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Companies To Invade Your Retinas As Soon As Next Year?

Engadget is one of many reporting that Brother and NEC both seem to have retina display technology in the works for release next year. Brother, at least, seems to have a fully functional prototype, while so far NEC is mostly talk. "Naturally, there are a few considerable limitations compared to more traditional displays, but the company's as yet unnamed goggles do promise to beam an 800 x 600 image directly into your retina that'll appear as a 10-centimeter wide image floating about one meter in front of them -- which is certainly no small feat, even if it may not be the most practical one. Slightly less specific, but also working on a retina display of its own is NEC, which apparently hopes to incorporate a microphone into their display and use it as a real-time translation device that would quite literally display subtitles as you talk to someone."

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  1. oblig by Vo1t · · Score: 4, Funny

    I for one welcome the retina-porn overlords

    1. Re:oblig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Year 2011: It's now commonplace for the average man to walk around with an erection. Average male IQ drops 40 points.

    2. Re:oblig by ZekoMal · · Score: 4, Insightful

      2013: study confirms, women are still not having sex with the self-righteous nerds.

    3. Re:oblig by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Imagine the burn-in.

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    4. Re:oblig by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No thanks ... you can have my eyeballs when you pry them from my cold dead skull.

      Besides, can you imagine the product liability lawsuits from accidents? "He didn't see where he was going because he was looking at where he was going" will actually parse. That's just fucked up!

  2. A Little Bit Backwards? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...a real-time translation device that would quite literally display subtitles as you talk to someone.

    Wouldn't it make more sense to display subtitles as someone talks to you?

    1. Re:A Little Bit Backwards? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wouldn't it make more sense to display subtitles as someone talks to you?

      Indeed it would. And even better, it could then make that scene from Austin Powers an every-day reality. I love technology!

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    2. Re:A Little Bit Backwards? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Wouldn't it make more sense to display subtitles as someone talks to you?

      I can't speak for others, but I've had enough foot-in-mouth moments that maybe seeing what I currently am saying might help on occasion.

      And a 2 second lead time would be even better.

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    3. Re:A Little Bit Backwards? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...a real-time translation device that would quite literally display subtitles as you talk to someone.

      Wouldn't it make more sense to display subtitles as someone talks to you?

      That depends. It could have a heuristics system to ensure that the next word coming out of your mouth doesn't get you in trouble:

      Wife: How do these pants make my butt look?
      Husband: It makes your butt look extremely HALT, FULL STOP. EXCEPTION ERROR. ALTERNATE VALUE very small, dear.

      Boss: So, Peter, what do you think about my proposal for extended work hours with no overtime?
      Peter: I think you are a fu-HALT, FULL STOP. EXCEPTION ERROR. ALTERNATE VALUE -n person and a brilliant leader!

      Son: Hey dad, what's an erection?
      Dad: Well, you see, it's when a man HALT, FULL STOP. EXCEPTION ERROR. ALTERNATE VALUE asks your mother.

      Oh the applications.

    4. Re:A Little Bit Backwards? by Hurricane78 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Peter: I think you are a fu-HALT, FULL STOP. EXCEPTION ERROR. ALTERNATE VALUE -n person and a brilliant leader!

      You call that getting out of trouble? Do you really not see the long-term effects of this behavior?? I call that "trouble". And you fully deserve being treated that way, for acting like this.
      Protip: If you don't learn to say "NO", you'll end up as a slave. But hey, it's nothing bad for me. In fact it strengthens me if I can exploit you. So please, keep on doing it!

      Son: Hey dad, what's an erection?

      And what's your problem with that one? Tell him, for god's sake. We're not in the dark ages anymore!

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  3. Invasion is such a strong word... by RobertB-DC · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think "Liberation" would be a better word. The companies will enter the eyeball (in small numbers), and will be cheered by all the cells... at first. But then they'll get caught up in the bitter rivalries, with renegade Rods lobbing bombs at the Cones, who will in turn blame the support cells in the Sclera for fomenting dissent.

    This can only end badly.

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  4. Obligatory joke by dgatwood · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do not look into goggles with remaining eye.

    Seriously, though, does anybody else find the idea of projecting directly on the eye a little disturbing?

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    1. Re:Obligatory joke by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The writers of Star Trek: TNG certainly did. On a related note, there could be Hypnotic applications to such technology.

    2. Re:Obligatory joke by sunderland56 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not just projecting onto the retina - projecting directly onto the retina with lasers.

      Many people shy away from laser eye surgery - I can imagine this device will be a bit difficult to market. Imagine the "phosphor burn" effect on your retina.... not pretty. My bet is that this won't appear in the lawsuit-happy USA any day soon.

    3. Re:Obligatory joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It is very different. This system uses a scanning system to disperse the light energy over the retinal display area. If the scanning system fails for any reason and the laser stays focused on one "pixel" for an extended period of time, all the energy will be focused in one spot. Result: instant scitoma.

    4. Re:Obligatory joke by noundi · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It is very different. This system uses a scanning system to disperse the light energy over the retinal display area. If the scanning system fails for any reason and the laser stays focused on one "pixel" for an extended period of time, all the energy will be focused in one spot. Result: instant scitoma.

      Phew! Good thing I have eyelids. Never leave home without 'em!

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    5. Re:Obligatory joke by ThatMegathronDude · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You won't know anything's wrong until its far too late.

    6. Re:Obligatory joke by chihowa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Seriously, though, does anybody else find the idea of projecting directly on the eye a little disturbing?

      Having been hit in the eye with a laser at a light show (flight path was supposed to terminate below where I was, but something went wrong), and lucky to escape without long term injury, I do.

      Having had half my head seared off by an industrial metal-cutting laser, I agree with you. The microwatt lasers that these systems use must be identical to the ones that they use in laser light shows.

