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First European Commander of the ISS

RobGoldsmith writes 'ESA astronaut Frank De Winne became the first European commander of the International Space Station this morning with the departure of Russian cosmonaut Gennady Padalka who had filled this role since April. De Winne is the first non-American and non-Russian to take on this role. Watch the videos and view images here.'

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  1. Russia... by AJWM · · Score: 5, Insightful

    isn't part of Europe?

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    1. Re:Russia... by Bureaucromancer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      More to the point, it's not part of the European Union, and as such has it's own space program. As such De Winn is the first form the European Space Agency, which imo makes calling him the first European within reason. Keep in mind that geographically the Asia/Europe division is pretty much arbitrary anyway.

    2. Re:Russia... by tverbeek · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Frank De Winne of the EU is the first "European" commander (and all the Russian commanders don't count) in the same sense that people from the United States are "Americans" while people from Canada, Panama, Chile, etc. are not. It's not geographically accurate, but it's culturally/politically meaningful.

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  2. We rule the ISS and IOC now :-) by wimg · · Score: 4, Funny

    A Belgian is now commander of the ISS and president of the IOC... and next year probably chairman of the UN Security Council :-)

  3. Commander of what precisely? by icebike · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What does being commander entail?

    In an emergency I suppose someone would be responsible for barking orders.

    But realistically everyone up there, (now that the Cirque du Soleil clown is gone) are professionals and scientific types, and virtually all work schedules are managed by ground support teams.

    Commanders in such a working environment generally are cajolers rather than of commanders anyway, but with the working environment I can't see them having much real need of a commander on a day to day basis, other than to lobby ground controllers for workload changes, or more snacks in the next cargo ship.

    I suppose if they are still bickering over who gets to use which toilet they might have selected the Euro guy to take the edge off the situation.

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  4. Feeling Left Out by hedgemage · · Score: 4, Funny

    A major gripe in the Russian psyche is that they are 'left out' of Europe despite the fact that the majority of their population is in what is geographically defined as Europe. Way to go and snub them.

  5. Russia Is Clearly European by andersh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Have you even been to Europe? Of course we consider Russians Europeans! There is no doubt about that! People from the Soviet Republics however are a different matter, and even within the present Russian Federation there are many ethnic peoples!

    We sometimes make the distinction because they are so large and have gone through a tough time lately (from Soviet times to Putin). Imperial Russia was at the heart of Europe, and only the Soviet era changed that. St Petersburg was the crown of Russias European identity!

    Slavs are Europeans no matter what country in Europe they come from. Slavs are not limited to Russia you know, from Serbia to Russia Eastern Europe is full of Slavic people(s).

    I'm a European, specifically a Scandinavian, and we absolutely see Russians as Europeans.

  6. ESA NOT EU by andersh · · Score: 4, Informative

    The ESA is not a part of the European Union and includes member nations outside of the EU and even Europe! Norway and Switzerland are members of ESA but not the EU. And Canada is a member but is not a European country!

    The European Space Agency (ESA), established in 1975, is an intergovernmental organisation dedicated to the exploration of space, currently with 18 member states.

  7. seriously... by voss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Something happens on the space station and for some reason the station cant communicate with earth...whos in charge?

    The station commander.

    In an emergency he would make certain decisions such abandon the station or stay put.

    While ground controllers can give direction, you always want to have someone on site who can actually
      act on those directions and tell people what to do. A station commander is not for things you expect, its for the things
    you dont expect.

  8. Re:Let me be the first... by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He's probably OK. Generally, it only seems to be the French that get offended when it comes to language.