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Apple Discontinues ZFS Project

Zaurus writes "Apple has replaced its ZFS project page with a notice that 'The ZFS project has been discontinued. The mailing list and repository will also be removed shortly.' Apple originally touted ZFS as a feature that would be available in Snow Leopard Server. A few months before release, all mention of ZFS was removed from the Apple web site and literature, and ZFS was notably absent from Snow Leopard Server at launch. Despite repeated attempts to get clarification about their plans from ZFS, Apple has not made any official statement regarding the matter. A zfs-macos Google group has been set up for members of Apple's zfs-discuss mailing list to migrate to, as many people had started using the unfinished ZFS port already. The call is out for developers who can continue the forked project." Daring Fireball suggests that Apple's decision could have been motivated by NetApp's patent lawsuit over ZFS.

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  1. Great by tjones · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now if you're using zfs on Mac OS, you can't complain if it loses your data. You already knew it was forked.

  2. Re:God forbid... by mister_playboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Please hand in your geek card as you leave.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS

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  3. Re:God forbid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    My sense of entitlement demands that everyone hand everything to me on a silver platter as well! I shouldn't be required to click on a link, much less do a Google search. You and I are in agreement. BTW, you owe me for that.

  4. Re:God forbid... by NoYob · · Score: 5, Funny
    Holy shit!

    All this time, I thought folks were talking about file management with a phony French accent!

    Save zee file to zee FS and you will see that zee bytes go ...

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  5. Please mod this up by causality · · Score: 3, Funny

    THIS is an example of what deserves to get a "+1, Funny" mod, not the ten thousandth retelling of an "in Soviet Russia" joke or some other tired meme.

    Of course, there's also no better way to prove his point than to get offended by it.

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    1. Re:Please mod this up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yeah, well.. in soviet russia the anonymous cowards think you're Funny.

  6. Yeah - so unlike Microsoft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...who don't even *have* a next-generation filesystem project to cancel.

    (see - I can troll, too!)

  7. This is devastating... by mysidia · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hearing that ZFS support was upcoming in Snowleopard is one of the things that encouraged me to switch my desktop from Windows XP to MacOS.

    It is an understatement to say i'm disappointed to see Apple abandoning this.

    Support for ZFS is not just a little feature checkbox, it's a major component of the OS.

    It'd be like if Microsoft dropped/cancelled support for Solitaire from Windows....

    1. Re:This is devastating... by gomek-ramek · · Score: 2, Funny

      It would have been like Microsoft dropping WinFS for Vista, right?

    2. Re:This is devastating... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why do you need WinFS? OFS that came with Cairo already did everything you might need...

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  8. Re:Not surprised. by larry+bagina · · Score: 3, Funny

    No shit. I can't wait to switch to Windows 7 with the totally awesome WinFS.

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  9. Re:The Reason is Probably Technical by segedunum · · Score: 1, Funny

    That doesn't make any sense. It only makes sense to engineer a new filesystem if the other options are inadequate or unusable.

    It makes perfect sense. HPFS is simply far too long in the tooth now.

    For them to seek to do that, they must have rejected the effort to integrate ZFS for some technical reason.

    Yer................

    The complexity of integrating ZFS pales into comparison to the massive cost of engineering and implementing a new filesystem from the ground up.

    What's even more difficult is to integrate an existing filesystem into your OS that wasn't designed with your OS and your use cases in mind. It becomes virtually impossible to then change anything.

  10. Re:God forbid... by dangitman · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought it referred to "Zaphod, For Sure!" which is Zaphod Beeblebrox's Re-election slogan.

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  11. Re:Maybe they should look at HAMMER FS by Renderer+of+Evil · · Score: 5, Funny

    Steve Jobs commented on HAMMER FS inclusion in 10.7 during WWDC 2009. He said "due to legal and technical constraints we can't touch that"

  12. Re:Maybe they should look at HAMMER FS by nxtw · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thanks for breaking it down. Too bad Apple had to stop HAMMER time.