Court Orders the Pirate Bay To Delete Torrents
lbalbalba writes "A Dutch court ruled today that The Pirate Bay has to remove a list of torrents linking to copyrighted works. The list is to be provided by BREIN (similair to the RIAA, in Holland), and is similar to the earlier ruling against Mininova. The defendants are given three months to comply, if not, they will face penalties of 5,000 euros ($7,500) per person, per day."
If you read the article, it means they have to block them too, and also block all dutch users from accessing *all* copyrighted torrents.
Other interesting parts from the article:
The defense had argued that not Fredrik, Gottfrid and Peter were not the owners of the site, but a Seychelles based company named Reservella. The Court rejected this defense as the defendants could not name the current owners or provide any documents proving that the site was sold. It concluded that the three defendants are responsible for the site.
This doesn't really sound like a surprise. They're still actively working on the site too.
Ernst-Jan Louwers, the lawyer for the three Pirate Bay defendants told TorrentFreak that his clients are currently considering whether or not to appeal this judgment.
Sounds like they're actually starting to giving up. All the recent news and problems probably have softened them up.
You better stay off from other countries too that have extradition treaty with France.
Or in this case with Netherlands.
Is it a good or bad thing then? You could be extradited to some african country which has laws that in your home country would be just laughable.
the Netherlands as well
Well, this guy was extradited from Australia to USA for copyright infringement
Australian pirate to be extradited to the United States
A ground-breaking ruling against an Australian man accused of pirating software, games and music worth over $50 million should have all pirates in the world scared. Hew Raymond Griffiths who went by the online name BanDiDo, has never been to the United States but will be tried in a U.S. court after the U.S. won the battle to extradite him.
It's not just the name. The judge looked specifically at how TPB site is organized and works.
This includes endorsements and in fact calls for further torrent uploads, suggesting that people start up more -such- torrent sites, accepting torrent file uploads, indexing them, making them available for search, potentially filtering them (see an earlier comment re: empty files, viruses and child pornography), and so on.
In fact, the ruling ( http://zoeken.rechtspraak.nl/resultpage.aspx?snelzoeken=true&searchtype=ljn&ljn=BK1067&u_ljn=BK1067 - Dutch, sorry ) specifically states (emphasis mine):
In other words.. if you had a torrent search site that merely accepted uploads, indexed them, and offered them for download - at least in NL - you wouldn't be violating copyright law yourself in any way.
Whether it would protect you from the whole 'Aiding Copyright Infringement' debacle is another matter; I suspect if you didn't filter and the like, you might just be fine. You would also find your site to be immensely impopular by the masses (nothing would be easy to find), and popular with the ne'er-do-goods (seeing as you don't remove crap), including pedophiles.. which would likely land your site on a whole 'nother list altogether.
Nope, the translation is correct, the dutch article says "auteursrechtelijk beschermde werken" which literally means "copyrighted work"
> The EU is more then just the economic union it was meant to be.
It never was meant to be just an economic union, the economic union was just a mean to an end. Just read the Schuman Declaration.
The economic union was a mean to an end: To craft a political union, which would render war in Europe impossible.
> Berlesconi was not chastised for his many crimes.
Berlusconi is subject to Italian law. Should he not prosecuted, it would hardly an argument against the overreaching powers of the European Union.
Besides, his immunity has been overturned
"Between strong and weak, between rich and poor [...], it is freedom which oppresses and the law which sets free"
On the occasions when I need to find something via BitTorrent that I'm not certain I can find anywhere else, I will check this bookmark:
http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/peersharing/f/torrentsearch.htm
I can't keep up with which torrent sites are up, down, removed or what. This page usually gives me a fighting chance of finding a functional torrent-related site with the *cough* information I need.
I only post comments when someone on the internet is wrong.
From the verdict ( http://zoeken.rechtspraak.nl/resultpage.aspx?snelzoeken=true&searchtype=ljn&ljn=BK1067&u_ljn=BK1067 - Dutch ), emphasis mine...
So, no, this isn't about ALL torrent files. Your Linux Distros and such are safe.
Holland : The Netherlands => California : The USA
Privacy is terrorism.
I couldn't resist, this one is too easy...
George Romero's 1968 classic "Night of the Living Dead" is in the public domain. This is mentioned in the pirate bay description. Here is a more detailed explanation from wikipedia.
-Mysteryvortex
I don't know, but if all countries are signatories to the Berne Convention, maybe that's why?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_convention