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Sonar Software Detects Laptop User Presence

Steve Tarzia writes "A research group at Northwestern University and University of Michigan has released open-source display power-management software that uses a new user presence detection technique. The goal is to shut off the display immediately when the user leaves the computer rather than using slow and error-prone mouse/keyboard activity timeouts. Surprisingly, the mic and speakers of many laptop computers are sensitive to ultrasonic frequencies. Those frequencies can be used to silently probe the laptop's physical environment. This software is based on research published at the UbiComp2009 conference. A Windows binary and source code for Windows and Linux are available for download."

167 comments

  1. Activity by sopssa · · Score: 1

    Mouse/keyboard activity timeout works nicely for that. I rather don't have the computer know if I'm walking near it or not. But it seems we're heading in to this "everyone, and every machine, knows where you are" every day. Thank god I'm already old and not born in to this shit.

    1. Re:Activity by lordandmaker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Mouse/keyboard activity timeout works nicely for that.

      I find it doesn't. My PC at work has to be configured to require a password be entered on exiting the screensaver, and my password has to be quite complex. If I'm working on something that's not the PC (yeah, we still use paper for things) for longer than the minute, I've got to enter my password to carry on, which is irritating.
      It's less irritating when it kicks in when I'm reading or watching a video or something, but I'd still prefer it not to, and I really don't see the privacy angle on this. It's no idea where I am, just that there's something in front of it.

      But, generally, I don't have much of a problem with my computer knowing all sorts of stuff about me, it's what it tells to who that I concern myself with.

    2. Re:Activity by jhfry · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Your privacy concerns are valid... however think of the applications for this tech.

      Your instant messenger will know when your available or not.
      Your phone system could direct your calls to you mobile if your away from the desk.

      Proximity may also be important break for the future of voice activated computing. If the computer knows your there, it can listen, and when you leave it ignores any sounds.

      I think there will be applications for this tech far beyond pc's, especially once it becomes common.

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    3. Re:Activity by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Informative

      Mouse/keyboard activity timeout works nicely for that.

      Er not really. You need to set it to long enough that it doesn't time out every time you read a page of text (unless you just like idly dragging the mouse around while reading... i don't). Yet you want it short enough that it provides power savings. The LCD screen is a big power hog in a laptop. Being able to turn it off instantly as soon as you walk away, and turn back on when you sit back down, would be the best of both worlds of power savings and convenience.

      I rather don't have the computer know if I'm walking near it or not. But it seems we're heading in to this "everyone, and every machine, knows where you are" every day.

      Yeah I'd be more worried about the fact that your computer knows every single thing you type, and every single thing you read. ZOMG!

      But seriously. It knows whether you are in front of your laptop or not. Are you often running your laptop when you aren't around at all, such that the assumption that your laptop being on and connected to the network is generally accurate? Like it's a big danger that the laptop knows you aren't there anymore when you get up for a quick piss break. Not that it knows you went to the bathroom!

      Besides, it's open source. If you're that worried that it's going to report your location to The Man, check the source code.

      And hey, if you're really worried about realistic ways for The Man to find you, take the battery out of your cellphone. Seriously, that's a real way in which the phone company/police can locate you.

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    4. Re:Activity by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Your privacy concerns are valid... however think of the applications for this tech.

      /+5 Hat of Greed equipped.

      Oooh, I'm drooling! Let's see:

      $APP detects two people within viewing distance of your monitor. [click here] to upgrade to the appropriate license.

      /+5 Hat of Greed unequipped.
      /+5 Hat of Stealth equipped.

      Oooh, I'm drooling for different reasons. Let's see:

      $APP detects additional person approaching monitor. Autominimize firefox://ridiculous.pornsite.com; automaximize firefox://romanticweekendgetawayswiththewife.toshowherhowmuchyouloveher.com.

      Whew, that was a close one.

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    5. Re:Activity by Jurily · · Score: 1

      Mouse/keyboard activity timeout works nicely for that.

      Actually, it doesn't. What if I'm watching a movie with mplayer from the bed? (Yes, Vista starts up indexing and screen savers based on keyboard and mouse input. It sucks.)

      Of course, ultrasonic won't solve this. Who the fuck said I can only use my computer if I'm sitting in front of it? So now if I'm running an overnight batch job, the CPU and I/O are up for grabs?

      Thank god I'm already old and not born in to this shit.

      Me too. I'm 23.

    6. Re:Activity by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      So what do you do about the period of time between when you stop typing and walk away, and when the computer times out and locks the system down.

      Too short of a time out and it annoys the piss out of you everytime it locks the machine while you compose a thought in your head, which means you get distracted, lose the thought and have to start over.

      Too long of a time out and when you walk away, I walk up and own you.

      For most people, the longer timeout isn't a big concern, they aren't really doing anything THAT important that it matters, which is why those people also tend to leave purses on the desk, with unlocked drawers and all sorts of other items laying on them.

      But if you work somewhere that security is a high priority, and you trust no one around you, the ball game is a little different and you want to do your best to not depend on 'fallback' methods such as timeouts, which are really just a pathetic last ditch attempt at security. I'm not saying to stop using it, but for people to whom this stuff ACTUALLY MATTERS, its a piss poor solution.

      You and I? Its more than adequate.

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    7. Re:Activity by Fluffeh · · Score: 1

      But it seems we're heading in to this "everyone, and every machine, knows where you are" every day. Thank god I'm already old and not born in to this shit.

      It's okay, just make friends with your new laptopian overlord and you two should get on just fine.

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    8. Re:Activity by BitZtream · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your instant messenger will know when your available or not.
      Your phone system could direct your calls to you mobile if your away from the desk.

      I think this is EXACTLY what he is concerned with. Do you realize how much information you tell others in the world about you with JUST your IM status? Do you realize how easy it is to use this simple bit of information already to plot crimes? Give me a week of watching little more than the IM status of active IMs and twitterers and I can pretty much tell you where you are at during any point in your day if your using a regular schedule.

      He cares and is concerned about this potential problem.

      You haven't even realized how big of a problem it is.

      Roughly speaking, IM status is nearly as good as hang a sign on your home that automatically says 'No One Home!' when you leave.

