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Microsoft Plugs "Drive-By" and 14 Other Holes
CWmike writes "Microsoft today patched 15 vulnerabilities in Windows, Windows Server, Excel, and Word, including one that will probably be exploited quickly by hackers. None affects Windows 7. Of today's 15 bugs, Microsoft tagged three 'critical' and the remaining 12 'important.' Experts agreed that users should focus on MS09-065 first and foremost. That update, which was ranked critical, affects all still-supported editions of Windows except Windows 7 and its server sibling, Windows Server 2008 R2. 'The Windows kernel vulnerability is going to take the cake,' said Andrew Storms, director of security operations at nCircle Network Security. 'The attack vector can be driven through Internet Explorer, and this is one of those instances where the user won't be notified or prompted. This is absolutely a drive-by attack scenario.' Richie Lai, the director of vulnerability research at security company Qualys, agreed. 'Anyone running IE [Internet Explorer] is at risk here, even though the flaw is not in the browser, but in the Win32k kernel mode driver.'"
I'm scared!
Their they're doing there hair.
In before Windows vs Linux vs Mac shitstorm...
What about the fourteen other fixes?
If you patch, you're safe. Too bad so many XP users don't opt-in to patching, a lot of them will be infected, but it's a good thing MS started auto-patching by default with Vista, also since Vista has a lot of anti-exploit code (DEP, ASLR, Protected Mode Sandboxing, etc.) it probably won't see very many infections, although I thought I saw on another site that Vista wasn't affected.
"...I think the Microsoft hatred is a disease." - Linus Torvalds
Anybody else think something is integrated with something else in a deeply, deeply wrong way here?
# cat
Damn, my RAM is full of llamas.
They thank someone from Google for helping them spot the vulnerability! It's in the acknowledgements:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS09-065.mspx
Summation 2
No wonder my home system was such a dog this morning. It was pulling the latest patches and updates.
Meanwhile, it's still Windows. There's only so much improvement you can make when the manufacturer insists on packing so much into the "kernel." I was always taught that the OS kernel is the one piece that provides the interface between all software and all hardware. File systems, GUIs, internet browsers and lesbian Pr0n are all just forms of software that should be clients to the ultimately optimized but minimalist kernel.
My office has been taken over by iPod people.
But while Storms speculated that Microsoft knew the EOT font flaw was a security issue -- and waited until now to patch older Windows -- Lai thought that Microsoft didn't realize until recently that it was also a security vulnerability in editions prior to Windows 7. "I think they fixed this bug as part of the code sanitization during [Windows 7's] development cycle. It was actually only publicly disclosed recently, and then they patched it in other Windows
The article is speculating what did Micrsoft know and when did it know it etc. Microsoft's standard line defending its security through obscurity policy is, "we are not providing any details because it is going to help the hackers". But what about its big customers? Almost all businesses do not care much about its small customers. So forget small timers. But Microsoft has to coddle its big Fortune500 company customers. Would they be informed, even under confidentiality agreements and non disclosure agreements, which platforms and applications are vulnerable?
How do these big companies justify being so meek and acquiescing to Microsoft? If these Fortune 500 companies chip in 100,000$ a year, they can create an Institute of Software Interoperability and go towards reducing their switching costs. Microsoft has total revenue of more than 25 billion dollars, and a significant chunk comes from these big companies. They pay off has to be enormous for these companies.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
I am used to it now, Just like whenever a new product launched, for instance Windows 7, do not hope that it will be perfect as it claimed to be the day 7 in the bible where everything is set. Anyway Windows and Microsoft are still man-made, nothing is perfect. Winson http://aabatterycharger.org/
will they patch that one too?
When does SP4 come out for XP?
I, for one, have been getting my hole plugged by Microsoft for a good twenty plus years now.
So sore.
Facebook is the new AOL
....is Internet Explorer?........aaaahh, that buggy browser that comes with windows. I stopped using it four years ago and deleted the icon.
Seriously tough, I think that when people choose to use a browser that messes with system internals above other browsers that are NOT messing with the kernel, they get what they ultimately deserve. I remember a particularly buggy period that really had me going definitely over to Firefox: whenever IE crashed, I had to reboot. With firefox, killing the program would suffice, and I had far fewer problems anyway.
