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Low-Energy Laser Etching May Replace Fruit Labels

MikeChino writes "How many times have you bit into a piece of fruit only to find that you're also chomping on a sticker label? The small sticky labels have long been the bane of waste-conscious fruit and vegetable eaters, but that might all change thanks to new technology that uses a low-energy carbon dioxide laser beam to etch information directly onto produce. No more peeling those annoying labels! So far the technology is being used on a number of fruits and vegetables in New Zealand, Australia, and Pacific Rim countries, and it's currently going through the final stages of review by the FDA. Once the technology is approved in the US, researchers from the University of Florida and the USDA Agricultural Research Service hope that it will be used in Florida's massive grapefruit industry."

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  1. What does this do, chemically? by bcmm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What chemical change is caused in the skin to form the pattern? How deep does it go? The skin is a protective barrier, and if it's compromised by the process, this could have a negative effect on shelf-life.

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    1. Re:What does this do, chemically? by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The process must be approved by the FDA. You can be sure they will ask all those questions and some you haven't thought of.

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    2. Re:What does this do, chemically? by clone53421 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm waiting for the mandatory notice that the laser-charred fruit contains substances known in the state of California to cause cancer.

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    3. Re:What does this do, chemically? by moosesocks · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This might be anecdotal, but I used to work for a big pharma company. We (or at least all of the people I encountered there) were terrified of the FDA.

      The FDA were reputed to be extremely thorough, and generally uncorruptable (the FDA is a sprawling bureaucracy, which though inefficient, seems to prevent any widespread corruption).

      The media might not have picked up on it, but the American pharma industry is hurting pretty badly right now, as many of the expected "blockbuster drugs" from the past few years didn't make it through the FDA's thorough approval process, while many of the existing big-profit drugs are about to lose their patents (which, in the US only takes about 7-12 years from the date of first sale).

      In America, you can create Mickey Mouse, and profit from your invention for a period of time double that of the average human lifespan. However, if you cure cancer, you've only got about a decade to reap the profits.

      I'm not going to apologize for all of the pharmaceutical industry's actions. However, it's very important to view behavior in the context of the regulatory environment in which they must exist.

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  2. An answer in search for a problem? by anomnomnomymous · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "How many times have you bit into a piece of fruit only to find that you're also chomping on a sticker label?"

    Erm, never? Because I always wash my fruits (as in apples, pears) first before eating them?
    This is an answer in search of a problem: To be honest, I'd rather have a blemish-free apple, than one with carvings.

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    1. Re:An answer in search for a problem? by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why?
      TFA shows that it works on delicate fruit like tomatoes too. In terms of heal and sanitary concerns the laser is probably still better.

      1. A sticker when placed will be a nice breading gown for bacteria. Then the sticker is often pealed off after the fruit is washed.

      2. Who knows what chemicals are left behind on the sticker.

      3. When pealing off the sticker people use their fingernail. Even when they wash their hands the fingernails tend to have the most bacteria on them.

      4. Stickers get toss into the garbage. Or worse if you are eating on the run just littered.

      5. Pealing off stickers on some fruit can tare off the skin of the fruit.

      6. Stickers that fall off fruit could mean be misplaced, wrongly priced at checkout.

      I for one welcome or laser etched fruit overlords.

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    2. Re:An answer in search for a problem? by sakdoctor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Do you expect me to just take your word for that?

      I'll report back here in one year.

  3. Re:Lecture Fruit! by think_nix · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and next thing will be company xyz etching commercials , or marketing crap into it.

  4. Dude by ShooterNeo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For a technology site, most of the comments here are surprisingly anti-technology.

    A new graphics card comes out? Commentors will gripe that old school games with shitty graphics are better anyway.

    A new CPU comes out? Same thing : commentors will complain that extra CPU power is just more cycles for crummy, inefficient programming to squander with useless eye candy features.

    A laser that eliminates that annoying plastic label on fruit and the FCKING ARTICLE says that it's safe? Commentors say that THEY won't benefit because THEY always peel and wash their fruit, and they're afraid that the lasering will make fruit decay sooner (without reading the article that says the lasering does not appreciably damage the fruit's skin)

    1. Re:Dude by zippthorne · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I gotta tell ya, "beach" is funnier. The mental image of bloated slashdotters flailing their useless arms about, stuck on the border of land and sea, loudly complaining about fruit labeling improvements that have literally zero downsides is difficult to suppress.

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  5. And you think it will just be for labeling? by hyades1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Once this is in use, I don't imagine it will be long before your fruit is covered with more ads than a NASCAR racing suit. On the up-side, the opportunities for a bit of creative pranking are just about limitless.

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  6. Re:Wrong problem by xaxa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Our fruits do not need labels.

    The labels on fruit in the UK supermarkets are there so the cashier knows what you've chosen. The labels on the apples I eat say "Granny Smith 4139", the cashier types in "4139" before weighing the fruit.

    They are annoying -- especially if they leave a residue, as I don't normally have a chance to wash an apple before I eat it -- so perhaps this is an improvement, so long as it doesn't affect the taste.

  7. Re:Wrong problem by Eponymous+Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd also like to see where the fruit is from, possibly even identify the grower. There are three basic reasons:

    1. I prefer to buy stuff grown close to where I live. My grocery store will generally include the country of origin in the signage, but I really don't trust that they get that right.
    2. If there is some type of contamination problem, the CDC could more quickly track down the source and scope of the problem.
    3. I might discover that some growers produce better or worse food than others. The information could help me spend my food dollars more effectively.

    -ec

  8. Re:Lecture Fruit! by Eponymous+Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know, this is one of the things about organic fruit and vegetables that bugs me. My grocer tends to have the organic fruits and veggies pre-packaged rather than lose. I might only want 3 apples, but guess what, they only come in 6 packs. Want a few organic bananas, too bad. The organic ones have a sticky plastic strip around them so you can't just break off the amount you want.

    I'm pretty selective about what I buy and I only want to buy what I need. And I definitely don't need a bunch of extra packaging. In the end, I often end up buying non-organic food just because I end up wasting less that way.

  9. Re:Wrong problem by The_K4 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or they Just don't care and ring it up as what ever apple they know the code for. Same with things like mustard greens and kale, it usually ends up getting rung up as green or red leaf lettuce. I suspect there are some who can tell all the fruit and veggies by sight, and some who check the tag, and then some who just pick a code they know that the stuff kinda looks like.