes by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Funny

    The good news is that the National Ray-Gun Association is fighting the 3-day waiting period for mad scientists.

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  20. Re:Cue black hole jokes by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wait, is that "good" news, or "Good news everybody!" news?

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  21. Re:But i thought... by m.ducharme · · Score: 5, Interesting

    More seriously, Obama winning the prize reflects poorly on the Nobel committee, not on him.

    I worked in a pizza place where the manager had an interesting strategy for improving the performance of some employees. He would give a particular employee, who'd been slacking, the Employee of the Month Award. Getting this award would often encourage that employee to pick it up, and they'd become diligent enough to deserve the award. Maybe the Nobel committee is hoping for the same effect here? They gave a Peace prize to Yasser Arafat some time ago as well, as I recall.

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  22. Re:Cue black hole jokes by orkysoft · · Score: 4, Funny

    You could try placing it in a Bag of Holding ;-)

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  23. Re:Better news article - More to this by westlake · · Score: 4, Insightful
    First off, it's hard to believe guys like this decide to blow things up.

    It isn't hard to believe at all.

    Intellectuals of a certain type have always been attracted to games of espionage, treason and conspiracy - and "game" is, I think, the right word here:

    Cambridge Five, Whittaker Chambers

    Most probably don't expect to be around when things blow up - but now and again you may find an exception: 2001 Anthrax Attacks

    These guys are so smart.

    The geek really ought to have learned by now that the smart and the arrogant make stupid mistakes. Hans Reiser