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The Internet Turns 40, For a Second Time

sean_nestor writes with this excerpt from The Register: "Some date the dawn of the net to September 12, 1969, when a team of engineers at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) connected the first two machines on the first node of ARPAnet, the US Department of Defense-funded network that eventually morphed into the modern interwebs. But others — including Professor Leonard Kleinrock, who led that engineering team — peg the birthday to October 29, when the first message was sent between the remote nodes. 'That's the day,' Kleinrock tells The Reg, 'the internet uttered its first words.' ...A 50kbps AT&T pipe connected the UCLA and SRI nodes, and the first message sent was the word 'log' — or at least that was the idea. UCLA would send the 'log' and SRI would respond with 'in.' But after UCLA typed the 'l' and the 'o,' the 'g' caused a memory overflow on the SRI IMP. ... 'So the first message was "Lo," as in "Lo and Behold,"' Kleinrock says. 'We couldn't have asked for a better message — and we didn't plan it.'"

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  1. Ping Time? by xmas2003 · · Score: 3, Funny
    So what was the ping time of the first message?

    I.e. my guess is with a memory overflow after two characters, the network stack wasn't exactly the fastest thing around.

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    1. Re:Ping Time? by Burdell · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, actually it was the fastest thing around, because it was the only thing around!

    2. Re:Ping Time? by kevmeister · · Score: 5, Informative
      Ping time?

      I'm sorry, but the original Arpanet did not have ICMP or pings. This was years before the invention of IP.

      I am not sure if it even used 8-bit ASCII. Many, many systems of that day were 6-bit ASCII (no lower-case letters) or EBCDIC. A "word" could have been 12, 16, 18, 24, 36, or 60 bits. (There were MANY other lengths including 1 and 29, but these were oddities.) Note that most of those were multiples of 6, so 6-bit ASCII was the more common unless it was an IBM Computer. I suspect that this initial use lacked anything that could be called a "protocol stack", but I was still in high school and thought the Arpanet was there so I could play Zork on the ITS systems at MIT, so I am far from sure.

      Now, 40 years later, I'm pretty sure I was right about the reason for the Arpanet.

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    3. Re:Ping Time? by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >>>thought the Arpanet was there so I could play Zork

      ZORK online: Unfortunately this doesn't "fee" right; it should be light blue text on a dark blue background the way I remember. Or pale green on a dark green CRT. (shrug). http://thcnet.net/zork/

      You are in an open field west of a big white house with a boarded front door. There is a small mailbox here.

      > open mailbox

      Opening the mailbox reveals:
      A leaflet.

      > read leaflet

      Welcome to Zork! Zork is a game of adventure, danger, and low cunning. In it you will explore some of the most amazing territory ever seen by mortal man. Hardened adventurers have run screaming from the terrors contained within.

      No computer should be without one!

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    4. Re:Ping Time? by autora · · Score: 4, Funny

      Please remember to tag posts like this as NSFW

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  2. Oh great... by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 2, Funny

    Great, I can just imagine all the corny jokes Slashdotters are goin[NO CARRIER]

    1. Re:Oh great... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 5, Funny

      Great, I can just imagine all the corny jokes Slashdotters are goin[NO CARRIER]

      lo[NO CARRIER]

      Ha! Now you'll never know if I was laughing out loud or just correcting you!

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    2. Re:Oh great... by commodore64_love · · Score: 4, Interesting

      ATDT5601750

      (dialtone)..... dee-doo-bee-boop-da-ba-dee-bee.... skeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee skrooooooo....

      CONNECT 1200
      .
      .
      .
      Welcome to Slash Dot BBS!
      login: commodor
      pass: $$$$

      command (H for help): E

      Welcome to Email. Command (H for help): N

      TO: Mobile
      SUBJ: Huh?
      BODY: Hello. Your last message did not come through. All I received was "lo". Was that LOL? Or "lo here come the sheep"? hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. L8r. /end

      command (H for help): S

      Message sent. Command (H for help): +++

      ATH
      .
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      *#$!@^(!%!$(&

      NO CARRIER

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    3. Re:Oh great... by TheLink · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > Nice...where do I send the Guiness?

      It'll probably get stolen on its way to Malaysia... ;)

      > But the question remains, were you elite enough to simply listen to the tones, or did you hold it up to a VoIP phone and look at the Asterisk console output?

      Neither :).