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    7. Re:Obligatory joke by deathguppie · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's already too late... Muhahahahaha!

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  5. Finally I could run for political office by speedlaw · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I always remember faces, but names are tough. Here I could finally know everyone's name (combined with some facial recognition software).

  6. "Fun" Mods by StaticEngine · · Score: 5, Funny

    Replace that low power LED with a super-high-power multi-Watt LED!

    Hilarity ensues!

    (As does screaming, and permanant blindness.)

    1. Re:"Fun" Mods by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Help! The goggles, they do too much!

  7. Prototype in article doesn't seem very practical by rhdv · · Score: 2, Informative
    I mean the thing is right in front of one of your eyes. This means the other eye is free to look at the environment. This leaves the brain the arduous task to merge the two images into something useful.

    Also the retina isn't that big. You are practically forced to look just right into the display to see something at all.

    I'm working at a device to make pictures of the retina and it's pretty hard to make good images of the retina. These guys projects something on it that must be sharp enough to be useful. Kudos if they pull it off, but I'm skeptical. Show me the goods. This is just marketing blabla.

  8. First Person Shooters by robvangelder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This will be awesome for 3d games (first person shooters).
    One image per eye, producing a 3d scene.

    I imagine generation 1 will look weird with all the images being in focus, even though the Z distance varies.
    With a little more work, generation 2 could detect what you are trying to focus on - like those eye test machines do - and produce a more realistic scene - blurry in the background, sharp foreground.

    It would be cool to hit a key and have the scene zoom on what you're looking at.

    1. Re:First Person Shooters by caseih · · Score: 3, Informative

      Having sensors detect eye movement and focus is essential for making 3d goggles. Your brain is constantly moving your eyes in order to get depth information. That and head movement. Regular goggles are very tiring to use because when your eyes move around, the scene does not. This is very confusing for your brain and causes my eyes to really hurt after a while.

  9. Invasion? by CannonballHead · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How is this "invasion" if you need to willingly put on a special pair of goggles that enable it?

    It's sort of like calling someone accepting a gift at Christmas robbery or theft..

  10. Imagine this by abbynormal+brain · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Imagine a world with many "blank" surfaces ... dull? Not without your wireless network retina vision (WNRV) - projected advertisement on "billboard surfaces" just around the (metaphorical) corner!

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    1. Re:Imagine this by McGiraf · · Score: 2, Funny

      Google Goggles.

  11. 10 cm x 10 cm or 10 cm^2? by MartinSchou · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Engadget article says "10-centimeter wide image" where as the Register article that Engadget uses at its source says a 10cm^2 object.

    That's quite a difference. If the image displayed is also in 4:3, that makes the Engadget image 7.5 times larger (10x7.5 cms).

    1. Re:10 cm x 10 cm or 10 cm^2? by Jay+L · · Score: 3, Funny

      Either way, if I'm trying to read a 10cm-wide display that appears to be a meter in front of me, I'm going to lean forward to read it. Of course, that's futile with a retinal display... I predict a lot of hunched-over early adopters!

  12. Re:Too little too late by pwfffff · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm sorry to be the first to inform you, but you have been judged as having an imagination which is unfit to be used in conjunction with this website. Please remove this URL from your favorites and hand in your geek card on the way out.

    Thank you.

  13. Tsk. That's the best Simpsons meme you've got? by Valdrax · · Score: 2, Funny

    Naturally, there are a few considerable limitations compared to more traditional displays, but the company's as yet unnamed goggles do promise to beam an 800 x 600 image directly into your retina that'll appear as a 10-centimeter wide image floating about one meter in front of them -- which is certainly no small feat, even if it may not be the most practical one.

    I would've pointed out that this is currently vaporware.
    In other words: THE GOGGLES! THEY DO NOTHING!

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  14. Re:Prototype in article doesn't seem very practica by StaticEngine · · Score: 5, Interesting

    See, that's the awesome thing. They put a tiny camera on the other side, then project what the camera sees/the device obscures right onto your retina, plus some extra info. It's like the projector isn't even there!

    Sure there are some parallax issues, and one day you forget it's there, go to bed with it on, roll over, and gouge your eye out, but hey, that's the price of progress!

  15. So, I guess you could say... by Anubis+IV · · Score: 2, Funny

    The goggles (from NEC), they do nothing?

  16. Re:Tsk. That's the best Simpsons meme you've got? by sexconker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    HEY WORLD: GET IT RIGHT.

    "My eyes! The goggles do nothing!"

  17. Re:Tsk. That's the best Simpsons meme you've got? by Valdrax · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hah, owned. I even did a Google search for "goggles nothing" to make sure I had the right phrase, but I didn't scroll down or follow any of the links. Sloppy.

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  18. Re:I'm no biologist... by CityZen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A CRT also has "no real equivalent to the image." It's just a scanned electron beam that lights up an area of phosphor for a small fraction of a second. Any image you see is just the result of light from multiple directions (the area of the image) entering your eyes within a small window of time.

    Also, no practical HMDs use just a point light source scanned over the retina, since this results in a "eye box" that's much too small. The eye box is the volume of space that your pupil must be in in order to see the image. In order to be practical, a scanned point light source needs to pass through a beam spreader of some sort in order to enlarge the eye box. It's difficult to make an HMD with both a large eye box and a large FOV. (It's actually difficult to make an HMD with a big FOV period.)

    As far as safety goes, there are typically several levels of fail-safes built into laser-scanned displays, including a "dead man's switch" which cuts power to the lasers if the scanner stops scanning. Hopefully, no manufacturer is stupid enough to depend upon software alone to control the laser power.

  19. Insightful? by Valdrax · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Either someone's having a bizarre laugh at my expense, or the standards for positive moderation near the top of the thread are just really, really low.

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