While Linux doesn't support SRT, there is no software support required for Seagate's hybrid drives. All of the caching is handled by the drive firmware. It appears as a normal disk to the operating system. It works great with Linux-- I have two in different machines.
The boot time isn't the point-- it's an indicator of the problem. The problem is that Grandma doesn't know how to maintain her computer. It's full of crap (see above post). That crap typically loads at boot time. After it's loaded, it sits around stealing processor cycles and memory.
My core2duo laptop with 2GB of RAM running Windows 7 works great. I'm not compiling a lot of code on it, but it works for basic computer tasks. If I give my laptop to Grandma, after one year I expect it to be painful to use for basic computer tasks. See above re: crap.
So, if we want Grandma to have a computer to use that doesn't run dog slow, we have three options:
Train Grandma not to install stupid shit, and not to click 'OK' and 'Accept' without reading what it's for, and how to use msconfig.
Constantly maintain Grandma's computer to keep it free of crap.
Give Grandma a computer with a powerful multicore processor and lots of memory.
For most users, #1 is a lost cause. They just don't get it. If you have lots of free time, fuck it, do #2. Otherwise, it's better to do #3.
TLDR For basic computer uses, "Grandma" needs a significantly more powerful computer than you.
For non-technical parents and other users, I actually like lots of cores and lots of memory-- more so than 'power users.'
Have you ever seen some people boot up their machines? It will take 5 minutes because of the sheer amount of crap installed.
It will be shit like two different anti-virus suites (the first one's subscription expired, and they installed a new one without uninstalling the old). There will be a update checker for every conceivable thing that's been installed. There's the preloader software that loads whatever crappy application it is into memory at boot time so that the application starts faster when you click on it's associated file type. Then, there are all the various helpful toolbars for Internet Explorer that "enhance your internet experience" and delivery dollars to your inbox. Of course, the user will probably go through two or more inkjet printer/scanner/copier all-in-one devices that require the manufacturer's 300 MB "printing experience suite" to enhance user experience by making pop-up windows when the ink is low and will helpfully tell you where you can order more special photo printing paper. There's the two different desktop search tools that got installed when the user downloaded the kitten screensavers pack and accompanying mouse cursors. Then, there is the sidebar app showing the weather outside and what time it is in Fiji.
That's stuff I can think of off the top of my head. I have no idea how average users manage to cruft up their machines so much, but they do. Keep in mind also that they're probably not going to upgrade hardware for a few years, but they'll likely install iTunes 32, Internet Explorer 17, and Office 2016, which will have >1 GB memory footprints.
By having lots of cores, and lots of memory, you can give them a decent user experience even on a machine that they've bogged to shit.
Umm.. 12W difference is for an IDLE system. At load the difference is clearly closer to 80-100W.
No shit, Sherlock. Look at comment subject line.
Maybe for a desktop this doesn't matter. But given the decline of desktops and consumers moving to laptops (and even more mobile devices), these results are downright TERRIBLE for AMD.
If you think desktop chips (AMD or Intel) are used in laptops, you are an idiot.
I agree about multithreaded performance being important thing moving forward.
Regarding power consumption, anandtech review puts total system power consumption for Vishera tested at 12-13W more than Ivy Bridge. Scroll to bottom of page for chart. Bar and line graphs at top of page are misleading-- they put x axis at 50W, not 0W.
If you are concerned about power consumption, find 100W lightbulb in your house. Replace with CFL. You will have greater energy saving.
I'm part of that "ten fold increase" in VPN subscriptions. I had been meaning to sign up for VPN for a while (to protect anonymity online and to get access to BBC iPlayer), and the Olympics were just the push I needed to finally sign up.
If getting access to the Olympics on BBC is the spark that makes other people sign up for VPN, I think it's great. Pervasive use of VPN helps defeat the surveillance state.
I have a few computers at home running a variety of operating systems, but the two I use most frequently both run Windows 7. One is my work PC. I need to run Windows on that one because there are a few applications I need for work that are Windows only. The other is my gaming machine. I play a couple of Source mods on it,and I use Windows because it's much easier than trying to run the games on Linux.
If Valve would release Steam on Linux, and make it easy and straightforward to install Source mods on Linux, I will happily switch to Linux on my gaming machine. I'd even put up with Ubuntu if that were the distro they targeted. It would save me having to use a Windows license just to do gaming.
Perhaps Steam/Source on Linux wouldn't appeal to hardcore gamers who buy the latest AAA title every couple of months, but, for me, it's excellent.
It would be a couple GB of flash that is accessible to the OS as a block device. Then, let the OS use it for paging and for caching of frequently access files or blocks.
There should be a branding campaign so that consumers know that it is extra memory that will speed up their machine. Call it something like "turbo memory."
The fisheries off the coast of Somalia were destroyed by years of European countries dumping toxic waste and over fishing off the coast. What the fuck else are they supposed to do?
I lived in Africa for about a year. We shared a 14.4k modem connection between about 10 people. It that stayed up about half the time. In another place I lived, we had about 30 people sharing a 1.5Mbps satellite link with 350MB/day quota.