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    9. Re:Activity by mysidia · · Score: 1

      The computer as a whole doesn't have to know you're there or not. The program running the sonar just has to know you weren't there at one point, to trigger the locking.

      By the way, if this one program, can figure it out, then any program would've been able to figure it out all along, using the same technique...

      This isn't a security issue that would be "patched".. there's just a workaround of not having a mic, or use a headset instead, or physically mute/disconnect your mic when not in use.

      Heck, you could even use the 'mute' switch as a way to quickly lock the computer. Detect background noise instead of doing fancy schmancy sonar.

    10. Re:Activity by jijacob · · Score: 2, Informative

      I use blueproximity on ubuntu. Set the distance and it works pretty well to lock (and unlock) my computer when I am away. The unlock could, I'm sure, be easily spoofed, so if you were in a high-sensitivity location you might want to disable the second half of this software.

    11. Re:Activity by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

      I'm thinking of a sentient computer system in the basement watching humans move around on a huge floor plan that it has of the building, with sonar coverage shaded.. every computer in the building acting as an active sonar sensor.. every movement into and out of thru hallways counted to track how many people are in each area..

    12. Re:Activity by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

      Yeah I'd be more worried about the fact that your computer knows every single thing you type, and every single thing you read. ZOMG!

      Read and type into your computer. The computer exploring its environment is new.

      Besides, it's open source. If you're that worried that it's going to report your location to The Man, check the source code.

      It's a technology that can just as easily be implemented in closed source..

    13. Re:Activity by maharb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      IM status can be set manually so if you are concerned about privacy... set it manually. Not to mention just because your SYSTEM knows things about you doesn't mean you must pass it on to any app, especially networked ones. Your system knows all sorts of things that it doesn't readily share.

      Believe it or not people can determine all sorts of things about you IRL just by watching too. In fact, IRL, you are way more prone to being tracked and monitored than online. Imagine, someone can see you leave your house, go in, steal shit, and leave all by watching you. We need to fix that bug IRL asap.

      I can't believe the level of unjust paranoia you are experiencing. The fact is if people care enough to track you, they will be able to. It doesn't matter if you have a laptop that turns off when you leave it or not. Also, how does a 5 minute delay from a regular inactivity time out differ from this so much that this tech is all of the sudden dangerous. It seems to me like people can be monitored via IM just as easy right now as if this was being widely used, just with a tad bit more 'false present' status existing.

    14. Re:Activity by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      The computer as a whole doesn't have to know you're there or not. The program running the sonar just has to know you weren't there at one point, to trigger the locking.

      By the way, if this one program, can figure it out, then any program would've been able to figure it out all along, using the same technique...

      This isn't a security issue that would be "patched".. there's just a workaround of not having a mic, or use a headset instead, or physically mute/disconnect your mic when not in use.

      Well, actually I think it is a security issue that should be patched. The fact that the hardware and software allows programs to record audio through the microphone without any kind of status indicator (as with the LED featured on some webcams to indicate they're active) is, IMO, a security failure. Not just because of the whole "sonar" thing, but because it allows any program running on your computer to record any conversations you're having within earshot...

      I'm not too concerned about this, personally - I haven't removed the mic or blocked access to it in software or anything... I'm just sayin', this could be an issue on par with keyloggers. The only difference is it's a lot easier to automatically process the info from a keylogger.

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    15. Re:Activity by sopssa · · Score: 1

      Actually, exactly so. Not that I have even thought about it either, but granting an application access to the microphone should really be some security feature in the OS. By far none of the Windows, Linux, Mac or BSD are doing it

    16. Re:Activity by rockNme2349 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Like batman?

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    17. Re:Activity by socceroos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would suggest that if you were in a high-sensitivity location you shouldn't have this software at all. Because, all it would take is for someone to keep your desktop from locking when you walk away by spoofing your bluetooth connection.

    18. Re:Activity by sqrt(2) · · Score: 1

      You can set your client to block anyone you don't have on your list from contacting you or seeing your status. The only people on my IM list are people I know and trust not to rob me...well some of them do like to come over and mooch off my food and beer, but that's a different matter.

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    19. Re:Activity by Sam36 · · Score: 0

      That is hilarious and I agree, unfortunately I am only in my 20's

    20. Re:Activity by element-o.p. · · Score: 1

      Close, but I was thinking $APP detects additional person, yadda, yadda. Autominimize /. ; automaximize corporate intranet.

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    21. Re:Activity by geekoid · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      You're a paranoid idiot.

      Impractical and unrealistic in the extreme .

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    22. Re:Activity by geekoid · · Score: 2, Funny

      Write a script to move the mouse for you. just a few pixels will do.

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    23. Re:Activity by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      Read and type into your computer. The computer exploring its environment is new.

      Webcams.

      It's a technology that can just as easily be implemented in closed source..

      Then don't use a closed source system if you're worried about The Man putting this technology onto your computer and monitoring the output without your knowledge. And if you are using such a system, how in fact do you know it isn't already there?

      Complaining about this in the context of the application stated is kinda silly.

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    24. Re:Activity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But this is good for the future of Skynet, now it can locate the pesky meatbags much easier

    25. Re:Activity by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      That might be because the sole purpose of a microphone is to be accessed and used by applications... The OS doesn't need a microphone, any more than it needs a printer. It doesn't grant and revoke access to the printer either. There are currently zero problems that can be solved by having the OS restrict access to the microphone. You can always turn it off if you're not using it.

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    26. Re:Activity by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Funny

      Also, how does a 5 minute delay from a regular inactivity time out differ from this so much that this tech is all of the sudden dangerous. It seems to me like people can be monitored via IM just as easy right now as if this was being widely used, just with a tad bit more 'false present' status existing.

      Because 5 minutes is the maximum amount of time I can be outside before I get scared of the big ball of fire in the sky and have to run back in. If the crooks think I'm home that whole time, I'll always be safe.

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    27. Re:Activity by wealthychef · · Score: 1

      Thank god I'm already old and not born in to this shit.

      Spoken like a truly old person.

