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Nigerian "Scam Police" Shut Down 800 Web Sites

Sooner Boomer writes "Nigerian police, in what is named Operation 'Eagle Claw,' have shut down 800 scam web sites and arrested members of 18 syndicates behind the fraudulent scam sites. Reports on Breitbart.com and Pointblank give details on the busts. The investigation was done in cooperation with Microsoft to help develop smart technology software capable of detecting fraudulent emails. From Breitbart: 'When operating at full capacity, within the next six months, the scheme, dubbed "Eagle Claw," should be able to forewarn around a quarter of million potential victims.'"

200 comments

  1. I'm a nigerian prince by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Would you like to help me transfer millions of nira to me? You will be well paid!

    1. Re:I'm a nigerian prince by davester666 · · Score: 1

      I presume you are giving a significant portion of any money you 'earn' to the Nigerian police, in exchange for being left out of Operation "Eagle Claw"...right?

      I just want to make sure my money will be with somebody who will be there six months from now, sending me more promises of "yup, the money is just about to go through, any day now".

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    2. Re:I'm a nigerian prince by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please send me plenty of spam, especially ones of nude women. Ive never seen a naked woman before so it would be nice

      Kind Regards,
      Jack Thompson
      amendmantone@comcast.net

    3. Re:I'm a nigerian prince by Venik · · Score: 1
      Please send me plenty of spam, especially ones of nude women. Ive never seen a naked woman before so it would be nice

      At first I thought you made a joke. But this is Slashdot, so, who knows, you may be telling the truth...

    4. Re:I'm a nigerian prince by Cassius+Corodes · · Score: 1

      Look at the name eagle-eye :D

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    5. Re:I'm a nigerian prince by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      I already have one hundred trillions. But thank you. Here's your tip.

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      Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
    6. Re:I'm a nigerian prince by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All male /.ers have at least seen their sister/cousin/mom/gran naked.

    7. Re:I'm a nigerian prince by runyonave · · Score: 0

      All does not mean you.

    8. Re:I'm a nigerian prince by paragon1 · · Score: 1

      Ive never seen a naked woman before

      None of us have. This is /., after all.

    9. Re:I'm a nigerian prince by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm a Nigerian policeman. We caught a bunch of spammers and think you may have fallen victim to one of them. Can you provide your banking details so we can verify you are not affected? Thanks!$$

    10. Re:I'm a nigerian prince by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF are you talking about, I've seen hundreds! More than one on a single night! And you can too, let me tell you how...

      ....oh wait, you mean like, IRL....uh, never mind...

  2. In other news... by russlar · · Score: 1

    In other news, Americans now falling victim to fraudulent spam emails from individuals claiming to be members of the Royal Family of the Ivory Coast.

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    Anybody want my mod points?
    1. Re:In other news... by Gerzel · · Score: 5, Funny

      What? You mean that some of those scammers were ACTUALLY Nigerian? I had always assumed even that was fake...

    2. Re:In other news... by BKX · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, they even have a strange rap subculture over there, kind of like gangsta rappers in the US. Here's a youtube music video of one of the more popular songs. The name of the song, yahoozee, is the name the Nigerians give to rich scammers. Oddly, the yahoozee seem to buy only American after they steal American money (hell, the entire song is in (very bad) English; they even stole our language.).

    3. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Bloody hell, It's not your language, it is called ENGLISH for a very good reason. One that obviously escapes you, undoubtedly due to a lack of IQ points! Some halfwit moderator even gave you INSIGHTFUL, possibly out of pity, but probably because his IQ is similar to yours!

    4. Re:In other news... by daveime · · Score: 0, Troll

      Yup, well no one is better at speaking (very bad) English than the Americans. The Nigerians are welcome to it, no one else wants it.

    5. Re:In other news... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Oh boy are you in for a surprise: It's Nigeria's third most profitable industry!!

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      Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
    6. Re:In other news... by jonadab · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > (hell, the entire song is in (very bad) English; they even stole our language.)

      They didn't steal the language from us. They got it from the bloody limeys.

      Incidentally, so did we.

      > Oddly, the yahoozee seem to buy only American after they steal American money

      American goods are uber-cool throughout pretty much the entire third world. Buying American stuff is a form of conspicuous consumption, a banner that says, in effect, "I can afford all this, look at me, I'm wealthier than all y'all, ha ha ha."

      One notable exception is automobiles. The US makes a lot of cars, but the most popular conspicuously-expensive cars are of European manufacture (Rolls Royce, BMW, Mercedes Benz, etc). Oh, and cigars, of course, come from Cuba.

      So if these "yahoozee" are buying American cigars and American luxury cars (e.g., Cadillac) then they might be making a statement about America. Otherwise, they're just making a statement about their own level of affluence.

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    7. Re:In other news... by paragon1 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      American English is our language, British English is yours.

      The difference is you fellas spell everything funny, and talk like you're holding your noses. Cheers.

    8. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Stole our language"? American English is the RESULT of lingual theft. And more 'Americans' steal "American money" (as you put it) than any other nationality.

      Just look at Wall Street.

      Idiot.

  3. smart technology software... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    using the same smart technology software they used to track the rewards for all those Microsoft Giveways email forwards...
    http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/nothing/microsoft-aol.asp

  4. But but but! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I didn't get my money from the Prince yet!

  5. Finally! It's about time! by ad454 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Finally! It's about time that international police and anti-crime resources put the same effort in stopping online cross border crime that they do for offline!

    Kudos to Microsoft for helping. Heck, I would accept help from Satan himself, if it reduce the spam and online crime.

  6. This isn't going to help by JoshuaZ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Unfortunately, humans are quite stupid. Even smart people are often stupid outside their area of expertise. I know someone professor at a major university who almost fell for one of these scams. It is hard to draw the line between ignorance and stupidity but as long as ignorant or stupid people exist unethical will try to take advantage of them. And they'll just find new ways of doing it. More education is probably the key. But even then, they'll just modify the scams accordingly.

    1. Re:This isn't going to help by mc+moss · · Score: 5, Funny

      Was it this professor at Harvard who sent 600k to nigerian scammers?

      http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/03/31/harvard_prof_scams/

    2. Re:This isn't going to help by Artraze · · Score: 2, Informative

      Of course scams won't go away. But even if we accept that, should we just allow scams to continue unchecked? At least arresting scammers helps raise the "price" of the operation...

      Also, for what it's worth, being scammed isn't about stupidity. The (Ponzi) scams that have been in the news tricked people whose sole area of expertise was investing, and they did it quite well (they had the millions to put in to these after all). Granted, dumb/ignorant people are easier targets, but they also don't generally yield as much per person (see pervious).

    3. Re:This isn't going to help by interkin3tic · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Unfortunately, humans are quite stupid.

      Compared to? Cats? An alien race you know of but the rest of us don't? A cherrypicked group of humans?

    4. Re:This isn't going to help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Ponzi scams that tricked those investors was still through stupidity. The investors did not do due diligence for there investments, the evidence that these were scams was around for a long time and included multiple economists and researchers reporting them to the SEC, the numbers never added up, but peoples greed to believe that the profits were real overroad the evidence before them.

    5. Re:This isn't going to help by countertrolling · · Score: 1

      You seem to forget the role greed plays here. It, like ideology, usually trumps intellect and facts.

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      For justice, we must go to Don Corleone
    6. Re:This isn't going to help by causality · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Even smart people are often stupid outside their area of expertise.

      That's the difference between knowledge and wisdom.

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      It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Einstein
    7. Re:This isn't going to help by joocemann · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Unfortunately, humans are quite stupid. Even smart people are often stupid outside their area of expertise. I know someone professor at a major university who almost fell for one of these scams. It is hard to draw the line between ignorance and stupidity but as long as ignorant or stupid people exist unethical will try to take advantage of them. And they'll just find new ways of doing it. More education is probably the key. But even then, they'll just modify the scams accordingly.

      As long as our cultures pit our people against each other in competition for money, people will be 'unethical' and exploit each other.

      I suggest we look to the roots and foundations of 'evil' and how we can circumvent its expressions in life; most cases indicate that 'money' should be destroyed and new cultures and ways of existence need arise.

      You know it is your culture that taught you to be jealous of polygamy. It is your culture that taught you to put common man at opposition. It is your culture that prioritizes the individual over community. Very little in what is wrong with humans can be attributed to nature: nurture is where we go wrong.

    8. Re:This isn't going to help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's been said already but it's not just stupidity but greed combined with stupidity. I think both deserve a little punishment now and again. I feel worse for the people who get scammed 40 bucks for rogue antivirus, they just lack computer-savvy, as opposed to being part of a pretend bankrobbing.