"If a boss demands loyalty, give him integrity. But if he demands integrity, give him loyalty." (John Boyd, 1927-1997)
Good grief. MS offers ALL security patches to EVERYONE, including pirates, and also offers many other patches such as stability and performance updates to everyone as well.
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"There seems to be a myth that Microsoft limits security updates to genuine Windows users," wrote Microsoft's Paul Cooke, who works in Windows Client Enterprise Security. "Let me be clear: all security updates go to all users."
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From http://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-pirate-bootleg-security-patches,7666.html
"...I think the Microsoft hatred is a disease." - Linus Torvalds
Once again I am delighted that I switched to Mac. The entire Windows ecosystem is riddled with these sorts of design flaws. What more reason can anyone need to get off of Microsoft?
I gotta wonder about the line:
'Anyone running IE [Internet Explorer] is at risk here, even though the flaw is not in the browser, but in the Win32k kernel mode driver.'
Why aren't users of other browsers on the older Win platforms vulnerable? Is there some other risk or problem that is being ignored or even concealed?
Man, I can't believe I got that out without laughing...
You have the right to remain sentient. If you give up the right to remain sentient, you will be elected to public office
browser stats on a website i tend show a heartening trend:
sept09 oct09
MS IE 47 41.6 %
Firefox 27.5 33.5 %
Safari 12.5 13.3 %
No, that was me, driving my Mac Truck(tm) Lorry Load(tm) Malware Package through the gaping holes in your operating system. The patch you think you applied is just a little eye-candy to make you feel all warm, snug, and safe. It's working. too. :-)
The Future of Human Evolution: Autonomy
Anyone running IE [Internet Explorer] is at risk here,
That statement is still true, even when the rest of it is missing. ^^
Then again, what does it give us, to help those, who were chosen by natural selection, to be punished?
Wouldn't it make more sense so block all packets coming from IE users?
Use the drive-by hole, to put a trojan on those systems, whose only purpose it is, to block all outgoing traffic, except Microsoft servers and their DNS mappings, until the system is updated. If the system is updated, the trojan restores everything, and deletes itself.
I think everything else just tells nature, to create even bigger idiots.
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
And they say AI isn't ready for real-world applications yet. pfft.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
Hop in your time machine and skip ahead two stories to the Lightweight Rootkit Protection post. TFA mentions nine real-world rootkits that target "that platform" (Ubuntu 8.04) and the 2.6 kernel. I know there are a cubic gazillion reasons to wear the "your OS sucks" t-shirt but I think some of that emotion should be put into action and get more eyes on the open code to identify issues before the bad girls do and/or trash your system (KK, I'm looking at you). I have the unrealistic goal of not having a problem in the first place as compared to patching it quickly.
While supporting 100+ Xp machines for a period of about two years, I noticed that machines that were set to accept all updates typically suffered a gradual but steady drop in performance over time. My guess is registry bloat is the biggest culprit. The machines that didn't update automatically, but had service packs installed when available maintained noticeably better performance. The downside of playing russian roulette with security also showed with the non-updated machines hit by malware - rarely, but more often than the updated set - despite a good effort to keep third party security software (MacAfee, Symantec, or Kaspersky) on and updated.
Why no mention of the several dozen patches released in Snow Leopard 10.6.2? And they were only patches for Apple's latest OS. Unfortunately, those patches apparently aren't very interesting or something.
Good grief. Canonical offers ALL security patches to EVERYONE, including leechers, and also offers many other patches such as stability and performance updates to everyone as well.
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
In a Kano analysis, this functionality is Basic. If Microsoft denied it to paying customers; they would start losing them. It's just that simple.
Microsoft sucks in the fact that they take so long to discover these things. They ignore the millions of users who have been reporting these same flaws to them, and as such, are allowing more and more virus attacks to pop up. Windows is just now on version 7, whereas most Linux-driven platforms are on version 9 or higher and Mac is on 10.5. The reason: Mac and Linux devs actually listen, and it helps them to patch vulnerabilities like this quicker. Wake up and smell your userbase, Microsoft.