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    28. Re:Activity by wealthychef · · Score: 1

      Or "24"

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    29. Re:Activity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can do it on Linux with SELinux, but you don't even need to get that complicated. Standard file permission settings on /dev/dsp (read-write for root, write-only for others) would do the job - on Mac and BSD as well. (unless you like teleconferencing, of course, in which case... yeah, SELinux)

      If you're running Windows, well, something listening to the microphone is far down the list of security holes that need to be covered.

    30. Re:Activity by mftb · · Score: 1

      Linux has the audio usergroup. You could, if you wanted to, remove yourself from the audio usergroup or manually mess with permissions on the audio device such that only root could access the mic so you would need to supply a password every time the mic was requested by a program.

    31. Re:Activity by Miamicanes · · Score: 1

      > Mouse/keyboard activity timeout works nicely for that.

      You know, I'm sure it's just my imagination or a coincidence, but it really DOES seem like Vista on my desktop PC doesn't go into power-saving mode UNTIL it perceives a tiny, tiny mouse wiggle after a long period of inactivity. It seems like I can leave my computer on, walk away, and see it running in full-power mode for hours... then the nanosecond I sit down and bump the desk, it decides to power down the panel. I'm halfway tempted to put a camcorder on a tripod and just leave it capturing for a while, then the next time I think it happens, go back and watch the last few minutes of video beforehand to see what really happened to make me think it did something crazy like that.

    32. Re:Activity by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "Thank god I'm already old and not born in to this shit."

      I'm old, there is no god, and I would be fine with "being born into this shit" because "shit" now is MUCH more interesting than it was in 1959 when I was born. (Note to self, "avoid lawn")

      Youngsters, don't believe the lies. The only things about the "good old days" that were worth a damn were that good drugs were cheap and HIV hadn't arrived yet.

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    33. Re:Activity by Sparr0 · · Score: 1

      I know numerous people who have bluetooth phones linked to their macs, and iChat sets their here/away status based on the state of the BT connection. This is particularly annoying when someone walks PAST their desk during the work day.

    34. Re:Activity by Sparr0 · · Score: 1

      I have recently noticed that on Vista Home Premium on my laptop, the screen blanks when I am away. When I come back and wiggle the mouse, the first thing I see when the screen wakes up is "Locking your computer" for a fraction of a second, THEN the "Locked, please enter password" screen.

    35. Re:Activity by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Can you? My IM runs on my phone. So it basically just says I'm always available.

    36. Re:Activity by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Right, because it's much worse for the computer to know there's something in front of it as opposed to just knowing there's someone typing or moving the mouse.

    37. Re:Activity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what do you do about the period of time between when you stop typing and walk away, and when the computer times out and locks the system down.

      You walk away from your computer and leave it unlocked?

    38. Re:Activity by ubersoldat2k7 · · Score: 1

      Or simply steal the stupid laptop when you go to the bathroom.

    39. Re:Activity by RMH101 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How would you suggest turning off a laptop mic? No hardware switch to do so (unless you've a BIOS option to do it, which I doubt). You could disable the sound card in device manager, but then you've no audio. Seems a valid security issue - nothing stopping an app turning it up in the mixer and recording...

    40. Re:Activity by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      $APP detects additional person approaching monitor. Autominimize firefox://ridiculous.pornsite.com; automaximize firefox://romanticweekendgetawayswiththewife.toshowherhowmuchyouloveher.com.

      Whew, that was a close one.

      That's a very bad idea. The proximity detector will not be able to distinguish between your girlfriend and your wife.

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    41. Re:Activity by houghi · · Score: 1

      I agree that anybody could be in front of it. A better way might be using just your bluetooth to detect if your phone is at your desk. For me that works as I seldom leave without my phone.

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    42. Re:Activity by markov_chain · · Score: 1

      Thank god I'm already old and not born in to this shit.

      Another benefit of being old is that you won't hear the annoying ultrasonic chirps like us young people do :)

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    43. Re:Activity by mysidia · · Score: 1

      A well placed piece of tape and preferably a bit of foam, to further prevent audio from entering the mic.

    44. Re:Activity by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      Even if it's not possible to turn off the mic, again, there are currently zero security problems involving the microphone. This is just paranoia.

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    45. Re:Activity by crolix · · Score: 1

      No, you got this backwards. Such software is to prevent the screensaver from running, not to depend on it to lock the computer. While it does lock the computer too, you are not supposed to rely on it and should instead make it a habit to use the standard ctrl+alt+l or win+l shortcuts.

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    46. Re:Activity by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      $APP detects two people within viewing distance of your monitor

      ...and it will say:
      "Feckle Freezer! Feckle Freezer! Feckle! Feckle! Feckle Freezer!"

    47. Re:Activity by socceroos · · Score: 1

      Sometimes, in a highly-sensitive location, stealing the laptop would be a brash move that would result in the victim being aware of the theft and thereby closing down the window of opportunity the attacker had to infiltrate their target or network.

      Not all reasons for hacking is to look at their goat pr0n collection. Sometimes they do actually want to be more subtle for varied reasons.

    48. Re:Activity by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Then put a sensor in your chair, detecting that you sit in it. That's so easy, I did it when I was 12. If you have no knowledge of electronics, just buy the cheapest USB mouse you can find, and take it apart. Then put it somewhere in/on your chair, where sitting down pushes one of the mouse buttons. No change your HAL config files (in /etc/hal/) to not detect it as a mouse, but just trigger an even on pressing an releasing of the button. Done.

      Would be a nice hobby project.

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    49. Re:Activity by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      An audio group is what every Linux out there does. Even Gentoo with all its "you have to do this by hand" (which I prefer because I would do it anyway).

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  2. Safe? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 2, Funny

    Damn, now PETA is going to bitch about what happens when dolphins use these laptops.

    1. Re:Safe? by El+Torico · · Score: 5, Funny

      "We can't use that laptop here, this is bat country!"

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    2. Re:Safe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the funniest comment I've read on Slashdot in months.

  3. Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by gpronger · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Don't know if I type slow, think slow, or both, but one of my pet annoyances is when the screen saver kicks-in as I'm staring at the screen in thought (sure I know how to set it, but I am not always in front of my own PC, and oft away and then back a lot through the day).

    If this will simply tell the OS, hold on, he's sitting there doing something, I'd find it a pretty neat idea.