    9. Re:This isn't going to help by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      It doesn't even take greed. One US vendor got an order for $10,000 of equipment, accepted the $20,000 check that was "erroneously" sent and agreed to refund the difference. By the time the $20,000 check bounced, the scammer was already long gone, the equipment was gone off the loading dock and the check for the difference was long cashed.

    10. Re:This isn't going to help by phantomcircuit · · Score: 2, Funny

      A cherrypicked group of humans?

      Yeah it turns out that some people are much smarter than the average person. Shocker.

    11. Re:This isn't going to help by MrMista_B · · Score: 1

      So you value community over the individual?

      That way lies tyranny, slavery, and genocide.

    12. Re:This isn't going to help by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Scams have always been around, and they have nothing to do with 'stupidity'. This is a conceit of our modern age, where we are desperately anxious to call other people stupid so as to relieve our anxiety that we might not be smart by comparison. Rather, it has to do with scammers who have made a study of human nature (the profession is ancient and goes back to the dawn of time). Calling people who fall for scams 'stupid' is not correct, calling them 'greedy and trying to screw the conman' is much more correct. Consider how many people in the current 'intelligent' audience would fall for the following:

      You take an ordinary pack of 52 playing cards, spread them face up on the table, and offer to bet your victim that you can beat him at a game of draw poker, nothing wild, in which you both draw your cards from a face-up deck, taking any cards you wish. The game will be played according to standard rules except that you and he can help yourselves to any cards in the face-up deck both in putting together your initial hand and on the draw. You claim that your opponent will be unable to beat or even tie you even though each of you sees what the other man holds and even though you will allow him to go last.

      The procedure, you explain, will be as follows: You will draw five cards from the face-up deck for your hand. Your opponent will then draw any five cards he wishes from the remainder of the deck to form his hand. You will then discard any cards you wish and draw cards from the remainder of the deck to complete your hand. Your opponent may then discard nay or all of his cards. He may take any cards remaining in the face-up deck to fill his hand. If he beats you, he wins the bet. Even if he only succeeds in tying your hand, he still wins. In order for you to win the bet, you must end up with a better hand than his.

      Since your opponent gets to go last both on the deal and the draw, it would seem a sure thing for him to at least tie. After all, the best you can end up with is a royal flush, and he can tie that by taking another royal flush in a different suit. (Remember suits have no rank in poker.)

      Actually, you have a mortal lock on this one if you employ the following strategy: In selecting your initial hand, take the four tens plus any other card. Your opponent will either give himself a higher four of a kind jacks, queens, kings, or aces or he will take a straight flush. (Note that the highest straight flush he can make is a five through nine of one suit. Your four tens preclude his building a royal flush or a straight flush higher than a nine.) Either way, he has you beat for the moment.

      You now discard three of the tens and your odd card. Use that one ten to build the highest straight flush you can. For example, if he holds four aces, you give yourself a king-high straight flush. If your opponent holds a straight flush, you build a royal flush around the ten you hold. Now its his turn to draw, but there is no way he can make a straight flush as high as yours because you have killed the other three tens among the discards. Of course, your strategy will work just as well if, for some unaccountable reason, your opponent initially draws some other hand than the ones suggested above.

      Letting your opponent go last, which seems to guarantee a tie for him, actually robs him of any chance of winning the bet. Take out a deck of cards and experiment for a couple of minutes and youll see that all your adversary can do is come in second best.

      In my younger, more adventurous days, I often used this scam on a mark I had badly beaten at poker, if he still had any money left. As soon as he started bemoaning his bad luck, I would say, What do you mean luck? Youre the worst poker player Ive ever seen in my life. Its a wonder your mother lets you out of the house without a note pinned to your chest. You couldnt beat me at poker if I let you run through the deck and pick out your own hand. I would then pause as if suddenly getting an inspiration, and say, As a matter of fact, I bet you reall

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      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    13. Re:This isn't going to help by supernova_hq · · Score: 1

      Dirt

    14. Re:This isn't going to help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I know some people here don't like xkcd, but this felt relevant

    15. Re:This isn't going to help by e9th · · Score: 1

      Maybe it was this law school professor, who "holds three doctorates."

    16. Re:This isn't going to help by LifesABeach · · Score: 1, Insightful

      What do you say to the company that makes the software, that drives the worlds bad guys, that make careers spamming, scamming, and cracking? Thank you?

    17. Re:This isn't going to help by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I suggest we look to the roots and foundations of 'evil' and how we can circumvent its expressions in life; most cases indicate that 'money' should be destroyed and new cultures and ways of existence need arise.

      Ok, so how are we supposed to do that? In 2009 we still have finite supplies of everything, if I want a ham sandwich I can't magically produce ham by speaking "create ham", it isn't even digital where if you have one piece of ham you can make almost infinite copies without damaging the original ham or using any other parts.

      You know it is your culture that taught you to be jealous of polygamy.

      Um, I don't see how I'm "jealous" of polygamy, its hard enough work keeping one woman happy, let alone three or four.

      It is your culture that taught you to put common man at opposition.

      What are you on? In case you haven't looked at the natural world (as I'm assuming you are basically saying you think humans are nothing more than evolved animals) every animal wants to dominate all the other animals. We as humans at least can do it civilly without much bloodshed and still maintain a society where just about everyone can live without fear of hunger or their safety. Sure, we can't all afford 50 inch plasmas, a Ferrari and 5 Core i7 boxes, but in general most everyone in at least a semi-free society will know they are going to be able to eat tomorrow.

      It is your culture that prioritizes the individual over community.

      Yeah, and look at how well the cultures that prioritized the community over the individual. You know governments such as fascism like Nazi Germany where they felt they needed to kill a few "individual" Jews for the sake of the "community" and don't even try bringing in "modern science" because that is what they manipulated to get the German public to at least tolerate it. Other governments such as communism that end up being corrupt to the core, breed dictators like Joesph Stalin, people who don't care if their people starve like Kim Jung-Il, Which country would you rather live in? North Korea where the "community" comes first, or in the US which is "individualistic" where I can be pretty sure I'll have food to eat tomorrow, the day after that and the day after that and I can be confident I can have medical treatment whenever I need it (even if I might have to pay for it later), and I can at least have a few freedoms (though they are being taken away day after day by the government).

      Very little in what is wrong with humans can be attributed to nature: nurture is where we go wrong.

      Are you just a troll or have you not seen nature? In nature life is brutal, short and in general not much fun. While we have leisure time to think, to ponder and to have fun, in nature you always have to be perpetually looking out against predators, gathering food, and making sure that the members of your own species don't decide to kill you. If you have a sickness no one cares, you just die in pain. You mean to say that the "natural" way of doing things is "better" because we don't have this "evil"? I'd prefer to be sent these spam e-mails than to spend every day fighting to survive.

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    18. Re:This isn't going to help by ammorais · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, humans are quite stupid.

      Compared to? Cats? An alien race you know of but the rest of us don't? A cherrypicked group of humans?

      I bet he's talking about cats.
      My cat will never fall for Nigerian scams.

    19. Re:This isn't going to help by Joren · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Unfortunately, humans are quite stupid.

      Compared to? Cats? An alien race you know of but the rest of us don't? A cherrypicked group of humans?

      Just try getting between a cat and a plate of tuna. They are fiendishly inventive... I have a cat that, while not necessarily socially intelligent, was quite clever at solving problems. He might fit in here at Slashdot ;) - One day when I was in my last year of high school, the cat, while wondering why in the world he was not getting petted and catered to, decided it was time to take matters into his own paws. Having carefully observed me using the computer over a long period of time, he figured out how to reset my computer - never mind the fact that the front panel had been completely removed and the reset "switch" consisted of a button deeply recessed into a 7mm opening in the grating, of which there were dozens to choose from. He had to stick his claw in that specific hole, and *bam* - there goes an hour of work. He seemed to think that without that pesky English paper on my screen, I'd have more time to pay attention to him. He got a lot more attention than he bargained for that day...

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      -- Joren
    20. Re:This isn't going to help by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      Good points, Darkness404.

    21. Re:This isn't going to help by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Money is not good, nor evil. Money is just a tool to exchange goods and services. Goods are limited, and so are your services. Money is the only tool we have to express value in something. If everything has the same value, then it is worthless.

      The only time people are exploited in cases like this, is when GREED overcomes LOGIC and REASON, i.e. MONEY FOR NOTHING (and chicks for free).

      People who are scammed like this deserve it. It is a cost of stupidity. Stupid should hurt.

