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Hands-On Look At the BlackBerry Storm 2

Barence writes "PC Pro has had time to play with the new BlackBerry Storm 2, and came away impressed. The new touch system garners the most praise, doing away with the mechanical click screen of the original Storm — the new screen gives a kind of localised haptic feedback which 'feels just like clicking a button.' The phone, announced today, also includes Wi-Fi, BlackBerry OS 5, and increased storage, so it's looking an enticing prospect. After the disappointment of the Palm Pre, could this be the smartphone to beat?"

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  1. LOL by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    After the disappointment of the Palm Pre, could this be the smartphone to beat?"

    Um, yeah, let's not mention the elephant in the room, shall we?

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    1. Re:LOL by mvdwege · · Score: 4, Funny

      It will indeed take some time to beat Nokia.

      Mart

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    2. Re:LOL by Shane112358 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The Palm Pre was certainly only a disappointment to those people who expected it to be the second coming of Jesus or to overtake the iPhone within months of release. I have a Pre and it is the best phone I have ever owned. The OS is top notch. The hardware isn't perfect but neither was the iPhone when it came out. As someone else said, the problem is that you need to compete with the ecology of Apple - not just the h/w or s/w. So even if all the small shortcomings of WebOS are addressed, and the next Pre has none of the h/w issues of the first, and it's very popular - it still doesn't mean that it will "kill" the iPhone. It will take a while - at least a year or so - for the iPhone to be dethroned by any competing architecture. It will happen, for sure. Whether it's one year or ten years from now is up to Apple, their competitors, and shear luck.

    3. Re:LOL by Anonymous+Monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I state them as separate because the people I know with iPhones use them differently than other smart phone users. I have had some one hand me their iPhone with a map loaded to show me how to get to a restaurant, something normally done verbally or with a quick sketch. I know iPhone users who keep their complete photo collection on their phone, most people use the phone to hold snapshots only. A friend of mine uses his iPhone to watch movies, no other smart phone user I know keeps movies with him. The iPhone is, in my opinion, a portable media computer with phone functionality. The first real attempt to make a Tricorder prehaps, but the difference between an iPhone and the average smart phone is as great as the difference between the average smart phone and my moms cell phone without a camera.

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  2. Blackberry would be more compelling by swb · · Score: 4, Informative

    If there was more direct data in/out to the device, versus "securely" routing everything through RIM. That model seems like it makes sense in a 1999 way, but now it just makes it awkward to use them outside of a BES environment.

    The iPhone may be a closed platform, but at least data I/O isn't forced through Apple's servers.

  3. "feels just like clicking a button" by toppavak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I was under the impression that the problem most users have with touchscreens isn't feedback after clicking, but before. I can touch-type on my blackberry, which lets me go a lot faster than on smooth touchscreens because I can tell my finger is on the right button by feel.

    1. Re:"feels just like clicking a button" by Anonymusing · · Score: 4, Informative

      I am so used to the iPhone "keyboard" now that I can essentially touch-type. Sometimes I fat-finger it and hit the wrong key, but the correction feature is pretty good about that. I'm not saying the iPhone is better or worse than other smartphones; merely, it's what I have now, and the typing does not feel much different than when I had a Blackberry.

      FWIW, I type roughly 85 words a minute on a full-size keyboard (with 95% accuracy).

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    2. Re:"feels just like clicking a button" by bluesky74656 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think there's something to the fact that the iPhone's auto-correction is more suited to a touchscreen than the Blackberry's. I've found that while the Blackberry's spell-check is very good for people who sometimes make spelling errors, the iPhone's is much better about fixing fat-finger syndrome.

      I would almost be tempted to say that the iPhone's spell-check puts more weight on where keys are located, while the Blackberry's is more of a straight dictionary search

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  4. "Developers, Developers, Developers..." by nweaver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To quote MonkeyBoy, err, Steve Ballmer...

    This is why the iPhone has become so entrenched, it has the developers. Its not just a matter of building hardware that matches Apple, you now have to build an ecology to match Apple.

