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How Terahertz Waves Tear Apart DNA

KentuckyFC writes "Great things are expected of terahertz waves, the radiation in the electromagnetic spectrum between microwaves and the infrared. Terahertz waves pass through non-conducting materials such as clothes, paper, wood and brick and so cameras sensitive to them can peer inside envelopes, into living rooms and 'frisk' people at distance. That's not to mention the great potential they have in medical imaging. Because terahertz photons are not energetic enough to break chemical bonds or ionize electrons, it's easy to dismiss fears over their health effects. And yet the evidence is mixed: some studies have reported significant genetic damage while others, although similar, have reported none. Now a team led by Los Alamos National Labs thinks it knows why. They say that although the forces that terahertz waves exert on double-stranded DNA are tiny, in certain circumstances resonant effects can unzip the DNA strands, tearing them apart. This creates bubbles in the strands that can significantly interfere with processes such as gene expression and DNA replication. With terahertz scanners already appearing in airports and hospitals, the question that now urgently needs answering is what level of exposure is safe."

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  1. Who cares... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who cares if we turn into an entire country of genetically deformed freaks, at least we'll be a country of SAFE and FREE genetically deformed freaks, right? Just as envisioned by our Founding Fathers. God Bless America.

    1. Re:Who cares... by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 5, Funny

      I know what you mean. I had a friend who talked on the cell phone all the time, and then 7 years later - BAM - herpes.

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  2. Shoe-Fitting Flouroscope by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Reminds me of the time I was at the Science Museum in Minnesota and they had an exhibit from the Museum of Bad Science (or something like that). Anyway they had a shoe-fitting flouroscope which was a device that shoe stores bought. Basically you would put shoes on your child's feet but to see how well they fit you would jam their leg in this thing and see the bones of the toes up to the tip of the shoe and see how well it fit. See the problem yet?

    Although store clerks were frequently exposed to the radiation from the machines, the radiation was more dangerous to children who placed their feet directly into the radiation. The exposure rate is thought to have been approximately 0.005 Gy to 0.058 Gy per second. If children tried on several pairs of shoes per visit it was posited that they could be exposed to as much as 0.1 Gy to 1.16 Gy. In fact, experiments indicated that radiation could exceed 1 microGy per hour as far as 10 feet away from the machine.

    This device should be a warning (and I think it has been if you look at how cautious people are of new technologies like cell phones). Hopefully my sperm aren't being fried when I walk through a scanner in an airport--at least the parents of the 30s were using X-rays for their convenience and not the invasion of their privacy!

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  3. The airport scanners are passive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you follow the link provided about the airport scanners you find that they are passive devices meaning they don't emit terahertz waves they only recieve the waves coming off of everything around us.
    There are some devices out there that using terahertz radiation to inspect packages much like x-ray today.

    1. Re:The airport scanners are passive by natehoy · · Score: 5, Informative

      The MIT article has no citations to any models coming out that use active scanning. Meanwhile, the article summary clearly implies, no, actually STATES, that they are being introduced already into airports. Which is patently false. Active scanners ARE being introduced, but they are milliwave body scanners, and these passive t-wave scanners appear to be a more effective and safer alternative.

      "With terahertz scanners already appearing in airports and hospitals, the question that now urgently needs answering is what level of exposure is safe."

      The "terahertz scanners already appearing in airports", like the cited ThruVision T5000, are passive units. There is no discussion about "what level of exposure is safe" because there is no exposure to terahertz radiation. It's detecting what your body and possessions are already emitting.

      The t-band scanners are being tested for two reasons that seem to make sense to me, at least:

      1. Their imagery can detect materials more accurately whilst simultaneously not getting as accurate a picture of the actual body. This is better scanning with better privacy.
      2. The new scanners are passive t-ray detectors as opposed to active milliwave detector.

      Better scanning, less violation of privacy, no active emitter. If true, this sounds like a trifecta to me. I'd much rather pass through one of these than a milliwave unit.

      If and when ACTIVE t-band scanners start being introduced into general airport use, I'll share your concern and be right there with you in the pat-down line.