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    22. Re:This isn't going to help by timmarhy · · Score: 1

      omg it's not a silver bullet, so let's just throw our hands in the air and do nothing! i hope your not in charge of anything more important then washing jock straps.

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    23. Re:This isn't going to help by mqduck · · Score: 1

      Is it? Even wise people are ignorant out of their area of expertise.

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    24. Re:This isn't going to help by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      My cat tried to achieve the same results by installing Vista.

    25. Re:This isn't going to help by abarrieris5eV · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ok, so how are we supposed to do that? In 2009 we still have finite supplies of everything, if I want a ham sandwich I can't magically produce ham by speaking "create ham", it isn't even digital where if you have one piece of ham you can make almost infinite copies without damaging the original ham or using any other parts.

      Did you try "sudo create ham"?

    26. Re:This isn't going to help by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      A fool and his money are soon parted. The question is how they got together.

    27. Re:This isn't going to help by rohan972 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Money is not good, nor evil.

      I disagree. Money is inherently good but like all good things has the capacity to be used for evil. It is an expression of value. As you say, it is a tool to exchange goods and services, service generally also being taken to be a good thing.

    28. Re:This isn't going to help by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      You think that's bad, my cats got an e-mail from a nigerian scammer promising a cheeseburger, they mailed my credit card, social security card, passport, and library card to him.

      (They were hoping the library card would get them pickles.)

    29. Re:This isn't going to help by CodeBuster · · Score: 1

      That's the difference between knowledge and wisdom.

      There's got to be a D&D joke in there somewhere.

    30. Re:This isn't going to help by syousef · · Score: 2, Funny

      Let's just see how stupid you are shall we?

      I have a cat

      That's strike one.

      Having carefully observed me using the computer over a long period of time, he figured out how to reset my computer

      Very doubtful. I think you're anthropomorphising - strike two.

      He had to stick his claw in that specific hole, and *bam* - there goes an hour of work

      Went an hour without saving work. Strike three.....you're outta here!

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    31. Re:This isn't going to help by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      It's not even necessarily outside their expertise, I thought I read somewhere that people in the finance industry fell for the Nigerian scams at a disproportionate level, or at least, a lot more than you'd think.

    32. Re:This isn't going to help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He might fit in here at Slashdot ;)
      Meow

    33. Re:This isn't going to help by rainierburger · · Score: 1

      You make several good points, but the idea that we humans have more leisure time now than we did in our 'natural' state is bunk. Food collection required significantly less time than your average 'civilized' citizen works today. For example, studies of the hunter-gathering !Kung tribe have shown that they have more leisure time than industrialized people. Of course with this extra work we buy a significantly improved quality of life...

    34. Re:This isn't going to help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pshh ... my cats writes my papers for me in exchange for tuna.

    35. Re:This isn't going to help by Xanj · · Score: 1

      not to be a troll or anything but dont you mean thats the difference between knowledge and intelligence, wisdom and knowledge are the same thing they are using the facts to solve the problem where intelligence is solving the problem without knowing the facts therefor discovering the facts

    36. Re:This isn't going to help by causality · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is it? Even wise people are ignorant out of their area of expertise.

      You have entirely missed my point. Wisdom is not about categories of factual knowledge. It's about knowing and understanding yourself. Our society so thoroughly fails to appreciate wisdom and so greatly overvalues cleverness and so few people are independent learners that I am actually having to explain this.

      It's a mundane, lower-level interpretation of what I said, and it fails to capture the full essence of it, but it could be rephrased this way: wise people know when they are not informed enough to make a good decision. So if it isn't their "area of expertise" (even if they DO subscribe to such a self-imposed limitation) then they know they are ignorant and they know that they need to correct their ignorance before making a decision. That's because wise people know themselves and appreciate both their strengths and their weaknesses, both their capabilities and their limitations.

      Fools, by contrast, assume that they know more than they actually do. This is usually because of what you might call arrogance but also happens because of plain old poor judgment (which is itself a weakness that can be remedied). Because they recklessly and haphazardly overestimate their understanding, they get screwed by such scams.

      Note that fools can otherwise be very clever, in that "high IQ" sense. They can accumulate vast amounts of memorized factual and procedural knowledge. They can even be the foremost experts in a specialized field. This alone does not cause them to make good decisions. To see the surprise that people show when smart people do stupid things, you'd think that this were some big mystery rather than the simple and self-evident observation that it actually is. Unfortunately, this is another thing that I would not have to explain if the difference between wisdom and cleverness were more widely appreciated in our society. The result is that we as a people are very good at complicating simple matters.

      So before responding, the wise might research that person e-mailing them and take steps to find out whether he is in fact the Nigerian prince that he claims to be. They might do a Google search and see if other people have also received similar unsolicited e-mails, which would quickly inform them about the nature of the scam. What they would not do is respond from a position of ignorance to an unknown third party about a financial matter without first performing some due diligence. Furthermore, the truly wise are honest people and for that reason, they do not expect to earn vast amounts of money for little or no work on their part and are rightfully suspicious of such offers instead of titillated by them.

      Now I know that's a rather dry response, but the beautiful simplicity (by comparison) of my original statement gets lost in even the best of explanations.

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    37. Re:This isn't going to help by Hurricane78 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      With "professors" in the US honestly supporting teaching bible stories in biology, I don't think that means very much anymore... Titles are just titles. You can still be a total retard.

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      Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
    38. Re:This isn't going to help by selven · · Score: 1

      Wait, so making a useful tool is bad because criminals also benefit from it?

    39. Re:This isn't going to help by imakemusic · · Score: 1

      Lets just see how much of an arse you are.

      *points at post*

      Yeah, you're an arse.

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    40. Re:This isn't going to help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reason these scams, and any scams for that matter, work is that you can convince people of anything if they *want to believe*.

      All of us are probably guilty at one time or another of thinking the unreasonable might have a chance....

    41. Re:This isn't going to help by Joren · · Score: 1

      Meow.

      Great... turn my back on that crazy cat for just a minute and he's already posting AC on Slashdot. Next thing we know it'll be first meows and Soviet Veterinarian jokes.

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      -- Joren
    42. Re:This isn't going to help by smoker2 · · Score: 1

      He who knows not; and knows not that he knows not
      is a fool, shun him.
      He who knows not; and knows that he knows not
      is a child, teach him.
      He who knows; and knows not that he knows
      is asleep, wake him.
      He who knows; and know that he knows
      is wise, follow him.
      - Persian proverb

    43. Re:This isn't going to help by metrix007 · · Score: 1

      Or.....

      It was a coincidence.

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    44. Re:This isn't going to help by daybot · · Score: 1

      service generally also being taken to be a good thing.

      Clearly you don't own a BMW, where service is generally considered an assault (on your wallet).

    45. Re:This isn't going to help by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > Even smart people are often stupid outside their area of expertise.

      It is my considered opinion that people who only have one area of expertise aren't very smart, no matter how detailed their knowledge may be in that one area.

      Granted, everybody has weak subjects here and there. But smart people *know* what their weak subjects are and don't risk much on being right about anything in those subjects. I would never put any money into sports, for instance, because I just plain don't know that much about sports. I wouldn't try to own or manage a sports team, or a stadium, or anything sports related. I wouldn't bet money on the outcome of a sporting event. I wouldn't invest money in sports-related merchandise (even *famous* sports-related merchandise like a Honus Wagner card, because how would I know if it even *resembles* the real thing, much less evaluate its actual authenticity?). And I certainly wouldn't enter into a sports-related business transaction with someone I've never met who contacts me out of the blue.

      It takes an incredibly foolish man to reason from "I'm an expert on the appreciation of Serif fonts in Saxon table doilies in the year 1058" through "so obviously I'm smart" and arrive at "so even though I don't know anything about African royalty or high finance or business, I can trust my judgment about these people who have contacted me, whom I've never met, and go ahead and start a financial business relationship with them, without seeking any advice from an expert on the subject."

      A smart person wouldn't reason like that. A smart person knows his own limitations and compensates for them when necessary. A smart person would say to himself, "You know, I don't know anything about African royalty, so I should do some checking and inform myself before I deal with these people. There might be some important piece of basic information I should have." A smart person would say, "I don't know that much about business, so I should at least get my colleague from the business department to look over this proposal before I do anything." A smart person would say, "I don't know that much about high finance and transferring millions of dollars overseas, so I should seek advice from someone who does, a banker maybe, before getting involved in such a venture."

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    46. Re:This isn't going to help by paragon1 · · Score: 1

      That's easy. Copyright law.

    47. Re:This isn't going to help by paragon1 · · Score: 1

      He seemed to think that without that pesky English paper on my screen, I'd have more time to pay attention to him. He got a lot more attention than he bargained for that day...

