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Paywalls To Drive Journalists Away In Addition To Consumers?

Hugh Pickens writes "With news organizations struggling and newsroom jobs disappearing, each week brings new calls from writers and editors who believe their employers should save themselves by charging for Internet access. However, in an interesting turnabout, the NY Times reports that Saul Friedman, a journalist for more than 50 years and a columnist for Newsday since 1996, announced last week he was quitting after Newsday decided that non-subscribers to Newsday's print edition will have to pay $5 a week to see much of the site, making it one of the few newspapers in the country to take such a plunge. 'My column has been popular around the country, but now it was really going to be impossible for people outside Long Island to read it,' he says. Friedman, who is 80, said he would continue to write about older people for the site 'Time Goes By.' 'One of the reasons why the NY Times eventually did away with its old "paywall" was that its big name columnists started complaining that fewer and fewer people were reading them,' writes Mike Masnick at Techdirt. 'Newspapers who decide to put up a paywall may find that their best reporters decide to go elsewhere, knowing that locking up their own content isn't a good thing in terms of career advancement.'"

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  1. Reporters are basically bloggers then by rfugger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Reading this, it strikes me that news sites are just big blogging sites. No blogger would want their content hidden behind a paywall, and reporters are more and more just professional bloggers.

    1. Re:Reporters are basically bloggers then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Reading this, it strikes me that news sites are just big blogging sites. No blogger would want their content hidden behind a paywall, and reporters are more and more just professional bloggers.

      You're talking about columnists, not reporters. They are different.

    2. Re:Reporters are basically bloggers then by R2.0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "You're talking about columnists, not reporters. They are different."

      Really? Because the best I can tell, the only difference is that columnists are upfront about injecting their opinions into theior writing , and journalists pretend that they don't - sometimes even to themselves.

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    3. Re:Reporters are basically bloggers then by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 5, Funny

      You say that but I was going to be a journalist purely for the low pay. Then I realised I could be up to my elbows in shit and get low pay by cleaning public toilets and that's how I got where I am today.

    4. Re:Reporters are basically bloggers then by Itchyeyes · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're talking about columnists, not reporters. They used to be different.

      Fixed it for you

    5. Re:Reporters are basically bloggers then by PriceIke · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Kind of like .. oh I don't know .. musicians.

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    6. Re:Reporters are basically bloggers then by ubrgeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not entirely - Sure, when I was a reporter it did great things for my ego to have folks tell me they read an article I did and having one on the front page made it tough to fit my ego through a doorway, but I (and most of the other folks I went through J-School with) did it because we honestly thought we would accomplish something, do something to better society. While I won a couple of awards for some invetigative pieces I did (specifically on the blight of the homeless in Central California and programs designed to protect battered women) and saw some (minor) positive changes come of it, I realized that I was never going to be one of those reporters who would change the world. I didn't decide to get out of the business because my ego was bruised that I wasn't accomplishing a lofty goal - I got out of it because I moved into fields where I have been able to do some good.

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    7. Re:Reporters are basically bloggers then by grcumb · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I didn't decide to get out of the business because my ego was bruised that I wasn't accomplishing a lofty goal - I got out of it because I moved into fields where I have been able to do some good.

      Heh, interesting. Did you know that road runs both ways?

      I've fallen sideways into part-time journalism because I wanted to do some good. After 4 years of work with NGOs in a developing country, I realised that some important issues just weren't getting the analysis (and attention) they deserved, so I started writing a weekly column in one of the national newspapers. It helped my work quite a bit, because whenever I had a conversation with someone, we'd have common context to work with.

      Since then, I was asked to write a general purpose editorial column in the other major newspaper. So now I spend more time writing and researching than I do with my NGO work. Happily, there are others to pick up the slack.

      My biggest lesson? Writing a clear, well-argued editorial is hard. But writing a clear, well argued editorial that leads people to stop me in the streets and thank me for raising the issue is incredibly rewarding. Sometimes they agree with me, sometimes they don't. I don't care about that. I just want them to think.

