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Iraq Swears By Dowsing Rod Bomb Detector

jggimi writes "According to the New York Times, more than fifteen hundred remote sensing devices have been sold to Iraq's Ministry of the Interior, at prices ranging from $16,500 to $60,000 each. The devices are used for bomb and weapon detection at checkpoints, and have no battery or other power source. Sounds great, but according to a retired United States Air Force officer, Lt. Col. Hal Bidlack, they work on the same principle as a Ouija board — the power of suggestion. He described the wand as nothing more than an explosives divining rod. Even though the device has been debunked by the US Military, the US Department of Justice, and even Sandia National Laboratories, the Iraqis are thrilled with the devices. 'Whether it's magic or scientific, what I care about is it detects bombs,' said Maj. Gen. Jehad al-Jabiri, head of the Ministry of the Interior's General Directorate for Combating Explosives."

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  1. Re:This kind of upsets me by quenda · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why should our good men and (and a few women) have to die to 'help' these people?

    They have oil, and lots of it. As do their neighbours. You seriously have not heard? There is no other reason.
    The US alone uses something like 20 million barrels a day and rising, while production is well under half that and falling.
    That's a billion dollars per day, and set to rise dramatically as production fails to rise with global demand.

  2. Re:Insightful by fracai · · Score: 4, Informative

    Presuming that those "tiny ferrite dots being pumped around" are iron in your blood, you're wrong. Blood iron isn't ferrous.

    Divining has long been shown to be explained by the ideomotor effect, environmental cues [1], and confirmation bias. It isn't any better than chance.

    If you think your abilities are genuine, allow me to introduce you to the 1 Million Dollars that must be waiting for you over at the JREF. http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html

    [1] Cues that anyone can pick up on, nothing that is unique to dowsing or dowsers.

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  3. Re:Another reason why by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Informative

    Agree, but MAD is hardly the best example... in fact, it actually makes a lot of sense, despite the fact that it is, indeed, mad. But look at some of the more ridiculous weapons exercises and theories funded by the Pentagon over the years -- who the hell else would come up with the idea of an anti-ballistic missile system based on a satellite and powered by a nuclear explosion? Or even more ridiculous stuff like the gay bomb. The Pentagon and intel agencies actually spent millions on "psychic warfare" projects at one point; one of the projects allegedly included a plan to develop some sort of time-travel based ABM device -- zap the enemy's missiles back in time so they can explode harmlessly in the past. Seriously. If the Iraqis are spending only $60k apiece on divining rods they are getting off cheap.

  4. Expensive placebos are more effective. by Animal+Farm+Pig · · Score: 4, Informative

    Expensive placebos are more effective.

  5. Re:Insightful by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Informative

    Mentioning James Randi's 'challenge' doesn't garner you (or him) any credibility. Its not exactly in the same league as an 'X' prize. He's backed out of his offer several times to my knowledge.

    You will have to do better than that. The only 'backing out' I've ever heard of has really just been sour grapes from losers who couldn't even pass the preliminary requirements of minimal verification, much less the full test of scientific reproducibility.

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  6. Re:Insightful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Your explanation might work except all test requirements are agreed upon by both parties. The tests are always accepted beforehand by both parties. And the conditions are always mind-numbingly simple, and people with real abilities should have no problem passing them. Look at the list of some who claim to be Dowsers:

    http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=87076
    -> was given a list of people on the missing persons list, he claimed he could indicate whether they were dead or alive. he picked half dead, half alive. They were all dead.
    http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=37686
    -> never formally applied
    http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=33082
    -> Would not allow analysis of his homemade 'amplifier'
    http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=29682
    -> performed his own double-blind tests only to discover that he had deluded himself
    http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=28111
    -> Withdrew his application

    Which ones of these do you think were gypped by the JRF? See them at http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=43, and find me one that you think was treated unfairly.

    Of the few people who have come forward to try to pursue the "I got gypped!" angle, I watched the videos and read the transcripts and they all failed miserably.

    In short, you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

  7. Re:Insightful by Quothz · · Score: 5, Informative

    Even today, the city of DeQueen, Arkansas employs an old Native American in the water department. He has the willow sticks like father in law used, but he also has a pair of copper rods that he likes better.

    That was such a fascinating story, I called up John O'Connor, Water Superintendent for DeQueen. Despite almost two decades with the city's water department, he knows nothing of such a man and denies that the city has used dowsing in his tenure or, to his knowledge, in his lifetime. Nor is he familiar with any local legends of such a thing. Since the department employs only 70 people, I'm pretty sure Mr. O'Connor is familiar with them all.

    I assume your father-in-law's acuity with the "witchin' sticks" is equally fictitious, and that your personal experience is simple wishful thinking.