    Greg

    1. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

      I, too, often find myself looking at a screen for extended periods of time without touching the mouse or keyboard, while I, ah... read the articles. Nothing ruins a good article more than having the screen saver start up right as you are about to finish.

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    2. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by schon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Something like this has been available for KDE for ages, only it uses Bluetooth.

      You tell it to listen for your phone - when you leave your desk (presumably with the phone in your pocket/holster/etc.) the screen lock kicks in.

    3. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't time your screensaver so aggressively. Turning the screen off after just a few minutes is useless and just puts unnecessary strain on the backlight (which takes only a limited number of power cycles, unless it is LED).

      I use Ampsoft's Screen Saver Control to manually put the screen into power saving mode with Win+P (and the standard Win+L to lock the screen, if I think that's necessary). I have set the power saving mode to kick in after 2 hours of inactivity otherwise.

    4. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, a totally different and unrelated way to tell if someone has gotten up and left. Amazing!! Glad they thought of this already.

    5. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read faster.

    6. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by aztracker1 · · Score: 1

      Happens to me a lot more often when I watch a web video that's more than 2 minutes long...

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    7. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1

      Hi! I'm Clippy. I see you're trying to think, but nothing is happening!

      credit to one of the three stooges who had that line; "I keep trying to think, but nothing happens."

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    8. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by aztracker1 · · Score: 1

      Of course if you happen to charge your phone near your computer, you're screwed.

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    9. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by jmerlin · · Score: 2, Funny

      You actually read the articles?

    10. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 2, Funny

      That whooshing sound you hear is not your laptop's sonar.

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    11. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You make fun of it, some of us only really read the internet for the articles!

    12. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by amicusNYCL · · Score: 3, Funny

      I, too, often find myself looking at a screen for extended periods of time without touching the mouse or keyboard, while I, ah... read the articles. Nothing ruins a good article more than having the screen saver start up right as you are about to finish.

      That's funny, the exact same thing happens to me when I'm watching porn.

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    13. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, You have a job?

    14. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by spun · · Score: 3, Funny

      My God. There's porn on the Internet now?

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    15. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by Ocker3 · · Score: 1

      Yup, news about that was posted on /. just last week, we were all giddy with excitement, pity you missed the launch party, we had dancing girls and Everything!

    16. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by dlgeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, I know this was intended as a humorous remark, and yes I get the joke (please refrain from any "woosh" comments), but in all seriousness, this actually is an issue for X11 based systems.

      Due to a poor design choice in X11, applications can see when the mouse moves but can not see button press events in other applications. One result of this is that screensavers can't detect a mouse wheel. Thus, if you're scrolling through a long article, the mouse wheel events aren't seen, the screensaver considers you idle, and will lock the screen even as you're scrolling.

      It's actually quite annoying...

    17. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by puregen1us · · Score: 1

      Yes, and I had it running on OSX about 5 years ago too as part of Salling Clicker.

      It's just remote control software, but one of the functions was to detect the presence of the phone.

      Alernatively you can turn up the volume as you walk away too, or pause music, video, etc.

    18. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by gpronger · · Score: 1

      And I always found the "Three Stooges" thought provoking!

    19. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      He only reads the web for the articles.

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    20. Re:Takes Care of one of my pet peeves by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      You're lucky. I held a launch party and all I got were some porn-themed plastic bags and napkins and a "Steve Ballmer signature edition" DVD I'm still too afraid to even touch.

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  4. I saw this movie already. by SOdhner · · Score: 1

    Looks like someone has been watching The Dark Knight.

    Hooray, Batman science!

    1. Re:I saw this movie already. by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      That's Bat-science.

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  5. I'm still here! by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm just asleep, you insensitive clod! (or does it detect snoring?)

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  6. A new means for laptop theft protection? by wehe · · Score: 1

    Can this tool be used as a means for laptop theft and loss protection?

  7. I wonder how... by Whorhay · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder how fine of a resolution is possible with a setup like this with generic microphones and speakers. Maybe it would be possible to use this as a biometric lock on a computer system. It could function as a facial recognition check using the ultrasound picture or series of pictures of your face. Lighting wouldn't affect it and someone couldn't simply use a picture of you to try and fool the camera. Even a bust of your face wouldn't work the same unless it accurately simulated your bone structure and flesh.

    1. Re:I wonder how... by Nos. · · Score: 1

      It would probably be fairly limited with only one mic to work from and two speakers that would likely be relatively close together.

    2. Re:I wonder how... by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      Yes, because your generic PC speakers and mics which are in different configurations on every model of laptop out there are made to produce images.

      What this will give you is 'there is something large near me, approximately X far away from this computer. Where X is somewhere near about the average distance between the user and the speakers and the user and the mic.

      If someone ACTUALLY wanted to implement this tech, they'd just stop putting the IR unit on laptops in weird places such as the front edge or the side and put it on the top of the display, right next to the web cam that almost every laptop now days has that is more than capable of doing the same thing, and certainly FAR FAR more capable doing it than the speakers and mic.

      Wait, that is where my IR unit is! A slight firmware mod and its now capable of doing exactly the same thing, but actually not sucking as at it.

      Of course that was just my first thought. The idea of trying to shoehorn a cheapo speaker/mic combo (and all laptops have shitty sound systems, regardless of how much extra you paid for them) into an imaging device is just silly. There are at least 5 better ways to do it that would be more cost effective and require far less modification.

      As far as the webcam not working when its dark ... they aren't human eyes, they don't see the same way we do, even if what they do see is translated into roughly the same thing you would see. They are more than capable of seeing infrared as soon as you remove the IR filter present on most of them. No backlight needed, you provide it with your own body heat. And its actually CHEAPER as you are removing components from the build.

      Sonar gets used when every other far better method we have won't work due to cost in most cases, it rates only slightly higher than 'can we feel it with our hands' as far as imaging, unless of course you're on a nuclear powered sub with millions and millions of dollars worth of equipment and sensors listening to the ocean (different medium than air) around you.

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    3. Re:I wonder how... by maxfresh · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I agree that a webcam would do a far better job than speakers and mic, but they couldn't use body heat to do it.