You can leave it on to notify you or just download them manually when MS releases them (your job to keep track like reading security news or check MS Updates every second and fourth Tuesdays of each month; don't forget emergency releases once in a while!).
Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
That FireFox has more access to the system than IE on Vista and Windows 7, because it doesn't implement protected mode. Grow up, children.
It isn't quite true to suggest people don't "opt-in to patching" on any Windows product. It is more the case the process is arcane and confusing to some users. And worse still, the system trains the rest of the users to blindly accept things that look like "official updates" when they are really malware. I've lost track on the number of times someone asked me what was going on when the WGA thing pops up. The way it is worded and framed seems to freak users out and I see why: Going for months with a legit copy and suddenly getting challenged makes people wonder if they accidentally broke or misconfiguration their system. That means many hit cancel because Microsoft gave these worried users a choice of "Do you want to take the chance breaking your system? Yes or No?"
Awesome, now this means my xp version is even more insecure then I thought,
I am still waiting until they offer free patching for pirated copies.
After what was expected to be an unusually quiet Patch Tuesday, Microsoft has released eight patches for applications with an insufficient number of security holes.
“Our market is the enterprise,” said Microsoft security marketer Jonathan Ness. “Information technology professionals know that Windows is the greatest IT job creation scheme in history. Without Patch Tuesday, there’s no reason for the experienced IT worker to spend his time hiding out in the server room watching progress bars and getting over his hangover. Also, you can’t tell people a virus ate their mail, you actually have to get it back for them.”
The updates include “critical” patches to Windows Media Player visualisations, Zune player software, that really cute dinosaur cursor and Age Of Empires II. The exploits opened by these patches allow a malicious user to take webcam pictures of your pimply butt, steal your pizza delivery and have sex with your girlfriend. The exploits have already been marketed to the Dark Security market by Microsoft Russia.
“Windows 7 won’t be vulnerable!” added Ness. “Did we mention how fantastic Windows 7 will be? I mean, is? Also, Vista was pretty good! Really! The London Stock Exchange was probably still on XP!”
Several faintly cat-piss-smelling Linux users pointed and laughed in a nerdy bray at the news and a much larger number of annoying Mac users showed off their new model iPod Nanos.
Illustration: Insulty, the Office Persistent.
http://rocknerd.co.uk
None affects Windows 7. Of today's 15 bugs, Microsoft tagged three 'critical' and the remaining 12 'important.'
Critical and important patches but none affects Windows 7.
Solution?
Simple. Offer Windows 7 as a patch option (and keep it as only an option because some machines don't have enough hardware). It's hypothetical though due to the monopoly and antitrust problems of Microsoft.
After all the patching your XP or Vista or whatever becomes more and more like Windows 7 anyways.
How many of the people who've set up their computers to be 100% working are going to upgrade their Windows? They may get a new OS with a new computer because it hasn't been set up yet, but spend money to upgrade the machine that is working? The adage if it ain't broke, don't fix it is definitely the one to live by for people who've spent many frustrating hours making their computers just right.
Because computers are so affordable, it's not a big deal to get a new computer and a new Windows together, but letting Windows 7 be a free patch option to people with older systems shouldn't hurt Microsoft's bottom line since people aren't that likely to upgrade.
Know your pads. One time pad: good for cryptography. Two timing pad: where to take your mistress.
"The only thing I can think of that runs in kernel mode in Windows and not in Linux is the graphics system -- which is why the screen flickers and changes resolutions slower in Linux and Windows tends to run full screen games and video better with DirectX, but it also rarely brings the system down... not that a system you can't get desired display output from is useful entirely." - by Bacon Bits (926911) on Wednesday November 11, @09:20AM (#30059730)
Windows VISTA, Windows Server 2008, & Windows 7's graphic subsystem is a PnP (plug & play) design & runs off of Direct X when using AERO, in USERMODE (RPL3/Ring 3), but as "Direct as Possible", due to DirectX 10-11 driving it, fast.
This design therefore, can install & USE driver updates, immediately, & without a reboot because of it, & crashing the display engine doesn't "take down the whole show" anymore (not that it really EVER did, I always had good luck that way personally).