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    2. Re:The airport scanners are passive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Disclaimer: I am an expert in millimeter-wave and terahertz imaging systems.

      I wanted to emphasize to everyone reading this is that the parent is exactly right. ThruVision (the only commercial terahertz imaging system currently in airports) is passive, in that it detects the blackbody radiation being emitted by your body, clothes, and other objects, and compares it to the blackbody radiation of the background. The apparent difference in radiometric temperature is what constitutes the final image. There is no emission of terahertz radiation by this system.

      On the other hand, the active microwave systems, which operate around 35 GHz (there are variations on this, of course) are essentially an active radar system. You are exposed to some non-ionizing radiation, and its reflection from your body, clothes, and other objects is received and compiled to create an image. In terms of radiation, then, the active microwave systems are irradiating you, but at a level far below your cell phone. I can give citations if you like (or refer to the SPIE conference publications by the Pacific Northwest National Lab group who pioneered the system that is currently in airports.)

      Or we can talk about privacy. The active microwave systems have far better spatial resolution than the passive terahertz systems, since they take full advantage of phase in the imaging, and have a great SNR due to transmitting their own microwave power. (the passive systems mostly use direct detectors, which are really only sensitive to the magnitude of the radiation. ThruVision's, though, uses a heterodyne receiver, and thus is quite sensitive, but since it is very narrow-band [340 GHz, +/- 5 GHz], its sensitivity is similar to a direct detector) Fancy radar algorithms give you spatial resolution far better than the diffraction-limited optics definition you are probably used to hearing about. On the other hand, the passive terahertz systems are limited by the diffraction limit, and thus their operational wavelength gives you a good idea of their spatial resolution.

      You would then say that a passive terahertz system operating at 1 THz would give you much better images than a passive system at 340 GHz, and in terms of spatial resolution you are right. However, it is commonly known that clothing transmittance drops off quickly as frequency increases from 100 to 1000 GHz (and of course even more at higher frequencies, which is why you don't see thermal IR cameras being used to detect ceramic knives under your clothes). So, somewhere between 100 and 1000 GHz is a happy medium in terms of spatial resolution AND being able to see through multiple layers of clothing.

      And yes the parent was also right that the passive terahertz systems are very bad at gathering an image of the body, since it is essentially isothermal. No radiometric temperature contrast? No image.

      One thing that everyone has missed is the amount of power needed to "unzip" DNA with terahertz frequencies. (TFS poses this question, actually. The answer is in the arxiv article.) It's actually quite high, and it is very difficult to find a source that can emit this level of power. Yes, there are terahertz lasers (at the several microwatt level), but you should be more afraid of a 10 micron CO2 laser that will punch a hole through your chest, and is also quite invisible.

  4. Re:Ethical use of panic... by oldspewey · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hasn't it always been the case that you have the option to decline to use "the machine" and be hand-searched instead?

    Until this issue gets resolved, that's what I plan to do anyhow.

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  5. In most cases, airport scanners are still optional by MadCow42 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The times I've encountered the terahertz scanners at airports, they've always been optional (although they don't make it clear to you that it is). If directed to one, I've always simply asked if I must use it or if I had a choice of a "normal" metal detector. EVERY time they've allowed me to choose (and I travel a LOT). Most times they take a note of it or ask me to sign a sheet to indicate my declination - I assume so they can figure out if people object or not.

    Asking the quesiton never hurts. It also sends the message that this intrusion isn't accepted by the public. Don't surrender to these things willingly.

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  6. Re:Doesn't worry me by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, it's a theoretical explanation for some difficult experimental results. The issue was that some studies suggested that THz radiation would be harmful at any frequency/power range, while others pegged it as only being significant at particular resonant amplitudes or frequencies. It transpires that in the presence of thermal perturbations, you do indeed get some non-specific disruption of the base pairing, which would only be an issue if you had a long enough exposure to actually get a significant thermal perturbation and thus cause a very significant disruption. However there is also a resonant mechanism, at a particular frequency with a critical minimum amplitude, that can immediately cause a significant disruption, without the need to wait for a particularly big thermal perturbation. That's my reading, anyway.

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