    Which is very hard: . Look at the MP3 player market. People have made plenty of players better than the iPod-of-the-time, but Apple has the ecology annd is now hard to displace.

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  5. Re:Disappointment of the Palm Pre? by giverson · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yeah, I don't get that. I absolutely love my Pre. And to answer your question, Exchange syncing works great.

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  6. The Disappointment of the Palm Pre by brennanw · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... I know exactly what you're talking about! After buying my Pre, I found that:

      - I didn't immediately lose weight
      - I still had to wear glasses
      - the damage to my hearing (after 20 years of listening to good music) wasn't repaired
      - my credit limit wasn't raised, and my day-to-day living expenses weren't reduced

    Sure, overall it's a great phone, as far as portable phones that store important information, take pictures, play music and access the internet go, but those four points stick in my craw. Fail!

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  7. The important question... by Linker3000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Does it support IMAP/POP/SMTP natively or are you still stuck with the pile-of-crap BIS/BES services for email (or using Web interfaces or third party java apps)?

    I won't even consider looking at this model for the rest of our small (16) corporate team unless we can use our own (postfix-based) mail servers. The fact that we have to hand over our email account usernames and passwords AND pay just so the Vodafone BIS server can pick up mail and kindly pass it on to the Blackberries (and vice versa) is simply crap, a security risk and a PITA if a user changes their password via our mail server's Web interface.

    That is why I have an HTC Rhodium (Touch Pro 2)!

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  8. Rolling disappointment by Maury+Markowitz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > After the disappointment of the Palm Pre, could this be the smartphone to beat?

    Does everyone already forget that the Pre was going to be the one to beat after the disappointment of the Storm? Clearly the Pre 2 will be the one to beat after the disappointment of the

    There's nothing wrong with the Pre, and the "disappointment" has little to do with the phone. The disappointment is that it didn't stop the iPhone from clobbering them in the market in spite of the hue and cry from the haters and fanbois alike. If you define your disappointment by the lack of relative sales, then my guess is that this is going to be a disappointment too.

    It's not about the phone, it's about what you can get onto the phone quickly and easily. Anyone that's Midomi'd a song while walking past a bar patio and then instantly downloaded it from iTunes knows what I mean. Consumers get this, and it seems only the self-declared "experts" who are missing this forest.

    Maury

  9. Re:If they want the storm2 to be more successful.. by seanmeister · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can bash VZW's CDMA network all you want, but as long as they keep giving me 4 bars of EVDO goodness out here in the desert in rural southwestern New Mexico, they'll get nothing but love from me :)

  10. On VZW do I want the Storm 2 or Android? by edmicman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Serious question - I'm a dumbphone user finally wanting to move to a smartphone, and in the next couple of months. I have to (read: want to) stay on Verizon, and don't want a Windows Mobile phone. I've decided on either the Storm2 or the upcoming Android phones, but am not sure which to go with.

    Essentially what I want is a phone that I can email/message/facebook/twitter/do tasks/organize my life with. I want to be able to browse the web, but I don't see myself spending lots of time doing that; usually I see it just looking up something quick. I also don't see myself as a big apps/games user, but then again having never had that experience I don't know - maybe I would if the opportunity were there.

    From what I can tell, my impressions are:
    BB pros:
    better build quality
    good (best?) messaging/email ability (I don't really know, but figured that was their background so it must be very good?)
    relatively proven track record for phones like this

    BB cons:
    lack of webkit browser (aren't they supposed to be working on this? when? would the S2 get it eventually?)
    generally "closed" system
    I have the perception there's less consumer app development for BB than with other platforms

    Android pros:
    webkit browser
    open system
    app development seems to have more potential, especially with consumer apps

    Android cons:
    how is the messaging? Does it work well?
    still young...although that doesn't bother me that much
    from what I have seen of the VZW leaks, the form factors don't seem as nice as the BB.

    Having experience with neither, I don't really know if I have a preference between hard or soft keyboards.

    Thoughts or advice?