Funniest part is, they're returning to the original NT 3.x-3.51 design, running the graphical subsystem in usermode!
Windows VISTA/Server 2008/Windows7 now use-have the display engine/ GUI subsystem there in usermode again...
(GDI & to an extent, Win32, subsystems IN KERNELMODE are where pre NT 4.x system took care of it there in KERNEL MODE on the first 2-3 versions (3.1, 3.5, & 3.51) in kernel/OS core mode/RPL 0/Ring 0, as they did in USERMODE later NT 4.x - 2000/XP/Server 2003 which technically is more "unstable" or rather destabilizing, but the MS DDK templates & WHQL lab testing saw to that & we DO have stability in those GDI+Win32 subsystems also for graphic display)
APK
P.S.=> Some "specifics/FYI" for ya... apk
Per my subject-line above, & the findings of ROOTKIT.COM in regards to Windows VISTA/Server 2008/Windows 7's NDIS6 firewall(s) & also in regards to some things done in HOSTS files after 12/09/2008 that Microsoft has done that made a HOSTS file (for those that use them for BOTH added speed & added security online, & there are many 1,000's of us mind you, such as the folks that use SpyBot "Search & Destroy" + mvps.org's members, as just a SMALL FRACTION of "that faction"):
Per -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1429510&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=29967174
That URL above's where I addressed a member here named Foredecker, for the 3rd time now (along with other folks here who claimed to be MS employees), since he claims to be a development mgr. @ Microsoft:
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THIS IS ADDRESSED TO ANY PERSONNEL FROM MICROSOFT:
1.) TELL US WHY ROOTKIT.COM SAID THIS BELOW (who published code that shows how to EASILY "unhook" the new NDIS6 firewall in VISTA, Windows Server 2008, & Windows 7 no less) & why they said this:
http://www.rootkit.com/newsread.php?newsid=952
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PERTINENT EXCERPT/QUOTE:
"BTW, the firewalls based on NDIS v6, which was introduced in Windows Vista, are much easier to unhook and bypass."
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(AND, more importantly, since you claim to be a senior development mgr. @ Microsoft, what you plan to do about it (or, if you plan to @ least investigate their claims @ least - because this is only to POINT THIS OUT TO YOU PEOPLE @ MS, & up to you to @ least "check it out", as to the veracity of it... thanks!))
I am pointing this out to you, based on their claims @ ROOTKIT.COM and for the fact the seemingly provide actual exploit code for "unhooking" (making useless) the firewall(s) designed based from NDIS6... please, look into it, or @ least give us an idea of your intent in regards to this. Thanks.
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2.) Give us a SOLID answer to why 0 was removed in HOSTS then (it was in VISTA prior to 12/09/2008 MS "Patch Tuesday" though, so how come it is gone now? You folks added it into Windows 2000, but, it was NOT in Win2k onwards (2000SP#?/XP/Server 2003/ & yes, VISTA, until 12/09/2008)), until MS put 0 as a legit blocking IP address into Windows 2000 in a service pack because prior to that SP for Windows 2000, the BEST IT COULD DO/USE, was 0.0.0.0, because in HOSTS files:
a. 127.0.0.1 or even 0.0.0.0 HOSTS files only, vs. 0 blocking "IP" based ones, only makes for larger slower HOSTS file loads into memory (be that the local DNS client, or diskcache even) & using hosts thus, speeds you up online as well as a bonus for speed (see Mr. Oliver Day below as well as myself on THIS note) , not only yielding one more safety online (by blocking adbanners which have been shown to harbor malware, or isn't this indicative of that -> Anti-malvertising.com? and in doing so, you also gain speed by not downloading or calling out to said adbanner servers also) and, HOSTS also provide another option for more speed, by allowing a user to optionally also speed ones' self up online as well, by allowing one to hardcode in one's favorites to avoid potentially compromised DNS servers (ala Dan Kaminsky proof thereof!) or, even allows a user to avoid being logged on a DNS request log theoretically @ least I would think
(AND, sure: An ISP/BSP can check where you went, & so can anyone because of the top-level domain that maintains the reverse DNS request lookup tables, & a ping or traceroute does the rest of the job, but this makes it harder to do by "the infamous they" is all, in hardcodes of favs & avoiding DNS server request logs potentially).
