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China Bans Physical Punishment For Net Addicts
gimmebeer writes to tell us that months after a teen was beaten to death in an Internet boot camp, China has banned the use of physical punishment to help teens kick their net addiction. "The death of 15-year-old Deng Senshan, just hours after he checked into an Internet bootcamp in the southwestern Guangxi region in early August, caused a media storm in China. Days later, another teenager, Pu Liang, was taken to hospital with water in the lungs and kidney failure after a similar attack in Sichuan Province. The government in July had already banned electroshock therapy as a treatment for Internet addiction, after media reports about a controversial psychiatrist who administered electric currents to nearly 3,000 teenagers. The latest guidelines suggest officials in Beijing do not think that those with unhealthy Internet habits should be forced offline permanently."
As the west degenerates into copyright and corporatism hell, while China slowly (but clearly) makes improvements. While you can say we're still massively better, everything is relative; to me, the direction and speed of the movement in any given direction is more important than the current position.
Now instead addicts will be treated with Chinese water torture, and their families billed for the water.
Wow, so you banned beatings for ONE class of prisoners. What a step forward China.
So, the Chinese are banning beating off to porn or something?
No, I haven' read the article yet. Why do you ask?
It's NOT me! It's the meds! I'm on 1000mg of Fukitol.
Isn't it common sense to most sane people that physical punishment is bad for most things except for perhaps hardened criminals? Especially for something as vague as "internet addiction" that might not even exist.
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
Or at least in this case you have a choice.
You get a life or you lose your life.
No. Fuck you. I speak out against this sort of torture and abuse no matter who commits it, or who it is committed against. Apparently, you think it's okay.
Progressive measures like this are the things that keep innovation down. They don't understand why you need to be on the internet so much so they decide you are sick, deamonize the "illness", and take steps to cure you. Thanks guys. We need you guys on the side line so that we can catch back up.
It's nice to see that China is slowly but surely entering the 18th century. You can do it guys!
I agree. Outsourcing is just plain wrong.
"The death of 15-year-old Jake Simpson, just hours after he checked into an Copyright bootcamp in the southwestern Californian region in early August, caused a media storm in the USA. Days later, another teenager, Paul Schmitt, was taken to hospital with water in the lungs and kidney failure after a similar attack in Seattle. The government in July had already banned electroshock therapy as a treatment for Copyright Infringers, after media reports about a controversial RIAA psychiatrist who administered electric currents to nearly 3,000 teenagers. The latest guidelines suggest officials in Washington do not think that those with unhealthy copyright habits should be forced offline permanently."
Not for Internet use!
Only for Internet pr0n!
Apparently, some people still don't understand this whole 'representative democracy' thing. Many Americans- millions- never supported and never will support torture. We didn't vote for those who did, we didn't support their policies and some of us would even like to see them do prison time for them.
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Electroshock therapy for Internet addiction? Are you sure this isn't from The Onion?
Why don't they go all the way and ban physical punishment? Is there any good reason to punish someone that way? Does it even help rehabilitate those who "require punishment"? Physically restraining someone is required to make someone submit if they are acting violent themselves, but that's different than physical punishment.
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I'll take the damned punishment if they just give me the 'net back
Table-ized A.I.
As proposed earlier: Give gaming addicts a computer, where they can start whichever game they want, however where all the games only play themselves.
That should teach them, and after about a week of staring at the screen they might just start to do other things a slight bit at a time.
...because in the eyes of the uneducated masses, that is still seen as "not real" and "just imaginary hurting". Despite modern neurology having proven, that the brain literally can't distinguish between those types of pains. (So a broken heart really actually hurts! And hurting you feelings creates real actual physical pain.)
Also, it is much harder to heal a fucked up mind, that a fucked up body. (From what is seen as "equally bad".)
But hey: It's invisible, so it can't be real. Any don't be a pussy anyway! Stop crying! He didn't beat you. It's just words. Right??
Welcome to the dark ages. You never left them.
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
Nothing in China is illegal or immoral; until caught that its. Rest assure some other form of abuse will be invented in its place until its application results in death (again.) Then another, and another. Rinse and repeat. Never underestimate the creativity of the human mind to formulate new forms of torture to be inflicted on fellow human beings, nor its ability to following letters of laws while raping the intend of the law.
He's had them cooked in pies!
After all the only way to "win" the "war" on drugs - is to start punishing those who DO drugs - not the ones selling it.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
There is a difference between not supporting torture (maybe even tolerating it, since it is "just against the bad guys") and being against torture. You only describe the further.
Also, the European understanding is that capital/corporal punishment is against the human rights. Which makes the US not necessarily shine (although not comparable to China of course). That is one major reason why Governor Schwarzenegger got huge criticism from the county where he was born (he adjusted to the US view and did not object to the death penalty).
NB: The message above might reflect my opinion right now, but not necessarily tomorrow or next year.
The real nature of these camps:
Parents take the children (not always children, at least in one case it's an adult - university student) to the camps, with force or deception, pay the camp owner money and leave. No questions asked - they don't care whether the "patients" are really "net addicted" or not. Then the victims are stuck here, beaten and drugged by the drillmasters every day. Most of them are runied forever when they leave (alive).
So it's basically a way for the parents to get rid of their problematic children, without trying to solve the real problem behind - survey indicates that most "net-addicted" children's parents have bad habits, e.g. addiction to gambling, and don't care what does the child think.
"Most Favored Nation Status", that's right, it's coming here! To wherever you are.
Wow... this makes china sound just as bad as Iran..
To hell with em.. i dunno why we trade with 'em
Noone ever heard of human rights? freedom to do what you please.
They make computers and the 'net sound like a drug thats illegal. Lolz
GO HEROIN! not half as bad for you as surfing Slashdot... ... Wait a minute here.
Fuck
They haven't ruled out punishments like sending someone to pwn kids' level 80 Rogue in PK. Imposing cash fines/property seizure type penalties.
Or (oh no) use firewalls to block access from their network to World of Warcraft, Facebook, Wikipedia, Youtube, etc, while instead forcing kids to watch the chinese equivalent to Don't copy that floppy II and similar propaganda.
Some pretty severe punishments can be non-physical in nature.
...is that physical punishments are apparently acceptable everywhere except in internet addiction camps now.
Why not find the teenagers a compatible partner and force them to date? Seems simpler than electroshock to kick the internet habit.
At start-ups and on open source projects I know it's the kiss of death for the project when key developers get girlfriends. I can only assume it's the same for MMORPGs.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
"reporting"
ie:
"...reporting physical punishment..." :-/
but U.S. also has "boot camps" for troubled youth, and children die in these camps too.
The family planning law of China also explicitly banned forced abortions, however, bureaucrats of the planning commissions in many places just ignore it, and denied the existence of such regulations to meet the quotas.
What's wrong with a kiss, boy? Hmm? Why not start her off with a nice kiss? ... You don't have to go leaping straight for the clitoris like a bull at a gate. Give her a kiss, boy.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
The following is the so-called "draft guideline" in Chinese, which was published to call for public comments:
http://www.gov.cn/gzdt/2009-11/05/content_1456838.htm
The Chinese government is doing its job trying to regulate the treatment just days after the critical incidents and this is more formal policy draft. The title would be more appropriate to say: Chinese government propose to ban... What's so wrong about it?
I know for a fact thousands of American gay youth are still being checked into similar boot camps to rid of the gayness in them. When would the US Ministry of Health take a stand on the issue instead of hiding behind the religious freedom principle?