      Did you happen to name the cat Schrödinger?

    48. Re:This isn't going to help by oldspewey · · Score: 1

      Roll for save vs. 419?

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    49. Re:This isn't going to help by oldspewey · · Score: 1

      Intelligence is possessing the tools and insight necessary to solve problems in the outside world.

      Wisdom is possessing the tools and insight necessary to solve problems in your inner world.

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    50. Re:This isn't going to help by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1
      A friend of mine had a cat (Billy) who became incontinent due to its age.

      He would still feel the urge, but if too far away from the litter box, he wouldn't quite make it in time...

      So, once he was upstairs near my friend's bedroom/home office, the litter box was downstairs, and then came that sudden urge. Billy knew full well that there'd be no way that he'd make it downstairs in time. So, quick thinking as he was, he picked the next best spot: a Micro$oft Word manual, carelessly lying on the floor...

      Smart cat!

    51. Re:This isn't going to help by oldspewey · · Score: 1

      I am fascinated by this theory. Please fill in the blanks so I can better understand.

      - Value for community
      - ???
      - ???
      - ???
      - Tyranny, slavery, and genocide

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      If libertarians are so opposed to effective government, why don't they all move to Somalia?
    52. Re:This isn't going to help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "and *bam* - there goes an hour of work."

      From the sound of that, it doesn't seem hard to impress you at all. Do you happen to watch the washing machine while it works? /me nods. Yes yes... tell me more.

    53. Re:This isn't going to help by oldspewey · · Score: 1

      ... for some definitions of "improved quality of life"

      I've had the good fortune to be able to travel to some rather far-flung corners of the globe, and I honestly think some of the happiest people I met were some of the most "deprived" in the material sense of the western world. They had less stuff in their houses, but they also had less ridiculous bullshit rattling around inside their heads.

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      If libertarians are so opposed to effective government, why don't they all move to Somalia?
    54. Re:This isn't going to help by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > As long as our cultures pit our people against each other in
      > competition for money, people will be 'unethical' and exploit each other.

      "Lie to a liar, for lies are his trade. Steal from a thief, for that is easy. Beware an honest man." -- Mat Kerbouchard in _The Walking Drum_

      It's hard to scam an honest man out of his money, because the usual hooks (personality traits that a scammer uses to manipulate people) are missing. (Exception: a senile person can be scammed out of money even if he's honest, by exploiting his senility. What, you don't remember the deal we made to fix your roof? You owe me sixteen thousand dollars, you old coot, cough it up. But that's a different kind of scam.)

      You send a 419 pitch to an honest man, for instance, and all kinds of ethical alarm bells go off. Is this legal? Why is this man so eager to transfer money out of his country secretly? Is he a criminal? If it's stolen money, it would be wrong for me to help him. Should I even talk to him? Maybe I should check with the police and see what they say. If he's stolen that much money, I should definitely talk to the police. On the other hand, if he's for real, wouldn't it be unethical for me to exploit his desperation for personal gain? Even if I help him, I shouldn't accept any money for it or, at least, not more than is warranted for the actual assistance I provide.

      Worse (for the scammer), honest people don't feel any need to keep things secret. If I'm not looking to get rich, the motivation to act alone and be the only one in on the deal is gone, or more likely never existed in the first place. Thus, I can freely talk to my friends about it, and the police, and maybe I should even get the local newspaper and radio station involved: if this man's terrible plight is real, people should hear about it... and if he's a criminal, the police in his country need to know what he's doing.

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    55. Re:This isn't going to help by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      For example, Company A makes a chain saw. This chain saw will cut anything. Bad guy for years has made a device that causes the chain saw to injure the user. Company A does nothing about this bad guy's "talents"; instead goes on to make bigger chain saws. Conclusion? I'm glad m$ does not make chain saws, and I will NOT buy a Ford.

    56. Re:This isn't going to help by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 1

      Apparently he dropped a couple.

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    57. Re:This isn't going to help by kalirion · · Score: 1

      He had to stick his claw in that specific hole, and *bam* - there goes an hour of work.

      You mean some people still haven't figured out that it's a good idea to save their work every 5 minutes?

    58. Re:This isn't going to help by kalirion · · Score: 1

      The only time people are exploited in cases like this, is when GREED overcomes LOGIC and REASON

      Why couldn't a GREEDY individual use LOGIC and REASON to get what he or she wants? Or are you saying that all greedy people are raving lunatics?

    59. Re:This isn't going to help by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      Of course they are going to be happy simply to have food to eat because they don't know of any luxuries. We've all seen people driving expensive cars, seen the benchmarks on expensive CPUs, read the motherboard documentation to see how much RAM you can stuff in there, seen and probably ate a five course meal. Most of those people have to struggle to gain food every single day, their lives are brutal and short. While most of us /.ers can probably bet on living to at least 60 or 70 unless you develop some condition, even the most healthy kid can only aspire to living to 40 at the longest in many societies like that because of either war, famine, sickness or other preventable ways. So how can you complain about not driving a fancy car when you don't know about any cars other than the humanitarian aid jeeps?

      If you think because people in third world countries are happy because they don't have a lot, might I suggest trading places with someone in a third world country? I'm sure they would be happier in the US or Europe and you would be more miserable wherever they were.

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    60. Re:This isn't going to help by joocemann · · Score: 1

      Wow, you're not even trying to think outside of the box that was built around you.

      Species of apes not very genetically distant from us exist in much more communal and peaceful ways. Fathers raise all of their clan's children as their own, aunts raise all of their sister's children as their own. Your assumptions about nature are limited and exclusive of reality.

      By jealousy, I mean the cultural phenomenon wherein your girlfriend wants more guys than just you, not the example your ego dug up as a convenient counterargument.

      If you don't know how to get a ham without money, your mind is closed and your character is poisoned with a specific direction of self worth and ability. Nevertheless, you should know that more is possible.

      Your response serves as a great example as to how difficult the issue of undoing cultural influence can be; thank you for your demonstration of this fact. There is an old term called 'think outside the box', though I doubt you've got the vision to truly do so in this case. I'm sorry.

    61. Re:This isn't going to help by acohen1 · · Score: 1

      There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. These are things we do not know we don't know. -Donald Rumsfeld

    62. Re:This isn't going to help by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, humans are quite stupid.

      Compared to? Cats? An alien race you know of but the rest of us don't? A cherrypicked group of humans?

      Well, will a dog or cat bring you its food in order that it might get a larger quantity of food? After getting no return at all, time and time again?

      In terms of "doing needlessly stupid things", my untrained eye tells me that humans take the cake. Other species are concerned with survival, and tend to behave accordingly. They might make a stupid mistake - and if they live through it, they'll almost assuredly not repeat it. p. This is the down-side of having advanced cognitive skills -- we can think our way into trouble as well as out of it.

    63. Re:This isn't going to help by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I actually drove a Focus with this system as a rental car, I was amazed at how good the system was. When hooked up to my phone through bluetooth for the speakerphone, it automatically picked up the phone book and would show who was calling. I also hooked my ipod up to it, and it was able to play music directly from the ipod. So not a bad system in all. You should try it before you slam it, Microsoft does make some great products along with the stuff that is complained about most here. Just look at their hardware division.

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    64. Re:This isn't going to help by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      sudo ./materialize /etc/materials/ham.conf > /dev/replicator

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    65. Re:This isn't going to help by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      You need to read what I said closer. The only time people are EXPLOITED (taken advantage of) is when GREED (desire for wealth) overcomes LOGIC and REASON.

      It is not saying that greed requires logic, reason or stupidity, because it doesn't. Greed is the desire for wealth, and is neither good nor bad, in and of itself.

      Again, if people think that giving someone they don't know, full access to their bank account, on a vague promise of making lots of money, with little or no effort, they deserve what they get.

      But hey, they might actually get the $2,204,458 fee. You never know!

      --
      Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
    66. Re:This isn't going to help by psithurism · · Score: 1

      Many of the scams we see do rely on greed, but also consider there are a large number of scams out there relying on philanthropy. I have had friends (not close ones mind you) who solicited for fake or semi functional charities. Similarly are the scams that involve posing as authority figures, etc.

      I've known many old people especially, who write large and frequent checks they can barely afford to people who need the money to cure cancer (or SARS). You can't blame greed all the time.

    67. Re:This isn't going to help by joocemann · · Score: 1

      He should have tried "sudo effort +imagination +education"

      It isn't hard to truly imagine what potentials and possibilities we can achieve. But you have to make an effort instead of doing what he did by using selective reasoning to come up with excuses that are obviously not fact or absolute in any way.