In both cases, internet access was possible for basic things like sending emails (without attachments), text browsing, etc., but the latency was so high and bandwidth so low that it took all pleasure out of internet use.
The danger of disconnecting completely is that you'll find something for which you "need" internet and make a visit to the local coffee shop or library where they have high speed access. You can spend a lot of money on gas and coffee that way. Having internet that's just slow and painful to use helps to avoid that.
So, maybe you should invest in a 9600 baud modem and find a dial-up ISP?
Also, as a tip, make sure you have a phone book and some road maps for your area.
No, it's not better unless it also takes into account the mass of the vehicle. Road wear increases with the cube of vehicle mass. A 5400 lbs Hummer causes 8x as much wear on the roadway as my 2700 lbs compact car. If we're taxing by miles driven, I demand to tax by the amount of wear caused during those miles. In which case, the Hummer can pay 8x taxes per mile.
We actually have a system in place that's more fair than tax by mileage. More massive vehicles require more energy to accelerate to speed (a result of physics) and typically need more energy to maintain speed (a result of styling). Through fuel taxes, we charge the more massive vehicles at a higher rate per mile driven-- as we should.
I don't know what is the paranoia about tax by miles driven. It would be a stupid and unfair tax. Perhaps people are concerned about wholesale surveillance. Well, you shouldn't be. Your movements are already tracked just fine through your mobile phone and other implements of the surveillance state. Why bother tracking a car when you want to track the driver and occupants?
Printing massive amounts of money has the fortunate effect of wiping out all of the mortgage, medical, education, auto, and credit card debt held by people like me and the rest of the working class. It also has the beneficial effect of wiping out the dollar denominated debt of the exploited countries of the global south.
I guess it's tough shit for you, but I'll be dancing in the streets when the dollar collapses.
Regarding Freenet, if I recall correctly, it's possible to configure who can manage the freenet node by IP address or subnet. It should be in text config file. So, if you put your machines on 192.168.1.0/24 and guests on 192.168.10.0/24, you can allow access from 192.168.0.0/16 but only allow management from 192.168.1.0/24.
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While Linux doesn't support SRT, there is no software support required for Seagate's hybrid drives. All of the caching is handled by the drive firmware. It appears as a normal disk to the operating system. It works great with Linux-- I have two in different machines.
The boot time isn't the point-- it's an indicator of the problem. The problem is that Grandma doesn't know how to maintain her computer. It's full of crap (see above post). That crap typically loads at boot time. After it's loaded, it sits around stealing processor cycles and memory.
My core2duo laptop with 2GB of RAM running Windows 7 works great. I'm not compiling a lot of code on it, but it works for basic computer tasks. If I give my laptop to Grandma, after one year I expect it to be painful to use for basic computer tasks. See above re: crap.
So, if we want Grandma to have a computer to use that doesn't run dog slow, we have three options:
For most users, #1 is a lost cause. They just don't get it. If you have lots of free time, fuck it, do #2. Otherwise, it's better to do #3.
TLDR For basic computer uses, "Grandma" needs a significantly more powerful computer than you.
For non-technical parents and other users, I actually like lots of cores and lots of memory-- more so than 'power users.'
Have you ever seen some people boot up their machines? It will take 5 minutes because of the sheer amount of crap installed.
It will be shit like two different anti-virus suites (the first one's subscription expired, and they installed a new one without uninstalling the old). There will be a update checker for every conceivable thing that's been installed. There's the preloader software that loads whatever crappy application it is into memory at boot time so that the application starts faster when you click on it's associated file type. Then, there are all the various helpful toolbars for Internet Explorer that "enhance your internet experience" and delivery dollars to your inbox. Of course, the user will probably go through two or more inkjet printer/scanner/copier all-in-one devices that require the manufacturer's 300 MB "printing experience suite" to enhance user experience by making pop-up windows when the ink is low and will helpfully tell you where you can order more special photo printing paper. There's the two different desktop search tools that got installed when the user downloaded the kitten screensavers pack and accompanying mouse cursors. Then, there is the sidebar app showing the weather outside and what time it is in Fiji.
That's stuff I can think of off the top of my head. I have no idea how average users manage to cruft up their machines so much, but they do. Keep in mind also that they're probably not going to upgrade hardware for a few years, but they'll likely install iTunes 32, Internet Explorer 17, and Office 2016, which will have >1 GB memory footprints.
By having lots of cores, and lots of memory, you can give them a decent user experience even on a machine that they've bogged to shit.
Umm.. 12W difference is for an IDLE system. At load the difference is clearly closer to 80-100W.
No shit, Sherlock. Look at comment subject line.
Maybe for a desktop this doesn't matter. But given the decline of desktops and consumers moving to laptops (and even more mobile devices), these results are downright TERRIBLE for AMD.
If you think desktop chips (AMD or Intel) are used in laptops, you are an idiot.
I agree about multithreaded performance being important thing moving forward.
Regarding power consumption, anandtech review puts total system power consumption for Vishera tested at 12-13W more than Ivy Bridge. Scroll to bottom of page for chart. Bar and line graphs at top of page are misleading-- they put x axis at 50W, not 0W.
