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EMI Sues Beatles Usurper Off the Net

blackest_k sends along a Wired piece on EMI's successful suit to get Beatles music off the Net. Here is the judge's ruling (PDF). "A federal judge on Thursday ordered a Santa Cruz company to immediately quit selling Beatles and other music on its online site, setting aside a preposterous argument that it had copyrights on songs via a process called 'psycho-acoustic simulation.' A Los Angeles federal judge set aside arguments from Hank Risan, owner of BlueBeat and other companies named as defendants in the lawsuit EMI filed on Tuesday. His novel defense to allegations he was unlawfully selling the entire stereo Beatles catalog without permission was that he — and not EMI or the Beatles' Apple Corp — owns these sound recordings, because he re-recorded new versions of the songs using what he termed 'psycho-acoustic simulation.' Risan faces perhaps millions of dollars in damages under the Copyright Act. And copyright attorneys said his defense was laughable and carries no weight."

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  1. Re:I wouldn't listen to the naysayers by nomadic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The copyright lawyers are laughing at this guy's defense, but these are the same lawyers who think that file sharing is immoral and that record companies should have the right to sue people into poverty because of a few kilobytes of uploads.

    Generalize much?

  2. Worst headline EVAR by jfengel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The blame falls on the lurid headline over at Wired, which completely mischaracterizes the actual article. But it's Slashdot's fault for repeating it both in the headline here and in the summary.

    For shame.

    1. Re:Worst headline EVAR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah call it "worst evar", "lurid", and "mischaracterizing", but do not try to explain *why* it is wrong, it's much more dramatic that way.

  3. What kind of idiotic title is that anyway? by Briareos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is it just me, or is EMI not suing the Beatles (half of which aren't even going to show up in court), but really some fuckwad that sold illegal copies of their songs?

    np: Burial - Distant Lights (Various - 5 Years Of Hyperdub (Disc 2))

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    1. Re:What kind of idiotic title is that anyway? by dmbasso · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The story is tagged badtitle when in fact it should be wrongtitle, or even better toostupidtomakeagoodtitle.

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  4. Piracy by whisper_jeff · · Score: 5, Insightful

    THIS is the sort of piracy that the RIAA (and member companies) should fight against. THIS is the sort of piracy that I think any intelligent human being opposes. THIS is the sort of copyright violation that the laws were written to combat.

    1. Re:Piracy by 0racle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Shouldn't he have to face the same insane damages that file sharers face? Only a million in fines? If I shared Sgt. Pepper, I'd be looking at several times that and this guy was selling the whole catalog.

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    2. Re:Piracy by whisper_jeff · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You do realize that a debate about the length of copyright is a different discussion from enforcement of copyright, right? Some of us think that the length of copyright should be dramatically shortened (to say the least...) AND also think that copyright holders should be encouraged to protect their copyrights when someone breaks copyright for the sole purpose of turning a profit. The two are completely different discussions. You are aware of that, right?

    3. Re:Piracy by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Insightful

      but I can't imagine forcing things into the public domain for living authors.

      Why not? That's the way it originally worked.

      If we went back to the original system, if the authors want to earn more money after their copyrights expire, they would have to get up off of their asses and work some more, just like the rest of us have to. If they don't want to have to work later in life, they should put some of their current earnings into a 401k, like the rest of us have to.

  5. No, they didn't by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I actually RTFA, and Beatles music is still available in internet jukeboxes. What happened is some guy tried to twist copyright law in a foolish and illogical way, saying that resampled Beatles songs are his, and he actually registered copyrights of them. The judge PREDICTABLY and logically ruled against him. I'd have laughed him out of court.

    EMI holds the real copyrights, sued, and won. The guy posting Beatles songs was clearly in the wrong. As is the summary.

    The true evil here is that the Beatles' music should be in the public domain by now; they broke up in 1971, almost forty years ago. You should be able to reuse their art in your own art by now; that was, in fact, the whole purpose of giving Congress the power to write copyright law in the first place.

    1. Re:No, they didn't by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If falls in the PD, then no one should be allowed to profit

      That's possibly the dumbest interpretation of "public domain" I've seen here, and that's saying a lot. Here's a biscuit!

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  6. Re:Santa Cruz, California by FlyingSquidStudios · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You've obviously never been to Sedona, AZ.

  7. Re:I wouldn't listen to the naysayers by BrokenHalo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, in your expert opinion, everyone involved is wrong?

    Why not? I know the dumbing-down of the modern media urges us to think in terms of black and white concepts, but there should be room for this. EMI are obviously evil copyright trolls, and this Hank Risan is equally obviously selling copyrighted material. Shakespeare (as always) has a good line for this:

    "A plague on both your houses."

  8. Re:I wouldn't listen to the naysayers by Timothy+Brownawell · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The copyright lawyers are laughing at this guy's defense, but these are the same lawyers who think that file sharing is immoral and that record companies should have the right to sue people into poverty because of a few kilobytes of uploads.

    I wouldn't put too much weight on what they think.

    What is legal or not, and what is right or not are often completely different. These lawyers may have some rather screwy ideas about the latter, but it's their job to have a very good understanding of the former. So when the former is what's under discussion, what they think probably should carry a bit of weight.

  9. Re:Santa Cruz, California by Homburg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The crazy people in Berkeley wander around pushing shopping carts; the crazy people in Glastonbury sit in fields smoking pot. What is distinctive about Santa Cruz is its peculiarly high-functioning crazy people, like this guy, who are entirely divorced from reality, yet somehow manage to, for instance, run a record label.

  10. Re:Maybes its a good time for them to get on iTune by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Psycho-acoustic simulation is the process by which audio compression techniques remove bits of audio recordings in ways that the human brain is likely not to notice.

    But EMI don't own the particular soundwaves which comprise the Beatles' songs. Instead they own the very idea of these songs. EMI has sole and total ownership over the platonic ideals of which any particular instance of a Beatles song is merely a shadow. This ideal encompases any sound resembling the songs, any text resembling their lyrics, any album cover resembling theirs, any musical notes close enough to a Beatles tune.

    In a very real sense, EMIs ownership of this music is analogous to them owning the number 537. A platonic ideal. No matter who sings it, or performs it, or records it, or sells it, or even hums it this music belongs to EMI because they own the very idea of it. They own it now, and will probably own it in perpetuity, for the rest of eternity.

    So which is crazier; this guys argument or the concept of copyrighted music itself?

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  11. Re:Santa Cruz, California by timeOday · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Are you kidding? His pedantic argument sounds right at home here on slashdot. "What, you mean I'm not allowed to point a camera in a certain direction and push the button?" (just because it happens to be pointed at a copyright painting?) "You mean it's illegal to pluck magnetic waves from the atmosphere and visualize them?" (satellite TV piracy). Or, "My resampling algorithm provably changes every audio sample in the recording. Who's to say it's not an original work" (just because it sounds the same for all practical purposes), "I mean, there's obviously a slippery slope here. What percent of the bits do I have to change, 40%, 60%, hmmmmmm? Can't pick a reasonable percentage, can you? The judge in this case obviously doesn't 'get it' at all!"