    68. Re:This isn't going to help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Did you try "sudo create ham"?

      I don't have God's password :-(

    69. Re:This isn't going to help by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      I thought about it. I have a '92 300ZX, and a $450 new radio I placed in it handles, DVD/CD, Blue Tooth, Siris, and a workable GPS, with voice; its cool. Next summer I will have to buy 3 new cars, so I am looking. BSOD at 55mph is a chilling concept; m$, IMHO has worked hard to earn this critique. I was going to Saturn, but a letter from the local Saturn Dealership said they're imploding; Because of the Recession, technology, and $5.00 a gallon on the horizon, these will be most likely the last gasoline powered cars I buy. It will take 5 to 10 years for America to build robotic factories that will compete toe to toe with the BRIC countries. But next summer is a hard dead line. Amusingly, I find myself looking to the 'C' of BRIC. All electric is a short term answer to the Fuel Cell that is the result. I wonder if China sells e-cars that are California-ized?

    70. Re:This isn't going to help by lennier · · Score: 1

      "Money is the only tool we have to express value in something. "

      And that in itself might be a problem if money does not in fact accurately reflect the actual value of things.

      "If everything has the same value, then it is worthless."

      Not necessarily. It might just be not able to be valued. Subtle distinction until you lose, say, drinkable water from the biosphere and realise that it was actually worth a very large sum of money, just that it happened to not be accounted for in any transactions.

      Some things, money is not a good measure of. The evil comes in when we start aggressively optimising our lifestyle to increase an inaccurate measure of worth.

      tl;dr: Money's fine as long as you realise it's as useful an indicator of true worth as high school popularity.

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    71. Re:This isn't going to help by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      and many rely on a combination of factors. The claim of many scams can be summarised as

      I have access to $(largeammount) of money from $(source) and need to get it out of $(country) before it is taken by $(people who want to use it for something else, often something evil). If you help me I will let you keep $(notquitesolarge) ammount of the proceeeds.

      This preys on both the greedy and on those who beleive that the money will be diverted from evil and/or used for philanthropy if they help get it out of the senders country.

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  7. What are the odds? by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

    So what are the odds the "smart technology software capable of detecting fraudulent emails" is just spamassassin ?

    1. Re:What are the odds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      about zero or perhaps a little less. Spam assassin does nothing to differentiate scams from normal spam.

    2. Re:What are the odds? by icebike · · Score: 1

      Well, not exactly true, since SA support all sorts of plug-ins that can catch this type o spam, as well as generic spam, such as Cloudmark plugins and various blackhole lists.

      The test list http://spamassassin.apache.org/tests_3_2_x.html shows many that might be useful for this.

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    3. Re:What are the odds? by supernova_hq · · Score: 1

      grep -R "$100000" *

    4. Re:What are the odds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That'll give you a few false positives, unless you'd previously set $100000 to be a pattern that matches scam emails...

  8. Love those letters by EdIII · · Score: 5, Funny

    I rather enjoy getting those letters. The last one I replied that I was extremely interested but that I had recently had a dispute with my Internet Service Provider and my access to email would be shut down soon. I would be more than willing to help them if they could send $98.43 to Time Warner Cable referencing account number ################.

    There are other variations. Such as I can help them get the money out of the country but I need more money to pay my lawyer to settle some estate disputes. Buy me a ticket to Nigeria and I will come there personally. My rich family members think this is a joke and I have been cut off from the family money but I can show them if I can just get to Nigeria and show them that this is real.

    My record so far is stringing these guys along for 2 weeks. They finally give up frustrated. I actually had one of them write me back asking to be left alone and stop sending him emails.

    1. Re:Love those letters by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      A wonderful story, but please don't stop there and put those emails themselves up on the Net!

    2. Re:Love those letters by p3n1x420 · · Score: 1

      Hello Dear I can see you that you are joker please i not here to joke please for God sake don't email me again Bye den dawg wrote: But dont you see the windfall sum we will both make? as a gesture of your good faith take out a loan and advance at the least 2.5% to me on good faith. with the sum we both make on this, you can buy the BANK you got the loan from! that sounds enticing! this is of most urgent priority. Truly Dennis --- Thompson Doudou wrote: > From Thompson Doudou > Avenue 5 Lot 172 Sogefia Cocody Quarters > Abidjan Cote d' Ivoire West Africa > Tel+22508445366 > > Hello Dennis > Greeting to you Dennis,and how are you today, i > hope all is well with you together with all the > member's of your family. > Well i can say thank you once again for kind > respond to my mail the content is well > understood.why are you keep on asking for 3%? while > i have made you a promise i have told you that this > money is suspence account i don't have right to take > a cent out of it onless it transferd into a foreign > account,please i will like you to through the > deposit bond the agreement the bank and my late > father has made the time he made this deposit so > that you will unerstand me well.if i may ask have > you contacted the bank? as i told if you have done > that what is your discussion with the bank director. > My dear Dennis i wan't you to get this in mind i > can not promise you and go back on it for God sake > this money will be transfer to your account why so > worry about 3% just keep your fingers cross and help > me to transfer this money to your account i believe > every thing will ok. > Thank you and God bless more over send my regards > to your family. > Still your best regars > Thompson Doudou >

    3. Re:Love those letters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      So in other words, they now have your name, the name of your ISP, and your account number with that ISP. A little social engineering (and these guys have had the practice at that), and I wonder what other details about you they could glean...

    4. Re:Love those letters by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      Classic, just classic. I got one those emails a week ago, and immediately junked it, (I think I'll go fishing in the Junk folder). I think I'm going to enjoy having Nigerian Princes paying my utilities, and bank loans.

    5. Re:Love those letters by Nyder · · Score: 1

      I rather enjoy getting those letters. The last one I replied that I was extremely interested but that I had recently had a dispute with my Internet Service Provider and my access to email would be shut down soon. I would be more than willing to help them if they could send $98.43 to Time Warner Cable referencing account number ################.

      There are other variations. Such as I can help them get the money out of the country but I need more money to pay my lawyer to settle some estate disputes. Buy me a ticket to Nigeria and I will come there personally. My rich family members think this is a joke and I have been cut off from the family money but I can show them if I can just get to Nigeria and show them that this is real.

      My record so far is stringing these guys along for 2 weeks. They finally give up frustrated. I actually had one of them write me back asking to be left alone and stop sending him emails.

      screenshots or it didn't happen.

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    6. Re:Love those letters by rolfwind · · Score: 1

      screenshots or it didn't happen.

      Yes, because screenshots can't be faked, ever.

    7. Re:Love those letters by EdIII · · Score: 1

      So in other words, they now have your name, the name of your ISP, and your account number with that ISP. A little social engineering (and these guys have had the practice at that), and I wonder what other details about you they could glean...

      Wow. You thought I would actually give my real name, my real ISP, and a real account number? LOL. If that's true, I have bridge to sell you.

    8. Re:Love those letters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed, these would be fun to read.

    9. Re:Love those letters by Samah · · Score: 1

      Amusing email, but learn to format.

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    10. Re:Love those letters by Hurricane78 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think you would fit in well with this group: http://www.419eater.com/ ^^

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      Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
    11. Re:Love those letters by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      A wonderful story, but please don't stop there and put those emails themselves up on the Net!

      \Sure thing

      I was doing this for a while myself, but... it got to the point where it was like, "why bother?" My time is worth more than it takes to make some jerk ...well, look like a jerk. Come to think of it... it's kind of how I felt when I gave up on Gentoo as taking up entirely too much time and yielding entirely too little return...

    12. Re:Love those letters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yeah, those guys have ENTIRELY too much time on their hands.

      I love the one where they got some scammer to pay for the shipment of a toilet and a stove to Nigeria, when they thought they were getting "Anus Laptops".

  9. Noooo.... by u4ya · · Score: 5, Funny

    Some king just died and his cousin needed my help and promised to repay me half a million dollars for my bank account information, which I sent of course, because I'm not an idiot. But just how the hell am I supposed to contact him now?

  10. In other words.... by Rod+Beauvex · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In an effort to make their products look good, Microsoft paid off a bunch of Nigerian police who have known about these people for years and didn't really care.

    1. Re:In other words.... by palegray.net · · Score: 1

      You've got it all wrong. The Nigerian police have always cared; the actions they take are linked to the amount they're being paid.

      Microsoft simply paid them more.

    2. Re:In other words.... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      In fact they did care. As this is/was the third largest industry. And so is/was likely, to feed him and his children too.

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  11. Somebody mod me up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.

    Did I do it right? Will I get more mod points if it's in bold?