AND
b. HOSTS also make you SAFER online, not as much CPU + o
Per my subject-line above, & the findings of ROOTKIT.COM in regards to Windows VISTA/Server 2008/Windows 7's NDIS6 firewall(s) & also in regards to some things done in HOSTS files after 12/09/2008 that Microsoft has done that made a HOSTS file (for those that use them for BOTH added speed & added security online, & there are many 1,000's of us mind you, such as the folks that use SpyBot "Search & Destroy" + mvps.org's members, as just a SMALL FRACTION of "that faction"):
Per -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1429510&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=29967174
That URL above's where I addressed a member here named Foredecker, for the 3rd time now (along with other folks here who claimed to be MS employees), since he claims to be a development mgr. @ Microsoft:
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THIS IS ADDRESSED TO ANY PERSONNEL FROM MICROSOFT:
1.) TELL US WHY ROOTKIT.COM SAID THIS BELOW (who published code that shows how to EASILY "unhook" the new NDIS6 firewall in VISTA, Windows Server 2008, & Windows 7 no less) & why they said this:
http://www.rootkit.com/newsread.php?newsid=952
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PERTINENT EXCERPT/QUOTE:
"BTW, the firewalls based on NDIS v6, which was introduced in Windows Vista, are much easier to unhook and bypass."
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(AND, more importantly, since you claim to be a senior development mgr. @ Microsoft, what you plan to do about it (or, if you plan to @ least investigate their claims @ least - because this is only to POINT THIS OUT TO YOU PEOPLE @ MS, & up to you to @ least "check it out", as to the veracity of it... thanks!))
I am pointing this out to you, based on their claims @ ROOTKIT.COM and for the fact the seemingly provide actual exploit code for "unhooking" (making useless) the firewall(s) designed based from NDIS6... please, look into it, or @ least give us an idea of your intent in regards to this. Thanks.
&
2.) Give us a SOLID answer to why 0 was removed in HOSTS then (it was in VISTA prior to 12/09/2008 MS "Patch Tuesday" though, so how come it is gone now? You folks added it into Windows 2000, but, it was NOT in Win2k onwards (2000SP#?/XP/Server 2003/ & yes, VISTA, until 12/09/2008)), until MS put 0 as a legit blocking IP address into Windows 2000 in a service pack because prior to that SP for Windows 2000, the BEST IT COULD DO/USE, was 0.0.0.0, because in HOSTS files:
a. 127.0.0.1 or even 0.0.0.0 HOSTS files only, vs. 0 blocking "IP" based ones, only makes for larger slower HOSTS file loads into memory (be that the local DNS client, or diskcache even) & using hosts thus, speeds you up online as well as a bonus for speed (see Mr. Oliver Day below as well as myself on THIS note) , not only yielding one more safety online (by blocking adbanners which have been shown to harbor malware, or isn't this indicative of that -> Anti-malvertising.com? and in doing so, you also gain speed by not downloading or calling out to said adbanner servers also) and, HOSTS also provide another option for more speed, by allowing a user to optionally also speed ones' self up online as well, by allowing one to hardcode in one's favorites to avoid potentially compromised DNS servers (ala Dan Kaminsky proof thereof!) or, even allows a user to avoid being logged on a DNS request log theoretically @ least I would think
(AND, sure: An ISP/BSP can check where you went, & so can anyone because of the top-level domain that maintains the reverse DNS request lookup tables, & a ping or traceroute does the rest of the job, but this makes it harder to do by "the infamous they" is all, in hardcodes of favs & avoiding DNS server request logs potentially).
AND
b. HOSTS also make you SAFER online, not as much CPU + o
Why do I get the feeling ForeDecker (an MS mgt. person here, whom I addressed with these points 3-4 times now & he just "evades them") OR, that I am just going to be "adhominem" attacked, rather than my points here being confronted &/or disproved instead?
Probably because the way you've written this, you've made it bloody annoying to read, and nobody can be bothered.
which is totally what she said
If it is too much for your dull brain to absorb and reading it is difficult, then don't read it at all.