      If my columns were ever put behind a paywall, I'd just post them on my own site for free (well, actually, I do that anyway). Limiting exposure to such material is, in my opinion, cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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    8. Re:Reporters are basically bloggers then by grcumb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Getting into journalism "to do good" misses the point of journalism entirely.

      Provide analysis to "do good". Be a journalist by reporting the damn facts.

      I couldn't disagree more. Publishing objective truth and honest analysis is 'doing good.'

      First, if you don't think truth-telling shouldn't be pursued in the spirit of public service, then what motivation would you suggest?

      It takes a thick skin and a lot more motivation than simple greed to endure the grind of getting and publishing facts. The publisher of our national daily has been threatened, beaten and even briefly jailed for publishing the truth. One of his reporters was beaten so badly she miscarried. She's still on the beat. There are far safer ways of making money than that.

      Second, analysis that isn't just as well-sourced and researched as straight reporting isn't worth the paper it's printed on. I'll agree that in the US there's a noticeable dearth of good analysis in print. But elsewhere in the world, that's not always the case.

      For my part, I work very closely with the reporters to verify facts and events, and I have also conducted original research as well. I've been wrong on points of fact once or twice, but not very often.

      Opinion is... well, opinion. I'm paid to have one. But to the extent that time and opportunity allow, it's based on a full appreciation of the facts and solid, clear reasoning. And that is the good I'm trying to do.

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  2. Opinion columnists are like bloggers by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Opinion columnists are just like bloggers. Even if there is a sound argument for a news organization to succeed by putting up a pay-wall on their website (and I believe that a good news organization could do so and succeed), it does not apply to opinion columnists who are not providing anything different than bloggers do.

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  3. Net Neutrality by TonTonKill · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From TFA:

    Customers of Cablevision, the cable and Internet provider that owns Newsday, and people who subscribe to Newsday in print will still be able to browse Newsday.com unfettered

    Would any of the currently proposed net neutrality laws prevent Cablevision from charging other people for web content that it gives to its own ISP customers for free? Or is this considered an acceptable competitive practice?

  4. Not "Reporters" or "Journalists"! by DragonWriter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Both the Newsday columnist who resigned over the Newsday paywall and the NY Times columnists who protested the NY Times paywall are just that: columnists, not reporters or journalists.

    Columnists are people for whom the newspaper is a vehicle for the broad distribution of their writings, which are not even notionally constrained by the standards of fact reporting, or even news analysis. Columns are vehicles by which the columnists ideas, pet causes, ideology, other products (like books), etc., are promoted. The interests of columnists may be very different than the interests of journalists with regard to paywalls.

  5. newspapers commit suicide with poor pricing by peter303 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd support up to a dollar per week, 20% discount for year-paid, for a couple of may favorite online news sites. But not $250 a year. Printing and distribution costs are nearly negligible then. All the money would go to paying reportors and editors. It sounds like the print media did not learn the "Goldilocks" online music tale: CDs too much, napster too little and iTunes about right. When you get it right you'll have paying customers.

  6. Brief delay might work; Consolidation WILL happen by dwheeler · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Linux Weekly News (LWN.net) has managed to keep going by having a temporary paywall. That is, you pay to get immediate access to articles, and after a week, anyone can see them. This might work in some cases, at the least, you could generate some revenue if people were willing to pay for immediate access, while not driving away the authors who want many readers. I will say that for LWN, they're making some money but they certainly aren't rolling in it, so even if that works, it will not bring back the massive money inflows that these organizations are used to.

    Let's be honest: There is a glut of news organizations, and consolidation WILL happen. The internet has permanently changed the market. I don't see that the U.S. government needs to get involved; we have NOT lost the ability to receive news. Yes, many news organizations are going out of business, and in the future we will need fewer of them. But that's simply how competition works.