  12. Ok.... by Darkness404 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Technology cannot eliminate human stupidity. What person doesn't know not to go double clicking on random EXEs, install random Active X controls, etc. yet the number of virus infested Windows boxes shows that most people don't follow that advice. Seriously, how many people think they can make millions by following the directions in these e-mails?

    The success of these e-mails is a testament to human stupidity in and of itself.

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    1. Re:Ok.... by T+Murphy · · Score: 1

      In that case /. should run a 401 scam email drive to soak up any stupidity money before it goes to waste to real crooks. There shouldn't be a problem- we'll be doing them a service by putting their money to good use stimulating the economy where otherwise it would go down the drain.

    2. Re:Ok.... by Suicyco · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They aren't stupid, they simply don't know any better. Most people barely understand the concept of things like "executable file" and "activex control" if at all. They just click away, because thats always worked for them in the past. Its not the user that is at fault for everything that happens, even they are the cause. You can't expect everybody to understand what a trojan is just because you do. Some of the malware is very clever, I recently cleaned a slew of corporate computers infected with tons of crap from some users clicking on what appeared to be legitimate security warnings from windows. These popups can easily fool most people. I took care of it by installing good antivirus and antimalware but a lot of small businesses simply have no clue. They buy a computer, it comes with norton for 60 days, they plug away and don't think twice. Two years later they are infected to all hell and have no idea why. I don't fault them, what about Dell and the likes putting trialware of CRITICAL components onto these new systems? They should have bullet proof antivirus on the system for like, as part of the purchase price. The entire PC market is messed up in that regard. In the long run, it helps sales, because people will buy new computers once their old one becomes slow and worn out, like they are tires or something.

      People aren't "stupid" just because they don't have your level of computer expertise.

    3. Re:Ok.... by buchner.johannes · · Score: 1

      Being blue-eyed -- not being cautious towards scams -- has nothing to do with the technical details of malware.

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    4. Re:Ok.... by Suicyco · · Score: 1

      I didn't mention scams, I was specifically talking about malware. My reply was in response to people being stupid for clicking on exe's and installing activex controls, not falling for email scams.

  13. Dammit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How am I supposed to get my share of the money now that they have arrested the Nigerian prince who was going to transfer millions of dollars using my bank account?

  14. Obligatory Fallout 3 by Aerinoch · · Score: 1

    "Funny business? Why, Miss Chase, you hurt my feelings. I mean, there ain't nothin' funny about...the EAGLE CLAW!"
    - Argyle, "stalwart Ghoul manservant" of adventurer Herbert "Daring" Dashwood.

  15. Microsoft's scam detection strategy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Step 1: Was the email sent via "Genuine Microsoft Outlook 2009"?

    Step 2: If not, it's clearly a scam. You know how those "free software" people are.

    1. Re:Microsoft's scam detection strategy by supernova_hq · · Score: 2, Funny

      Explains hotmail...

    2. Re:Microsoft's scam detection strategy by buchner.johannes · · Score: 1

      Step 1: Was the email sent via "Genuine Microsoft Outlook 2009"?

      Step 2: If not, it's clearly a scam. You know how those "viral license" people are.

      Fixed.

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      NB: The message above might reflect my opinion right now, but not necessarily tomorrow or next year.
  16. Supply and Demand by ub3r+n3u7r4l1st · · Score: 1

    Once my supervisor told me, there is no need for doctors if there is no disease. If everybody is smart as you said, keeping their computer free of viruses, all IT people will be out of the street, waiting for people to throw pennies to the cup, hope to able to buy something to eat at the end of the day.

    1. Re:Supply and Demand by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      Not all IT people are "geek squad" types. Most of us who aren't in high school work on functional machines and functional networks. Hardware needs to be replaced and upgraded, new machines are added to the network, the need to keep up-to-date with the latest software, testing the latest software, eliminating security vulnerabilities, even if all the computer users in the world had a virus-free PC very few real IT workers would be out of a job.

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    2. Re:Supply and Demand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I replace you with a small shell script that does everything you doing and you will lose your job. Humans are not necessary, scripts can do anything these days.
      And besides, if all users in the world got viruses-free PCs what would be of our geek lives as to clean some viruses that won't go away is the only opportunity that most of us have to get very close and INTO THE BEDROOM of a hot, blond, curvaceous and young chick.

    3. Re:Supply and Demand by supernova_hq · · Score: 1

      By your logic *nix sysadmins would never get employed.

    4. Re:Supply and Demand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I replace you with a small shell script that does everything you doing and you will lose your job. Humans are not necessary, scripts can do anything these days.
      And besides, if all users in the world got viruses-free PCs what would be of our geek lives as to clean some viruses that won't go away is the only opportunity that most of us have to get very close and INTO THE BEDROOM of a hot, blond, curvaceous and young chick.

      And then you can easily replace the malware with your own trojan, with webcam support.

    5. Re:Supply and Demand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    6. Re:Supply and Demand by sorak · · Score: 1

      Once my supervisor told me, there is no need for doctors if there is no disease. If everybody is smart as you said, keeping their computer free of viruses, all IT people will be out of the street, waiting for people to throw pennies to the cup, hope to able to buy something to eat at the end of the day.

      And the problem is? So, a cure for all diseases means unemployed doctors. They'll learn a new trade and we'll all be better off. I work in application development, which means that I do not face this risk, but if I did, then I would rather be forced to learn a new skill and move on to a new job, than to subject the world to Viruses, Malware, and other technical issues, just so I can keep getting a paycheck.

      Maybe that's the difference between me and the people who write the malware.

  17. forewarn them? by ILuvRamen · · Score: 1

    I hope the message they send out is "you're an idiot if you believe the crap they're sending you." That's all the warning most people need.

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    Google's Super Secret Search Algorithm: SELECT @search_results FROM internet WHERE @search_results = 'good'
    1. Re:forewarn them? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      I hope the message they send out is "you're an idiot if you believe the crap they're sending you." That's all the warning most people need.

      If that were true, then these would almost never succeed. How often do you hear of these cases where family, friends, etc practically beg the mark to stop throwing good money after bad?

  18. A lot of talk about "stupidity by countertrolling · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The "victims" of these scams aren't as stupid as they are greedy. Combine the two, and you'll understand how Wall Street works.

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    For justice, we must go to Don Corleone
    1. Re:A lot of talk about "stupidity by causality · · Score: 1

      The "victims" of these scams aren't as stupid as they are greedy. Combine the two, and you'll understand how Wall Street works.

      The implication is that if you're greedy to a fault, it's because you're stupid. Otherwise, you'd see that greed as a problem and would work to change it, and in the meantime, would recognize the weakness of it and carefully guard against its exploitation (i.e. by scammers). In other words, "Know Thyself." The failure to do that is the real stupidity.

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      It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Einstein
    2. Re:A lot of talk about "stupidity by countertrolling · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I like what you're saying, but the "smart" ones recognize its strength and work to exploit it (i.e. by scamming) to the max. Greed produces both winners and losers.

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      For justice, we must go to Don Corleone
    3. Re:A lot of talk about "stupidity by causality · · Score: 1

      I like what you're saying, but the "smart" ones recognize its strength and work to exploit it (i.e. by scamming) to the max. Greed produces both winners and losers.

      If the scammers truly knew themselves, they would lose their desire for ill-gotten gain. So yes, it does work both ways.

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      It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Einstein
  19. Watch the Nigerian ecnonmy go bad by ub3r+n3u7r4l1st · · Score: 1

    As the result of this "eagle claw" operation, Nigeria will experience a 25% reduction of their GDP and seeing trade deficit for the first time in their history.

  20. 1/4 million out of how many internet users equals? by schwit1 · · Score: 1
    1,668,870,408

    I'm no rocket surgeon, but that doesn't seem like much of success rate.

  21. Anonymous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just a quick note. Most "smart" people assume giving the person the account information is the scam. When it isn't. They just use that info to make some official looking forged documents.

    They make money by having small charges that they need paid. Transfer fees that if you pay (from a couple hundred bucks upwards of 10 grand) will help make the process go far quicker. Then even more charges show up.

    They don't need to manually drain your account when you'll do it willingly.

    Sooner or later they disappear of course. And you're 30 grand poorer.

  22. Obligatory STFU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just shut the fuck up, you wanna-be karma whore.

    1. Re:Obligatory STFU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just shut the fuck up, you wanna-be karma whore.

      I take that back. I lash out at people because no one accepts me.

  23. Re:Finally! It's about time! by icebike · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Finally! It's about time that international police and anti-crime resources put the same effort in stopping online cross border crime that they do for offline!

    Kudos to Microsoft for helping. Heck, I would accept help from Satan himself, if it reduce the spam and online crime.