Hahahahahahaaa... yeah, good one. No, it just has incredibly fucking annoying overuse of bold font, and why put every sentence in its own double spaced paragraph? Annoying. Not to mention completely offtopic. You need to find a more appropriate context for your little crusade. I have better things to do with my time than go through a mess like that.
And I didn't actually read it, just checked over to see if it was one of those randomly generated posts (it *really* looks like one from the offset due to the strange formatting), and the other bit caught my eye and amused me. If you or whoever wrote this post can't see why people simply don't want to read this shit, you have major problems.
which is totally what she said
Have you considered decaf? Honestly, you should. Your post is just too full of negativity. I'm going to have to tell your mama to quit putting espresso into your baby bottle. I told that bitch to cut that shit out, but she just does it again and again (sort of like how I always see her on the street corner lol) and we are stuck listening to your raging tirades. You might as well know this also: I couldn't read your post. I am only replying to notify you that all that raging spittle flying out of your mouth made your post impossible to read. It'd be nice if you'd wipe the froth and foam off your mouth as you rant and rave here. Please, do consider it. After all, it's not polite or safe in terms of health matters, to have your spittle flying all over the place onto the rest of us reading with your having your little fit in an attempt to order others about (that may work with your mama boy, but it won't here. Besides, I feel sorry for her too, seeing as she's out there on the corner now as we speak, and that she has to deal with the likes of you to top that off). As to your not reading what was written, I don't believe that much, because you quoted from deep within the passage you are having a fit about here. It also appears that the only thing you have that is better to do, is to try to troll others. Give up. You're not good at it. In the end I suppose help for you and your kind exists in sticking to your ADD or ADHD and Dyslexia prescribed treatments as well as cutting back on your caffeine intake. I would also recommend remedial reading courses in your case, or "hooked on phonics" (because "reading is fundamental". Yes, it is, and even for dull witted doltish trolls like you that try to tell others how to write and yet who haven't mastered 1st grade reading levels themselves, and certainly do not possess a PHD in English to their name, just to give them even a slight amount of credibility, in regards to their critique of the writings of others). Lastly, in closing here - Please, don't worry: We all realize you are just some script kiddie wanna be hacker cracker type or otherwise disgruntled freak that doesn't want others to realize the speed and security benefits possible from security hardening a PC. So now that this has all been said, go rattle your playpen or crib rails and cry for your mama (that is, if she is not too busy with her job and doing the "horizontal mombo" out there on the street corner with a new paying customer, like usual). She may respond to your pitiful attempts at manipulating others and dispensing orders to others online but others will not. The sooner your realize that, the better off you will be and so will the rest of us stuck wiping your spittle off our faces as we are subjected to your little foaming at the mouth tirades. Now go take your meds and sit in the corner drooling already. We like you better that way. We find it amusing to watch you after you've had your "treatments".
"People don't need a PHD to know if someone is not right in the head." - by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @08:02PM (#30110728) Homepage
Sure, just like I know you are not "right in the head" per this statement from you, quoted verbatim next:
" I myself needed to go on pills a few years ago for depression, and I had an episode of OCD, I know it's not pleasant to have mental issues. But anyway there's probably no point even trying to be friendly or reasonable with you, you just don't seem to have the capacity for either of those things from what I've seen so far." by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:33PM (#30107250) Homepage Journal
Nuff said on THAT account...
"But yet again you just ignore when you are wrong and go on with some rant about something else. " - by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @08:02PM (#30110728) Homepage
I'm not the one avoiding the question I asked you of "Do you have a PHD in English or Psychiatry, and do you have a license to practice either one"? (But, you certainly are, lol, gee... "wonder why" (not)).
"Plus, I did study psychology for a couple of years anyway, and have read a lot into mental illness." - by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @08:02PM (#30110728) Homepage
AND, obviously, per my last reply & YOUR OWN WORDS? You are a nutcase of somekind... not my fault, you said it, after all!