      Although a ccd or cmos sensor in a webcam, or most any other digicam, is sensitive to IR as you mention, it is not sensitive to the thermal IR of body heat. Most digital cams are capable of IR sensitivity out to about 1um, if you remove their IR-cut filter. The human body with a skin surface temp of about 305 Kelvin emits most of its IR energy at a wavelength about 10x longer than this, or 9.5um.

    4. Re:I wonder how... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Click the link http://stevetarzia.com/sonar
      It just detects a really noisy amplitude. It takes the average of that and when it falls below half of normal, turns off the monitor.

      A webcam with facial recognition would be better at what you are describing. You would need two cameras to get topography and be sure someone isn't holding up a photo.

      Then if you're hacked people can wait until you leave and have a handy photo to go with their fake IDs with your name. ;)

    5. Re:I wonder how... by Z34107 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Asus ships the software you're describing with laptops they sell; it came on mine. It takes a bunch of snapshots of your face through the webcam (you're supposed to rotate your head) and then if it sees your face at the login screen, it logs you in.

      They call it "SmartLogon."

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    6. Re:I wonder how... by flibbajobber · · Score: 1

      It could do a reasonable scan across the plane in which the speakers are located. A properly-phased stereo signal played across the two speakers would effectively 'scan' horizontally, behaving as a basic phased array. Some proper deconvolution and you could probably get x-resolution to within a few wavelengths - perhaps an inch or so with ultrasonic frequencies.

      That's probably sufficient to combine with the webcam to do 'proper' facial recognition, while using the ultrasonic scan to do a quick check on whether it's a flat surface (i.e. photograph) or vaguely head-shaped.

    7. Re:I wonder how... by tkw954 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Asus ships the software you're describing with laptops they sell; it came on mine. It takes a bunch of snapshots of your face through the webcam (you're supposed to rotate your head) and then if it sees your face at the login screen, it logs you in.

      So all I need to log on to your computer is a lifesize photo of you, or alternately, your severed head?

    8. Re:I wonder how... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even a bust of your face wouldn't work the same unless it accurately simulated your bone structure and flesh.

      Yeah, that's the problem with the artistically-inclined intruders these days, they care enough to carry a bust to the target site but are just too damn lazy to get the right level of detail on the cheekbones for proper authentication.

      Well, at least they can use it for a smash 'n grab.

    9. Re:I wonder how... by Z34107 · · Score: 1

      Potentially! You also need to be in the same room, facing the same wall, so something silly like a different background doesn't prevent you from logging in.

      After formatting the laptop, I did not reinstall that software.

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    10. Re:I wonder how... by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      I don't think the 'generic' functionality of the speakers or microphone would make much difference. They are all of at least acceptable quality these days, even on laptops (albeit, usually very small).

      I'd think this technology would be quite limited in a desktop, actually - unless the speakers and microphone are built into the LCD, at least. There'd be a great deal of sensitivity to ambient noise, machine noise, and the positioning of the speakers/microphone to each other; if they're not able to effectively -reflect- back to each other, you might have some problems.

      I'd imagine that the technology uses triangulation more so than sonar, which is why I make this guess.

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    11. Re:I wonder how... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, because it usually doesn't even recognize when you're alive...

    12. Re:I wonder how... by jlmale0 · · Score: 1

      This is a concern? Copies of my severed head are in short supply. Hell, I don't even have one!

    13. Re:I wonder how... by karnal · · Score: 1

      Well, if someone else gets one, you won't be worrying about anything anymore.

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  8. Headphones by quantumphaze · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This wouldn't work with headphones plugged into the computer unless you can get the laptop's built in speakers working independantly (it can do it, old Ubuntu 7.10 had them on separate mixer controls on my laptop). But desktop users usually have their powered speakers off when using headphones.

    Does anyone have an idea on how to solve that? You could put out ultrasonic sound through the headphones that get blocked when used, but it could damage your hearing depending on how loud it needs to be to get picked up by the microphone.

    1. Re:Headphones by sakdoctor · · Score: 5, Funny

      The solution to this, and ALL life's problems is to uninstall pulse audio.

    2. Re:Headphones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      try putting down your headphones next to your mic when you leave the computer seemed to work for me;)

    3. Re:Headphones by d4nowar · · Score: 1

      Have the headphones detect if they are on someone's head using the same sonar technique. If not, sleep.

      Bad if you have headphones plugged in but don't use them. But how cool would it be to turn on a computer by putting on the headphones?

    4. Re:Headphones by gehrehmee · · Score: 1

      Not at all. Pulseaudio would actually make it much easier to select a second, cheap usb microphone/speaker set while your normal audio happens on your good speakers/headphone/mic.

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    5. Re:Headphones by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      How exactly are the headphones going to use sonar? Where is the microphone to receive the sonar pings?

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    6. Re:Headphones by Miner+Willy · · Score: 1

      ...how cool would it be to turn on a computer by putting on the headphones?

      Meh.

    7. Re:Headphones by TrekkieGod · · Score: 1

      The solution to this, and ALL life's problems is to uninstall pulse audio.

      I keep hearing that. Am I the only person who had consistent problems with sound in linux which all went away the very moment ubuntu adopted pulse audio, when suddenly everything just worked perfectly?

      I mean, it's not that I don't believe you guys, but based on my experience, fixing the pulseaudio bugs that are currently giving you guys problems is probably a better option for distros than dropping pulseaudio.

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    8. Re:Headphones by kyle5t · · Score: 1

      No, you're not the only one. I think the PA support is particularly good in Karmic. I upgraded recently and it fixed the last remaining issue I was having. And as a longtime SPDIF user I love the hardware profiles that let me easily select digital vs analog inputs and outputs.

    9. Re:Headphones by ksheff · · Score: 1

      Why do most of the linux distros install pulse audio if most of the users hate it? I haven't had a problem with linux sound from before the RH6.x days until I installed a version of Fedora with pulse audio. After tweaking the parameters so it doesn't freeze up or skip, now the audio is a slightly higher pitch (not quite as bad as an "Alvin and the Chipmunks" recording, but noticeable). There has got to be a redeeming feature to it, but I'll be damned if I know what it is.