    Well, I suspect that even though the tech is not fully deployed yet, these sites were already showing up as scam sites in Firefox and the latest versions if IE.

    I suspect the Nigerian police snarfed up the already useless sites and shut them down in a halfhearted show of being proactive even while on the take. Probably took the opportunity to get rid of a few competitors as well.

    These guys have been operating there for so long that only a corrupt police force could have missed them. There is plenty of evidence these guys are less than squeaky clean: http://hubpages.com/hub/Nigerian-Police--bribe-and-fraud and http://www.irinnews.org/report.aspx?ReportID=76458 etc.

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    Sig Battery depleted. Reverting to safe mode.
  24. Wow! Shut down 800, did ya!? by buss_error · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, there goes about a quarter of the scam email I see on my servers.

    Per HOUR.

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    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
    1. Re:Wow! Shut down 800, did ya!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it's a quarter of your email per hour, it's also* a quarter of your email per second, minute, day, month, year, millennium, D&D session etc. It would also be a quarter of the email you've ever received total.

      *This is all assuming messages are frequent enough and arrive relatively routinely, and the distribution of spam in the total is relatively constant...

    2. Re:Wow! Shut down 800, did ya!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its still a 25% reduction

    3. Re:Wow! Shut down 800, did ya!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Per hour, per day or per week, its still just one quarter.

    4. Re:Wow! Shut down 800, did ya!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Per HOUR.

      I'm pretty sure 1/4 is 1/4, no matter what amount of time you're talking about...

  25. The new messages by HangingChad · · Score: 1

    Greetings, I was referring to you by my dearest friend, my name Bendo Haoraabn and I am writing you in great confidence from Nigerian prison...

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    That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
  26. DEAR ESTEEMED SIR OR MADAM by adageable · · Score: 4, Funny

    I AM A LOWLY CIVIL SERVENT RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING UP AFTER THE GLORIOUS OPERATION 'EAGLE CLAW' AND HAVE DETERMINED THAT YOU HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY DUPED INTO GIVING $ 77, 056 USD TO NIGERIAN SCAM OFFICER. AS A RESULT OF THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT TIRELESS SEARCH OF TRUTH AND JUSTICE, I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE WILL BE RETURNING ALL OF YOUR MONEY.
    PLEASE FAX US ALL OF YOUR CURRENT BANK ACCOUNT AND IDENTIFICATION DOCUMENTS TO 01-234-419-23222 AND WE WILL IMMEDIATELY BEGIN TO PROCESS YOUR INFORMATION, AS WELL AS ADDING A $5,061 DOLLAR REWARD FEE AS REQUIRED BY THE NIGERIAN FEDERAL COURT. TO FACILITATE THE PROCESSING OF YOUR INFORMATION, PLEASE INCLUDE THE ROUTING NUMBER, ACCOUNT NUMBER, AND SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR PRIMARY BANKING ACCOUNT (FAILING TO INCLUDE THIS NUMBER WILL DISQUALIFY YOU FROM CONSIDERATION FOR THE $5,061 REWARD).

    YOUR FAITHFUL CIVIL SERVANT,
    MOGWAH MUBUGASHS

    1. Re:DEAR ESTEEMED SIR OR MADAM by Interoperable · · Score: 1

      Dear Mr Mubugashs,

      I am very eager to work with you in your effort. Thank you for recognizing your error and I gratefully accept your compensation. Please e-mail me further details.

      Sincerely Interoperable,

      Reply to: abuse@127.0.0.1

      Feel free to distribute my e-mail to any of your colleagues that may wish to do business with me in the future.

      --
      So if this is the future...where's my jet pack?
    2. Re:DEAR ESTEEMED SIR OR MADAM by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      How the buggery did you get that past the "Use less caps. It's like shouting" filter?!

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    3. Re:DEAR ESTEEMED SIR OR MADAM by adageable · · Score: 2, Funny

      You know, I have no real idea. Wasn't thinking about it at the time... that's the secret to beating the system ;-)

    4. Re:DEAR ESTEEMED SIR OR MADAM by spyder913 · · Score: 1

      You used lowercase numbers.

  27. Why they really got busted by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

    Given Nigeria's cash-poor economy, they probably forgot to bribe a policeman. Given that they 800 web sites, it was probably only a few servers or desktop machines. We can expect this scam to be in force until their upstream connectivity is willing to do _anything_ about such abuses.

  28. Eagle Claw? EAGLE CLAW? by Shag · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's no eagle claw, it's just the way Wikus's hand grew back, you insensitive MNU clods.

    --
    Village idiot in some extremely smart villages.
  29. Bless you dear. by Speare · · Score: 1

    I know that you will be shocked to have received this notice,but let me explain.I am Mr.Officer MUGABE AKINSO TSUKWAME with the Nigerian National Police Force,Special Internet Fraud Task Force.Following a recent raid on the offices of Mr.OLOSEGUN OBASANJO,President of Nigeria,we have secured illicit funds in the amount of FOURTEEN MILLION (US$4,100,000.00).We are certain these funds are tied to illegal fraudulent activities including electronic mail fraud,fiduciary embezzlement,and blackmail.To ensure that this evidence is kept securely until the trial,due to the risk in the Nigerian Government,we are seeking your assistance in holding these funds in a bank in your country.Please provide the standard necessary information NAME,DOB,NAME OF MOTHER,NEXT OF KIN,BANK ACCT NUMBER,ROUTING NUMBER,PIN,ZIP CODE,FAVORITE COLOR,COLLEGE MASCOT,FINGERPRINT,NATIONAL ID SOCIAL NUMBER,MIDDLE INITIAL.May God shine upon your soul for helping Nigeria rid itself of corruption and fraud.

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  30. That's great news! by djupedal · · Score: 1

    > "Nigerian police in what is named Operation 'Eagle Claw' have shut down 800 scam web sites..."

    That leaves only 9,262,341 to go...

    1. Re:That's great news! by selven · · Score: 1

      [hits refresh on browser]

      ok, back to 9,263,141

  31. I have an important message for those arrested... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ahem...

    BURN!

  32. Re:Finally! It's about time! by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I suspect the Nigerian police snarfed up the already useless sites and shut them down in a halfhearted show of being proactive even while on the take. Probably took the opportunity to get rid of a few competitors as well.

    Never discount the possibility that a different organisation can offer a higher bribe.

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    Do not mock my vision of impractical footwear
  33. Damn, They we're just about to send me a check.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn, They we're just about to send me a check....

  34. Re:1/4 million out of how many internet users equa by bloodhawk · · Score: 1

    I am no rocket scientist either but even I know in real terms that is a MASSIVE success rate, better than most legitimate spam marketting campaigns.

  35. MY DEAR SIR by jrumney · · Score: 1, Redundant

    i represent the late james smith esq of lagos, nigeria. the late mr james left a substantial amount in his will to fund the development of a network of wireless sensors atop lampposts here in lagos, however due to a bug in the software that generates the front page of popular website slashdot.org, the money has mistakenly gone to cambridge, ma instead. i seek your assistance in paying for urgent legal counsel in your great country of america as to transfer the lawyers fees from here would take several months due to the bureaucratic and corrupt nature of our public servants. in return, we will award you 10% of the amount we recover. please send the amount of usd5000 in cash to our lawyers office address at an anonymous dropbox in netherlands.

    YOURS GRATIOUSLY,
    MR GEORGE BURNS III

  36. What?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know why people are complaining. I've made millions helping out these poor people transfer their money! I'm sure you can all pitch in. Nigeria needs all the help it can get. I'm moving to my private island next week. Ta-ta!

  37. The Nigerian letters are a scam???!! by mookiemu · · Score: 2, Funny

    Aw man! That must be why the Honorable Mr. Ngoti Mbutu is not returning my calls. He happened to know my uncle, the esteemed Doctor Alfred Mookiemu, who unbeknownst to me was rich and was sitting on $9,764,546.56, when he was killed in a car crash with his whole family. Fortunately for me Mr. Mbutu was managing his account at the time of his death and found me in the International business archives. He is taking a great risk by contacting me to help me get my uncle's money. All he asked for in return was my bank account numbers, my personal info, and my Social Security number! Sadly, I haven't heard from him since I gave him my info. Gee, I hope the little fella is OK. He seemed like such a nice guy with his endearingly bad grammar and spelling.'

  38. Scamming the Scammer: The P-P-P-Powerbook by HockeyPuck · · Score: 1

    One of my alltime favorites on getting back at the scammer:
    http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/

  39. Can't trust western media by BhaKi · · Score: 1

    I've got a feeling that Nigeria will be the next country to enter the US's list of "evil nations".