"Who the fuck cares if they have a PHD?" - by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @08:02PM (#30110728) Homepage
My my: Such a profane reaction: "strike a chored", now, did I? Apparently so. Your calling others crazy, or trying to tell others how to write, minus a PHD in either psychiatry or english on YOUR part, just doesn't tend to lend to your ability to critique others on any of those accounts, period. You're nobody/nothing, & it shows.
"Once again you are acting like a paranoid weirdo" - by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @08:02PM (#30110728) Homepage
Once more, asking this question: DO YOU POSSESS A PHD IN PSYCHIATRY or A LICENSE TO PRACTICE IT, AND HAVE YOU PERFORMED A FORMAL PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAMINATION OF MYSELF TO DISPENSE SUCH A "PROGNOSIS" THAT IS LIBELLOUS & DIRECTED MY WAY? No, you have not, "Dr. Quack" (the sidewalk wannabe surgeon, lol).
I'm also not the person who had to undergo psychiatric treatment, as you admitted you have had to... you're WEAK. If you needed that, especially weak, & where it matters: INSIDE YOUR OWN SKULL!
(My being able to turn your silly trolling points against you with ease, as others have here in reply to you, is also indicative of the fact you are just plain not very intelligent as well)
"after posting a bunch of shit in reply to a *joke* I made and trying to pretend like it's being on topic and not just flamebait/trolling?" - by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @08:02PM (#30110728) Homepage
Well, the joke is on YOU now (especially since you are not qualified to judge anyone's writing skills (this is a forums only for Pete's sake, not a grade for a term paper, english class, or a legal document - get over that much first of all) and for the fact you lack a PHD or license to practice psychiatry in order to make assessements of others' mental state)... give up, you're not qualified to troll others, on those grounds...
(By the by: I don't interpret your puny trolling of myself as a joke. Get that thru your head. Thanks.)
"Start your own thread next time please, this is the second time you've pulled this offtopic bullshit in reply to one of my comments." - by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @08:02PM (#30110728) Homepage
Like was said to you above earlier here by others:
Stop barking orders @ everyone (& m
Per my subject-line above:
" I myself needed to go on pills a few years ago for depression, and I had an episode of OCD, I know it's not pleasant to have mental issues. But anyway there's probably no point even trying to be friendly or reasonable with you, you just don't seem to have the capacity for either of those things from what I've seen so far." by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:33PM (#30107250) Homepage Journal
LOOK AT THIS REACTION, lol:
"First off, fuck you. " by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:33PM (#30107250) Homepage Journal
No, no thanks (not interested or homosexual here, so... "find yourself another dish 'fella' - I'm NOT ON THE MENU" so to speak)
" I was on pills for depression after my dad died." by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:33PM (#30107250) Homepage Journal
Lots of people have people they love, die. Most of us a STRONG ENOUGH to get over it & move on, realizing that is what that person would have wanted for you ANYHOW...
(You're a "day tripper" ('takin' the easy way out'))
" I am no longer on them." by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:33PM (#30107250) Homepage Journal
You ought to be.
" Depression is very different to being insane." by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:33PM (#30107250) Homepage Journal
Sure, sure... & NORMAL PEOPLE take "happy pills", right? WRONG.
" Posting crazy drivel online and expecting people to not get pissed off is insane." by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:33PM (#30107250) Homepage Journal
Sure sure... & taking "happy pills" for your disturbed brain, as you have admittedly here, is "sane", right?
" Attacking everyone and threatening legal action for comments on websites is insane." by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:33PM (#30107250) Homepage Journal
When they attack me first, libel or threaten me or mine, FIRST? You bet your ass I will do it, everytime... funny how it shuts them up too & they then leave me be (usually, unless they are a disturbed OCD internet stalker psycho as "some people are" (you, obviously)).
" You can't help arguing and you actually believe you have "won" just because you have insulted someone and twisting their words or flat out lying." by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:33PM (#30107250) Homepage Journal
Pill junkie: Did you or did you not admit to taking pills because you're mentally TOO WEAK to get over the same things the rest of us go thru, WITHOUT PILLS?