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    10. Re:Headphones by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 1

      an explanation of the "need" for pulseaduio
      *complex mixing code shouldn't go in the kernel
      *"glitch-free audio" (yeah, i agree, whoever named it that should be shot) should save power
      *per-app software mixing
      *change the mixing/effects on hardware events
      *position dependent sound (IMO if an app wants that they should code it/use a lib themselves)
      As you can see I'm not a real fan but apparently that is why it's needed.

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    11. Re:Headphones by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That.

      Personally, I went back to just using ALSA + internal alsa mixer. That kinda sucked (couldn't get it to consistently mix, particularly with Flash, and it would frequently result in poor quality crap while doing so), so...

      I went back to what I was doing a decade ago: use ESD (wherever possible). I suppose I could use JACK or something else, but it does a good enough job and I'm not continually irritated with alsa dying outright due to different things vying for -whatever-.

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  9. I'm one of those people that hears CRT Monitors by ArbitraryDescriptor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And dimmer switches, cordless drill battery charges, and even a really annoying slice of whatever frequency god damn bats chatter at. In short, my super power is above average HF hearing. Hooray for me...

    Now, I like this idea, it's neat, I just really hope it operates well over 18khz so my head does not explode all Scanners style when I walk into a room full of laptops.

    1. Re:I'm one of those people that hears CRT Monitors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now, I like this idea, it's neat, I just really hope it operates well over 18khz so my head does not explode all Scanners style when I walk into a room full of laptops.

      OK, of course I hope it doesn't really do that, but *damn* that would be *cool*!

    2. Re:I'm one of those people that hears CRT Monitors by Verdatum · · Score: 1

      Damnit, good point. At my last hearing test, I maxed out the tone generator. It's got me curious enough to try it out to see how irratating the tone is. One could do plenty of fun hacks with this if it actually works as well as one would like.

    3. Re:I'm one of those people that hears CRT Monitors by Jay+L · · Score: 1

      Likewise. I'm 38, and I think my upper limit's dropped to below 17KHz, but still above the CRT flyback frequency (15.6?). Worse.. I seem to recall that exposure to high-frequency noise is what -causes- the loss of high-frequency hearing as we age (the hair cells become brittle and eventually snap, or something like that).

      If I'm right, this "high-frequency" sonar could actually cause hearing problems. Bad. The white paper says they're using 20KHz tones. I wonder if the average laptop speaker/mic/OS can deal with stuff closer to 30-40KHz; that might be safer, even if there's a drop-off.

    4. Re:I'm one of those people that hears CRT Monitors by adolf · · Score: 1

      The speakers and mic will deal with higher frequencies (30-40KHz) just fine, it'll just be attenuated more both going out and coming back in (which can be resolved by just turning things up a bit more, and killing the battery a little quicker).

      A better question is: How will the electronics handle it? Even if the laptop has a codec capable of, say, 96KHz sampling, that doesn't mean that the rest of the audio path (particularly in a laptop) is in any way capable of passing such frequencies. It's very likely, in fact, that the engineer responsible for that part of the machine has intentionally low-pass filtered the analog electronics to only operate within normal hearing range.

    5. Re:I'm one of those people that hears CRT Monitors by marcansoft · · Score: 2, Informative

      Dimmer switches buzz at 50/60Hz (with lots of metallic-sounding harmonics). Everyone hears those. Better designed ones make less noise. Battery chargers and power adapters in general (of any kind) either buzz at 50/60Hz (transformer based) or at a higher frequency (switching type). Poorly designed switching converters might operate in the audible range - I have a few that can definitely be heard. Most good ones are well above 20Khz. CRT TVs operate at ~15Khz; I hear those too. CRT monitors operate well above 20Khz; ~30Khz for 640x480 VGA (horizontal frequency). I doubt you can hear those. Maybe some specific monitor that produces noise at a division of the frequency?

      I tried this on my laptop and I couldn't hear anything (other than some clicks when it is enabled/disabled, due to poor switching). The debug log says it's generating 22Khz pulses. It didn't work too well on my machine though.

    6. Re:I'm one of those people that hears CRT Monitors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      add motion detectors, really old TV remotes, neon signs, flourescent ballasts, so on. Please no!

    7. Re:I'm one of those people that hears CRT Monitors by Khith · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I can hear at least up to 20kHz (as high as my speakers' frequency response goes, so I can't test any higher) and it really IS a pain sometimes. The most useful thing I've been able to do is remind them that they left the TV on in the other room. "But I turned off the power and the screen is black.." No, you turned off the power to the cable box which cut out the image and sound on the TV, but I can still hear the flyback transformer. Of course this doesn't work on LCD TVs, though they sometimes just hum or buzz quietly anyway.

      I'm 31 years old. I thought that people around my age weren't supposed to hear such things? Is it all related to one's environment? I don't listen to loud music, avoid loud places, etc, but I still thought that hearing was supposed to diminish.

    8. Re:I'm one of those people that hears CRT Monitors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So can I. I can also hear transformers, fluorescent lights, and my Nintendo 64. I'm not sure if I would want this on my laptop if it plays this frequency constantly.

    9. Re:I'm one of those people that hears CRT Monitors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, and a lot of people, can hear at 22KHz. Believe me, I wish I couldn't.

    10. Re:I'm one of those people that hears CRT Monitors by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      Huh. You mean that isn't normal? I can hear all of those things, and I've always been highly agitated by high-pitched sounds as well. The bats drive me crazy during summer nights, and I've been tickled pink since LCDs have replaced CRTs wholesale. The one that irritates me the most, though, are power supplies on brown power, or just poor quality power supplies, and anything that's performing PWM with a high wattage. I HATE cooking on an electric stove and using the microwave.

      I haven't had my hearing tested since probably early grade school, but I don't recall anything special. But it'd be interesting if I could, indeed, hear a much higher frequency than most people. (Interestingly, my wife can't hear a lot of the things that irritate me which I can't identify - "Hey, you hear that? Help me find it!" -> "I can't hear anything!"

      Damn high pitch sounds. While they might be good for echolocation, they are absolutely impossible to track down at times.