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  40. /served by g0sse451 · · Score: 1

    Where can i get my Mugu jollies from now? /served

  41. 800? by Mr+Z · · Score: 1

    Are you sure they closed down 800 sites, and not 419 sites? ;-)

    1. Re:800? by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      closed down 800 sites, and not 419 sites?

      Its called "inflation" in the west. In Nigeria it is called "adding salt and pepper to the story". It is a big problem in third world countries.

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      Sent from my ASR33 using ASCII
  42. Is it just me... by tool462 · · Score: 1

    Or does this part sound suspiciously like the contents of an email scam:

    "The investigation was done in cooperation with Microsoft, to help develop smart technology software capable of detecting fraudulent emails. "

    Sounds like the old BETA Email Tracking Application to me. I wonder if AOL is involved?

  43. 800 Web Sites ? by Zedrick · · Score: 2, Informative

    This doesn't make any sense at all. The second article says it's 800 email addresses, not websites. I doubt the scammers has many websites hosted in Nigeria, if needed they usually set up accounts on European webhotels where neither Nigeria nor the Microsoft Empire has any form of jurisdiction.

    In other words: 800 email addresses somehow shut down. Wow. I bet it will be really hard for new scammers to open new accounts on gmail or yahoo.hk, or set up a new somescammingbank.co.uk at some cheap webhotel using fake names.

    1. Re:800 Web Sites ? by smoker2 · · Score: 1

      If it was done with Microsofts help, they probably shut down the wrong sites anyway. I just tried to update WMP on my laptop, a venerable sony vaio that has a hidden partition with the OS reinstall files on. I have never installed another OS, and only reinstalled from that partition once in 10 years. It is patched up to date and not infected but I can't get WMP11 because it failed Windows Validation. A genuine untampered with install fails windows validation. But sure, they can "detect" illegal activity on so many things.

    2. Re:800 Web Sites ? by oqaqiq · · Score: 1

      You're right. In fact, these scammers use mail to find their victims, and then they proceed by fax. They even ask their victims to buy a fax machine if they don't already have one (this is not a problem, people see it as an investment). So the way the article talks about "800 scam websites" is a clear indication that the journalist/writer of the article is clueless about what he's talking about.

  44. Nigerian Scam Website Accounts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dear Sir: As you may know, we of the Nigerian police force have recently shut down some 800 websites alleged to be operating fraudulently to illegally obtain transfer of funds from rich Americans. In the course of our investigation we discovered 51 bank accounts in different false names, holding a total of $437,509. If our superiors learn of these accounts, they will just take them to share with their corrupt friends, many of whom took bribes to look the other way for so long in the matter of these scams. We would like your assistance in extracting this money to American bank accounts so we can move out of this pit of a country. In return for your consideration, we are willing to split the funds equally with you. Please respond quickly, or we must regretfully offer this opportunity to some other worthy American.

  45. Re:Finally! It's about time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Heck, I would accept help from Satan himself, if it reduce the spam and online crime.

    Allow me to introduce myself, being Dr. Faustus a business associate of Mr. Satan who as you know is an excellent Prince of Darkness and Spam, resident in many parts of Nigeria. I am sure we can come to an amicable arrangement whereby Mr. Satan's spam services are directed to others instead of yourself. Some anticipated administrative expenses needing to be circumvented, please be replying with your credit card and banking details, and numerous photographs of naked women.

  46. Why shut down the third most important industry? by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

    After all, the retards of the world must be good for something. ^^

    Look at it like this: The service that they offered, was natural selection. If you're too dumb to get such a primitive scam, you will have less money. Which is good for the rest of us, who still have their money. Because we will then have an advantage. Something that it all too rare, in this world of anti-selection, where the worst are the most supported.

    I always looked at them doing me a free service. :) If I sell my own products and services to Nigeria, the money gets back here, and no nationwide harm is caused.

    This whole movement of anti-selection is really sad. It's the one thing, prior to wars, criminality, pandemics, meteors falling from the sky, and other global catastrophes, that I think has the biggest chance of destroying all of humanity.

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    Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
  47. Re:Finally! It's about time! by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

    So you actually wished for the retards of the world to have more power? Because that's exactly what they have now. Because they now have more money.
    Wait for them spending it on the things you hate the most. Making TV, politics, and the whole country... just a little bit worse.

    Oh thank you so very much!
    Because I don't have to live in your country. So now I will have an advantage over all of your country. Including you.

    But hmmm... I could do even better... Hey, I have a REALLY nice spam filtering system on my servers. With graylisting, spamasassin, amavis, 3 anti-spam networks, SPF, etc. I offer it at the price of only one soul! How's that? The butt-rapings are only daily! Buy now! :P

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    Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
  48. What? by daem0n1x · · Score: 1

    This means I'm not getting all those millions from Princess Zubikila anymore? Damn police!

  49. Maybe now those pesky Nigerians will finally have to learn how to spell "guarantee" correctly, hehe. Hell, even I could have written the software that figures that one out.

  50. Re:Finally! It's about time! by Gravitron+5000 · · Score: 1

    Kudos to Microsoft for helping. Heck, I would accept help from Satan himself, if it reduce the spam and online crime.

    Dealing with Satan has a rather high cost. Ask Faust all about it.

  51. I am Engineer Smith from the Eagle Claw project .. by mr_death · · Score: 1

    ... and we have shut down several scams. One of the companies we closed owes you money. Please send your name, address, SSN, and banking account information to me.

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    It's Linux, damnit! Pay no attention to renaming attempts by self-aggrandizing blowhards.
  52. Nigerian "Scam Police" by 1s44c · · Score: 1

    I know the Nigerian Scam Police. They keep sending me emails claiming they are the FBI.

  53. Re:Finally! It's about time! by ZorinLynx · · Score: 1

    My guess is that in a very poor country like Nigeria, the authorities might even turn a blind eye to their citizens scamming foreigners, unless pressure is placed on their country by said foreigners.

    Why? These scammers are cheating US citizens out of millions of dollars, which then flow conveniently... into the Nigerian economy.

    More foreign money flowing into your economy means more prosperity for everyone. Not just the scammers, but everyone else because those scammers will spend their ill-gotten money throughout the country.

    So unless pressure is brought upon Nigeria by other countries that Nigerians are scamming, the local authorities are really not going to care all that much, outside maybe a dozen token arrests where they just slap the scammer on the wrist and say "You bad boy, don't do that again!"

    At least that's my theory.

  54. Nigerian "Scam Police" by jacobsm · · Score: 1

    Damm, now I'm never going to get the millions of dollars I've been told to expect any day now.

  55. Now I would know by adeydas · · Score: 1

    Now I will be able to know when I won a real lottery and when I am being scammed!

  56. Are ANY Nigerians in US prisons for fraud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is an international criminal conspiracy that has stolen millions of dollars from citizens of foreign country through fraud, deliberately and repeatedly.
    If the persons responsible are not arrested and prosecuted in their home country by the local authorities, after repeated requests from the victimized country, then an act of war has been committed.
      What we have basically is about 50-100 high-level con artists paying off the local fraud squad to look the other way in a corrupt backward third-world country that has a lot of oil and far far too many people. The Americans should threaten to block financial transfers to the Nigerian 'government' and block internet access (if possible) until all of the stolen money is returned.

  57. Re:Finally! It's about time! by Anomalyst · · Score: 1

    Ask Faust all about it.

    Faust Post!
    /ducks

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    There is no right to feel safe thru security vaudeville at the expense of everyone's freedom, privacy and tax money.
  58. Re:Finally! It's about time! by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    Heck, I would accept help from Satan himself, if it reduce the spam and online crime.

    But would you accept help from Microsoft?

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    "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
  59. Eek! by fugue · · Score: 1

    Further it is projected that advisory mails to be sent to victims and potential victims will be about 230,000 monthly.

    So we're augmenting the flow: now not only will I get "Greetings Dear, I am Ivan Ilych of the First National Bank of Nigeria" but also "Warning from Operation Eagle Claw: You may have been pwn3d!" And no doubt, "Warning from Operation Eagle Claw: You have been pwn3d. Your identity has been stolen by a Nigerian scam syndicate. Please verify your identity by sending us your SSN and we will fix everything."

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    "The biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has taken place."
  60. Michael by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't understand why these SCAM sites stay up so long anyway. Tracing a site is simple, even though a smart individual may be able to hide their tracks. Just turn off the domain the e-mail links to...it is that simple! If the scam site is international and registration authorities there won't play ball, block DNS referrals to that country. They will start playing nice in short order.

    Given that the police seem incapable or unwilling to really go after these people, maybe it is time for the tech community to quit complaining and start doing something.