      I uploaded the relevant bit to: http://www.dialabc.com/sound/detect/

      There's also this: http://www.zeebar.com/tkddt/ (but didn't work so well on the sample).

      I could probably learn it, but I'm just too lazy to sit down and practice deciphering DTMF tones.

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  3. So whatcha saying is.... by thatseattleguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...that the very first even to occur on the Internet was a **buffer overflow**? Talk about a zero-day exploit.

  4. 40 years of 40th birthdays by gmuslera · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Where you draw the line when really started the internet as we know it? Probably in the next days or years several dates will be claimed as the 40th anniversary of a basic and fundamental moment that we could say as the birth of internet, 1st ping, 1st mail, 1st web, 1st spam, 1st botnet, etc there are a lot of things on which we can draw a line and say that what was before wasnt properly "internet"

    1. Re:40 years of 40th birthdays by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, I don't get to change my age based on when I uttered my first words, why should the internet?

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    2. Re:40 years of 40th birthdays by shaitand · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Maybe because you aren't a network of computers."

      What an odd assumption.

  5. The FIRST internet session had a buffer overflow?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    My god, that's more apropos than they could possibly have realized. Things haven't changed since then either.

  6. 7 Weeks Gestation by RobertB-DC · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Some date the dawn of the net to September 12, 1969, when a team of engineers at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) connected the first two machines on the first node of ARPAnet... others peg the birthday to October 29, when the first message was sent between the remote nodes.

    That's not such a difficult metaphor to construct. The net was *conceived* when the two nodes came together, just as you and I were *conceived* when two nodes, um, er, yeah. And just like then, nobody knew what the result of coupling of the first Internet nodes would be, if anything.

    It was *born* when someone slapped it on the bottom and it did something seen by the people gathered around. You probably went "WAAAA!". The Internet went "LO". Of course "G" caused a fault, because the next letter was supposed to be "L".

    So I think it would be fair to say that the world would want to celebrate the "birthday" of the Internet today, October 29, just as the world (or your corner of it) celebrate your birthday on the day you made your emergence into the world.

    Celebrating the day the Internet was *conceived*... well, that seems a bit weird.

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    1. Re:7 Weeks Gestation by bondiblueos9 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A child isn't born when it first makes noise or speaks, its born when it comes out! You could say the internet first learned to talk on Oct 29, was born on Sep 12, and was conceived, well, whenever they first thought of making it.

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  7. Happy birthday by SnarfQuest · · Score: 5, Funny

    ha

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  8. Re:surprising first message by oodaloop · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I thought the first message sent across the internet was FrIsT Ps0T! If it wasn't, it should've been.

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  9. If i remember my computing history class correctly by kalpol · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It wasn't caused by two characters, it was caused by the automatic command recognition on the receiving host - typing "LO" listed all the commands that started with those letters, and that caused the overflow.

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  10. Honestly... by Smooth+and+Shiny · · Score: 2, Funny

    Someone get Al Gore on the phone, please. He can clear this all up and tell us the very SECOND the intertubes was born.

    1. Re:Honestly... by zippthorne · · Score: 2, Informative

      As a congressman, his ultimate act was to vote "yes" on the appropriations bill which resulted in it eventually being signed into being.

      I suppose you could say he "push-button'd" it into being. If they were using push-button vote tallying at the time...

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  11. First Packet? by Comatose51 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When was the first IP packet sent? Shouldn't that be the birthday of the Internet?

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  12. Re:What is this Bullshit? by camperdave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why was this the "birthday" and not when two machines were first connected to eachother?

    Considering that an internet is when two NETWORKS are connected together, the event of the first connection between two machines does not qualify.

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  13. Re:Try 18 years. Re:40 years of 40th birthdays by kagaku · · Score: 2, Informative

    Only 18 years old? It must be 1999! Forget about buffer overflows, the world is going to end in two months!!

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  14. Re:What is this Bullshit? by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why was this the "birthday" and not when two machines were first connected to eachother?

    Simple. This was not the first time two hosts were connected together via a serial line. If you only cared about that, you'd have to go back a lot farther. Heck, the first modem dates back to 1962. What made the Internet possible was not the notion of having computers that could talk to other computers. The key change that made the Internet possible was the notion of all the computers speaking a single language and having routers that knew how to pass messages on to other routers, eventually to another computer. That was not realized until the first packet was sent on a packet-switched network, which in its most primitive form, occurred on October 29, 1969.

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