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    11. Re:I'm one of those people that hears CRT Monitors by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      Likewise. I'm 38, and I think my upper limit's dropped to below 17KHz, but still above the CRT flyback frequency (15.6?). Worse.. I seem to recall that exposure to high-frequency noise is what -causes- the loss of high-frequency hearing as we age (the hair cells become brittle and eventually snap, or something like that).

      Here you go then, the problem elegantly solves itself.

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    12. Re:I'm one of those people that hears CRT Monitors by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Kid, 31 is pretty damned young. Most people start losing their hearing later, and it's the result of noisy environments -- working in a factory, construction, etc. If you're an office drone your hearing is going to last a whole lot longer, unless you're a hunter (guns are LOUD) or play in a rock band or something.

    13. Re:I'm one of those people that hears CRT Monitors by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1


      Now, I like this idea, it's neat, I just really hope it operates well over 18khz so my head does not explode all Scanners style when I walk into a room full of laptops.

      Yeah, me too. For us and anybody who ones a dog:

        yum install blueproximity

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  10. We are entering a whole new world of ultrasonic... by stillpixel · · Score: 0

    pranks that we can play on those nearby once this becomes active. Randomly shutting off peoples screens.. waking them randomly without even being near them. : )

  11. How will this? by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

    How will this benefit the general user though? There are many times that I get up but still want my laptop to be running for example, I can leave a music player on, hook up my laptop to a projector to play a movie, or a load of other things that this would prevent from happening.

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    1. Re:How will this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ......... TURN OFF THE POWER MANAGEMENT FOR THOSE THINGS!

      I mean really, you can get on the internet, but you can't think enough to figure out this is for power savings on a laptop. If you are playing movies on a projector, I assume that you are probably plugged in.

  12. Easy solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or just us a key combination (like in windows) to lock the system (and start the power saving).

  13. How about a license ; how about saying Linux(tm) by rtfa-troll · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It would be nice if they would make the software license clear. Even if just to say that "this is government sponsored and so available for copying with no restrictions". Also at the bottom of the page they say '"Windows" is a registered trademark of the Microsoft Corporation.' but forget to mention that Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds.

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  14. A better solution might be to... by dave562 · · Score: 1

    ...tie power savings to the manual screen lock feature. In Windows, the WindowsKey+L locks the workstation. It would be great if a second or two after the workstation is locked, the monitor turns off and the drives spin down. That would provide good power savings and avoid the problem of having to determine whether or not the user really wants their workstation to conserve energy.

  15. Bat Country? by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

    "We can't use that laptop here, this is bat country!"

    Riddle me this... What's the right laptop for bat country?

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    1. Re:Bat Country? by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      Riddle me this... What's the right laptop for bat country?

      OLPB ?

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    2. Re:Bat Country? by maxume · · Score: 1

      A stripper.

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    3. Re:Bat Country? by Bat+Country · · Score: 3, Funny

      I use an HP Pavillion dv6, but I'd prefer something with a touchscreen.

      Thanks for asking!

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    4. Re:Bat Country? by physburn · · Score: 1

      and she doesn't have to be pretty in bat country. Just How hot is a stripper in a very dark place.

  16. Why ? by smoker2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What's wrong with a keyboard shortcut key or assigning a function key ? It's a laptop, you probably don't just walk away frequently and leave it unattended. Not anywhere I know anyway.

    1. Re:Why ? by jlmale0 · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing you're a student, using your laptop at a coffee house, bookstore, or library.

      At my place of work, everyone has a laptop on their desk (with docking station and extra monitor). For myself, I take my laptop somewhere twice a month; for the rest of the time, it's effectively a desktop.

      Stepping back into my college days, I still think this kind of app is useful. What about stepping away from a study group to take a call? How about preventing your pr0n-loving roommate using your laptop to visit his sites and getting your PC infected with malware?

  17. I'm just a slave to the machine... by Kazoo+the+Clown · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just tell me where I put the postit note or soda bottle to fake it out so it thinks I'm there all the time...

  18. Re:How about a license ; how about saying Linux(tm by olau · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You got that backwards. What they should do is deleting the remark about Windows. Anyone succumbing to the (tm) crap should have their head examined. Every time somebody writes "registered trademark", god kills a kitten. It's true. Between us, we just killed two. No, I'm not going to write it again.

    Now someone is going to say legal blahblah necessary blahblah. But there is something wrong if fear of a big corporation is making you write that kind of kitten-lethal nonsense every time you mention a product made by that corporation.

  19. Could be Costly... by jamesivie · · Score: 1

    Ultrasonic...sounds like a good way to have your dog pee all over your laptop. No thanks!

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  21. So the device in Dark Knight by geekoid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Could be built. Interesting.

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  22. Re:How about a license ; how about saying Linux(tm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're right. Not including a license text was an oversight. The source code is made available without any restriction. I updated the download page now says this.
    -Steve

  23. Alarm clock by Verdatum · · Score: 1

    If the mechanism could be tweaked properly such that it can hear the difference between soft breathing and fan harmonics, this would be a great module for an alarm clock. It wouldn't bother sounding off when you're out of town, and it would automatically turn back on if you were there originally but haven't left for work yet. (too lazy to find the link to the guy who did the same general thing, instead by detecting his body weight added to the bed.)

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  25. Re:Dog ears by herojig · · Score: 1

    What's driving my dog crazy, Krypto, is me NOT having a feature that shuts down the computer when I have sat behind the screen so long that his bladder is about to burst and he needs to go out for a walk - bad. When that proximity detector is available, let us know.

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  26. Defeats the purpose by cadeon · · Score: 1

    The idea behind turning off a monitor is to save power- but constantly polling an environment with active sonar uses power.

    Polling is bad. Events are good. I say leave it like it is.

    1. Re:Defeats the purpose by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Firing off a ping from a little speaker every couple of seconds isn't going to use very much power. Notice that your optical mouse is continually polling the environment too, in the form of the light from it's LED.

      It will require that your computer not go to sleep, but you could easily have it set up (as almost all machines are) to use two stages - ultrasonic until there's been no activity for X minutes, then off to dreamland, to be awoken only with keyboard or mouse input.

  27. Re:How about a license ; how about saying Linux(tm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like they addressed those concerns; see the "Source code README addendum (10/15/09)" at the bottom of the download page.