If you are concerned about power consumption, find 100W lightbulb in your house. Replace with CFL. You will have greater energy saving.
I chose one of the providers listed in this article: Which VPN Providers Really Take Anonymity Seriously?. No logs.
I'm part of that "ten fold increase" in VPN subscriptions. I had been meaning to sign up for VPN for a while (to protect anonymity online and to get access to BBC iPlayer), and the Olympics were just the push I needed to finally sign up. If getting access to the Olympics on BBC is the spark that makes other people sign up for VPN, I think it's great. Pervasive use of VPN helps defeat the surveillance state.
Have you considered building a Lack Rack? You could do a small stack. Then, you don't need to build anything into your house and it's relocatable.
I have a few computers at home running a variety of operating systems, but the two I use most frequently both run Windows 7. One is my work PC. I need to run Windows on that one because there are a few applications I need for work that are Windows only. The other is my gaming machine. I play a couple of Source mods on it,and I use Windows because it's much easier than trying to run the games on Linux.
If Valve would release Steam on Linux, and make it easy and straightforward to install Source mods on Linux, I will happily switch to Linux on my gaming machine. I'd even put up with Ubuntu if that were the distro they targeted. It would save me having to use a Windows license just to do gaming.
Perhaps Steam/Source on Linux wouldn't appeal to hardcore gamers who buy the latest AAA title every couple of months, but, for me, it's excellent.
Mae'n dda nad oeddent yn defnyddio'r Gymraeg.
The Streets does a version of this in song on the album 'Hardest Way to Make an Easy Living'-- Can't Con An Honest Jon
A version of this also happens in series one or two of 'Only Fools and Horses'
[better_off_ted] What? Everyone knows that war is coming! [/better_off_ted]
It would be a couple GB of flash that is accessible to the OS as a block device. Then, let the OS use it for paging and for caching of frequently access files or blocks.
There should be a branding campaign so that consumers know that it is extra memory that will speed up their machine. Call it something like "turbo memory."
The fisheries off the coast of Somalia were destroyed by years of European countries dumping toxic waste and over fishing off the coast. What the fuck else are they supposed to do?
Support the Somali volunteer coast guard
I lived in Africa for about a year. We shared a 14.4k modem connection between about 10 people. It that stayed up about half the time. In another place I lived, we had about 30 people sharing a 1.5Mbps satellite link with 350MB/day quota.
In both cases, internet access was possible for basic things like sending emails (without attachments), text browsing, etc., but the latency was so high and bandwidth so low that it took all pleasure out of internet use.
The danger of disconnecting completely is that you'll find something for which you "need" internet and make a visit to the local coffee shop or library where they have high speed access. You can spend a lot of money on gas and coffee that way. Having internet that's just slow and painful to use helps to avoid that.
So, maybe you should invest in a 9600 baud modem and find a dial-up ISP?
Also, as a tip, make sure you have a phone book and some road maps for your area.
She should install ReactOS just to fuck with the professor.
Thanks for that link. Cool service and dirt cheap.
PBS is a private non-profit organization. WGBH (which produces Frontline) is owned by private foundation.
Where does the government come in here?
No, it's not better unless it also takes into account the mass of the vehicle. Road wear increases with the cube of vehicle mass. A 5400 lbs Hummer causes 8x as much wear on the roadway as my 2700 lbs compact car. If we're taxing by miles driven, I demand to tax by the amount of wear caused during those miles. In which case, the Hummer can pay 8x taxes per mile.
We actually have a system in place that's more fair than tax by mileage. More massive vehicles require more energy to accelerate to speed (a result of physics) and typically need more energy to maintain speed (a result of styling). Through fuel taxes, we charge the more massive vehicles at a higher rate per mile driven-- as we should.
I don't know what is the paranoia about tax by miles driven. It would be a stupid and unfair tax. Perhaps people are concerned about wholesale surveillance. Well, you shouldn't be. Your movements are already tracked just fine through your mobile phone and other implements of the surveillance state. Why bother tracking a car when you want to track the driver and occupants?
Printing massive amounts of money has the fortunate effect of wiping out all of the mortgage, medical, education, auto, and credit card debt held by people like me and the rest of the working class. It also has the beneficial effect of wiping out the dollar denominated debt of the exploited countries of the global south.
I guess it's tough shit for you, but I'll be dancing in the streets when the dollar collapses.
Any chance Obama is going to veto this? He's Mr. Change-You-Can-Believe-In, right? Waiting on the change...
The page loaded (they probably moved it off the ATV), and it looks like just an advertisement for colo of Mac Minis.
you cannot fight real bullets with lawyers not matter how many lawyers you have.
Sure you can-- just keep sending lawyers until they run out of bullets. It would be a good start!
Agreed. GP post is a great idea.
Regarding Freenet, if I recall correctly, it's possible to configure who can manage the freenet node by IP address or subnet. It should be in text config file. So, if you put your machines on 192.168.1.0/24 and guests on 192.168.10.0/24, you can allow access from 192.168.0.0/16 but only allow management from 192.168.1.0/24.
Why not just host it yourself using the open source mail server and transport of your choice?