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  7. wall building by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Modern news distribution derives its value from two things: First, the reliability of its product. Second, the timeliness of its product. Newspapers and magazines fail the test because they are release daily, weekly, or even monthly -- whereas other distribution mediums can do it in seconds or minutes. This is not, however, what killed them. The deciding factor is therefore the reliability of the product. Unfortunately, the news industry has made several very bad decisions regarding this:

    First, was catering to certain groups (liberals, conservatives, etc.) and following the demographics rather than the story. While this improves profitibility over the short term, it sets things up for a diminishing returns cycle -- to maintain the higher profitibility the product must be targeted more with each iteration, leading to an alienation of those who do not share the increasingly-restricted viewpoint. That is to say, they become aware of the bias and lose confidence in the product. This "short sell" ideology permeates many industries -- in some cases, the results are more dramatic and immediate than other cases.

    Second, was the packaging of such information. Even leading up to the 9/11 media event, packaging of information from major news sources was being called into question. Scandals rocked the New York Times, Washington Post, and all major television networks within a three-year timespan -- why? In every case, the rush to get the information to press caused errors to be made. In other words, a lack of process control. The coverage of 9/11 -- with its constant flood of meaningless and un-contextualized data overloaded people. Simply put, anything that's "hot" is over-saturated and in their rush to deliver the latest "news" they bury people in a crap-flood of information -- there was a loss of impact.

    The third factor in the loss of reliability of major media organizations was a lack of peer review. Because most of the media distribution in this country is owned by a select few individuals and/or corporations, the industry homogenized. There was no further innovation. In the quest for profitibility, only methods of reporting and investigation were used that guaranteed eyeballs. As history has shown time and time again, the key to the long-term survival of a business, or industry, is adapability. This was sacrificed when the industry homogenized into only a few major corporate players -- leading to formulaic products that were too similar to one another.

    Finally, the rise of social networking and the internet proved that word of mouth is the most effective way of spreading information that is NOT time-sensitive. Ironically, the random churning of information on the internet was better at distributing stories than decades-old systems of distribution: Why? Because the information had been separated out into a free-format. Like CDs, where you have to purchase the entire album in order to get that one song -- this was how the media operated. No longer -- and the result was that over a period of days or weeks, many millions more would see a given product because of referrals by friends. The news industry failed to capitalize upon this by creating stand-alone product that could be distributed between people and remain intact (for example, with its advertising or "related" content hooks, perhaps in something similar to PDF).

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  8. Do they prefer the alternative? by ceswiedler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Reporters may leave if their newspaper starts charging for content, yes. However, I think a few more reporters might leave if the newspaper goes bankrupt. People aren't buying newspapers any more. They may not want to pay for online content now, but that's mostly because the 'free' online content is being subsidized by papers which are rather quickly going out of business. As that happens, the remaining papers will end up charging for online content (since how else will they make any money) and people will either pay for it (because there's no other option for getting good journalism) or not pay for it (because they'd rather read free blogosphere crap). But if there's one thing I'll lay odds on, it's that expensive content (like good journalism) isn't going to be available for free. TANSTAAFL, you know.

  9. Re:The Return of the Pamphleteer by PriceIke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I disagree completely. I think people will absolutely pay for news--but opinion is, as said upwards of here, worth exactly crap in terms of monetary value. And so little of newsreporting today has even the PRETENSE of objectivity and professional integrity that nobody is interested in paying for it. Why pay for bloggers? Blogs are free and free for a reason.

    This is why the Wall Street Journal's readership is actually going UP while their competitors are losing money right and left. The WSJ has actual reporting going on, which is thorough, professionally edited and mostly free from bias and agenda. And they do a good job of keeping their news pages and opinion pages distinct from each other, unlike the Times and most of the now-dying newspaper industry.

    Journalism used to be a craft, one that involved not only finding out what happened but reporting what happened objectively, leaving it to the reader to make up his or her own mind about what the story really means. Nowadays ersatz "journalists" think it's ok to be social crusaders, and objectivity is laughed off as though it were obsolete and unreasonable. (I graduated one of the nation's top journalism schools, and saw this firsthand.) This mindset is what has the newsroom in the grip of death.

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