  28. will it work underwater? by FragHARD · · Score: 1

    Does anyone think this will work underwater, if I am to put the laptop in ziplock bag for undersea research?

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    1. Re:will it work underwater? by cheros · · Score: 1

      No. "Blub" doesn't work as a ping signal :-)

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    2. Re:will it work underwater? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      No. The air/plastic/water interface will just reflect almost all of the sound. You'd need an underwater transducer specifically designed to couple well with water. You also won't be making pictures of your wife/daughter/sister/friend's unborn baby.

  29. simple solution! by garyebickford · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have a simple solution to that problem. I used to have similar problems (though not as bad) - the 15KHz whistle of the old color TVs used to bug me. But during my misspent youth I spent several years listening to lots of loud music - 10 feet from the speakers at rock concerts, etc. Now, other than a constant ringing in my ears, I'm fine! And I no longer hear HF audio, so no more annoying whistles for me :D Try it, soon you'll be as deaf as Pete Townsend!

    (FYI, the last band I was in used in-ear monitors - Story about deaf musicians and using in-ear monitors. It wasn't even a loud band, but it was nice being able to mix our own levels without worrying about the house levels.

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  30. wow... no soviet russia references.... by mark-t · · Score: 1

    I thought for sure I'd have seen a remark by now that said something to the effect of computer pings YOU!

  31. Re:How about a license ; how about saying Linux(tm by rtfa-troll · · Score: 1

    someone is going to say legal blahblah necessary blahblah.

    No; I'm going to say that some / most trademarks are useful (like Linux(R)). If the Linux(R) trademark gets diluted and became a common term for operating system that would make me sad (on the other hand I don't see that Windows has the right to exist - it's pretty clear they only escaped from the Lindows case by paying their way out). In the case of Linux(R) I don't see that it causes any problems to anyone. IF, by reminding people that Linux(R) is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds God kills a kitten then He is entirely responsible for His own actions. (Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds - other terms used in this posting may or may not be trademarks of their respective owners or not. Killing kittens is BAD(TM).)

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  32. Perfect Targeted Bomb Trigger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's Saves Power!

    It's Cool Tech!

    It's a Perfect Targeted Bomb Trigger.

    Even with multiple users, it would be easy to "target" a certain person when at the computer.

    Think of the possibilities.

  33. Reverse that by skastrik · · Score: 1
    Before leaving the computer I just press WinKey+L.

    Now, having to log in -again- when I return is slow and error-prone, especially while sipping coffee. The solution is obviously to use the same software to auto-login a soon as it detects the presence of a user.

    1. Re:Reverse that by skastrik · · Score: 1

      Before leaving the computer I just press WinKey+L.

      Now, having to log in -again- when I return is slow and error-prone, especially while sipping coffee. The solution is obviously to use the same software to auto-login a soon as it detects the presence of a user.

      Seems I misunderstood the purpose of the software, it's just a boring screen-turner-offer. Should not slashdot when tired.

  34. What's surprising about it? by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

    Surprisingly, the mic and speakers of many laptop computers are sensitive to ultrasonic frequencies.

    For anyone who actually knows about how microphones and speakers work, it's not particularly surprising at all. Timothy needs to go to school, and learn a little bit of physics.

  35. My Dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So that's why my dog keeps barking / biting my laptop!

  36. Save megatonnes of CO2 with this - & more! by a-zA-Z0-9$_.+!*'(),x · · Score: 1

    Cool idea! You could save megatonnes of CO2 with this.

    Suggestions:
    1. Allow configuration of "absent time" before darkening screen
    2. Provide link to OS Power settings
    3. Allow configuring (auto/manual) of Hz of sound, from 16khz to system max
    - to avoid any interference from other noise sources
    - for kid/pet preference (BTW, my dog didn't notice - standard poodle)
    4. Provide totals by day/week/... of different activity states.
    5. Show timeline along display box
    5. Allow stretching of display box and scaling of time line

    Ideasfor further investigation:
    a. use stereo speakers to determine how centred the echos are. Consider "absent from
            computer" (vs absent from room) if not both centred and close. You could allow a
            configuration setting for this too - "how centred / how close", e.g., a slider on the
            display screen, to compare with the graphs.
    b. Use different frequencies within speaker/microphone ranges to "fingerprint"a room
    c. Use "fingerprinting" to come to conclusions about what kind of room, e.g., bath stall,
            outdoors, small, large, busy, empty, dimensions- what can you discover
    d. Use 2-speaker sonar to create a crude touch screen. (No 3d mouse since you need a
            plane to localise a point in 3D with only 2 speakers.) Could calibrate like on an old
            palm - push here, showing a X in various places.

    You must have hit the beta-tester jackpot with a Slashdot reference!

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  37. Poor dogs by imgod2u · · Score: 1

    I can see so many of them freaking out cause of this.

  38. What about pets? by justthinkit · · Score: 1

    This was my first thought -- would all that high frequency sound annoy pets?

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  39. Re:How about a license ; how about saying Linux(tm by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

    "so available for copying with no restrictions". Why does everything need a license? If that's all they say then there is no license. It's public domain. Do what you want.

    Licenses exist for one reason only - to restrict what you can do with something. If there is no license, you can do whatever you want.

  40. Re:How about a license ; how about saying Linux(tm by petermgreen · · Score: 1

    The way copyright works nowadays is that works are automatically copyrighted as soon as they are created.

    So if you want to do anything with a work beyond what your countries fair use/fair dealing/etc rules allow then you need explicit permission to do so from the copyright holder.

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  41. Re:How about a license ; how about saying Linux(tm by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

    How much more explicit do you need than "available for copying with no restrictions?"

    Do you want some legalese? Some small print?

  42. Re:How about a license ; how about saying Linux(tm by rtfa-troll · · Score: 1

    Note that they seem to have added this information (addendum 10/16/09) after my comment; before there was nothing saying that it was "available for copying with no restrictions". All I can say is thanks. That was nice.

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  43. Auto flushing toilets by Leebert · · Score: 1

    Maybe they could use this technology on auto flushing toilets so that they don't flush suddenly without warning when I'm sitting on it but happen to lean forward. That's such an incredibly nasty occurrence... ugh.