(It's no lie that I quoted you saying that much, so... get over it: You got PLAYED (you played, yourself))
" It is weird. I can't help replying because you're just such a joke lol :) Have you seen the thread where that guy has a transcript of your email conversation about your spyware? *sigh* You just don't get it.." by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:33PM (#30107250) Homepage Journal
No, instead I read this about myself, & in respected trade rags in this field + books, since 1996/1997 up to 2002 (have YOU done the same, in equal amounts, & as many times since 1996 I wonder):
"My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row).
You are so weird o_0
which is totally what she said
"You are so weird o_0" - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @04:13AM (#30113218) Homepage
This famous quote describes YOU, perfectly:
"....And thus I clothe my naked villany with odd ends stolen from holy writ and seem a saint when most I play the devil." - Shakespeare
(In other words: WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO FOOL? You came in here, giving me guff, & now expect me to "take pity on you"? FORGET IT!)
APK
P.S.=> Vi veri universum vivus vici ... apk
"I did not give you guff, you copy and pasted a massive essay to a joke I made" - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @05:48AM (#30113600) Homepage
Again, as I stated here once before already: I DID NOT INTERPRET YOUR BLATANT ADHOMINEM OFF TOPIC ATTACK AS A JOKE (and, neither did other repliers)... so, whom are you trying to fool here? Yourself?? At best, that is the result, just like your taking "crazy pills" (admittedly, on YOUR part):
"I myself needed to go on pills a few years ago for depression, and I had an episode of OCD, I know it's not pleasant to have mental issues." by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:33PM (#30107250) Homepage Journal
Simply because you don't DEAL IN REALITY (& would rather have your "escape" & then you justify it, lol)... give us a break!
Once more, THIS:
"....And thus I clothe my naked villany with odd ends stolen from holy writ and seem a saint when most I play the devil." - Shakespeare
Applies to you, and those LIKE YOU, perfectly... &, you end up exposing yourself in the same stroke, in the doing of it.
APK
P.S.=> "Vi veri universum vivus vici", & here? Here is the FUNNIEST PART OF ALL:
somersault here complaints on English & my writing - Funny eh, that NOW, He sure seems to understand it now though, doesn't he, despite his saying he could not? LMAO... too easy! Not only is this fool somersault VERY transparent as a troll, & EASY to "pick apart" logically in debate but he's obviously "not too bright", either... apk
Dude, the joke was not the so called "attack" on yourself. The joke was about Windows 7, and you posted a bunch of spam in reply to it.
Talking of dealing in reality, you are doing this kind of thing on many forums across the internet, and I see lots of other people complaining about it. What is more real - *your* version of reality, or the one that everyone else has? Like I said, why don't you just put up your massive posts on a blog, and then link to that in your signature or something? It would help to stop people like me getting annoyed at you.
Yes, myself and others (for example on The Register) justifiably complain about your overuse of bold and caps.
Do you even know what troll means? You keep saying it is easy to "pick me apart easily" and such, I'm not sure why I'm even trying to reason with you since you don't seem to even understand the very words that you are using.. you keep repeating the same things over and over, as if they've been generated automatically or you're just copy and pasting everything.. how many of these stupid arguments do you have going on at this one point in time? Did you think that it might be you who has a problem, rather than everyone else?
which is totally what she said
http://www.thorschrock.com/2008/05/19/how-to-respond-when-people-threaten-to-sue-you-on-the-web/
Read that page. Pretend that the APK posts are by someone else. Now ask yourself if his actions look reasonable or sane.
This Thor guy is being perfectly reasonable. He doesn't cave in to your empty threats, and he is trying to be nice about getting the spyware status of your software revoked. Then for no apparent reason you start insulting his character. How do you think acting like a dick is going to make him want to help you? Perhaps you should learn a little patience, and try to treat people as if they aren't all out to get you.
You acted in exactly the same way to me here, in comments I've seen on The Register and in other forums. It is no way to behave if you want people to take you seriously.
which is totally what she said
When everyone else removed an app I wrote that is not a virus, but has been submitted to Computer Associates as such (by Thor Schrock no less)?
I will complain.
AND, in fact? They list my app with "ZERO THREAT LEVELS", now @ least... that's because I took their 21 point test for removal, and my program did not VIOLATE A SINGLE CONSTRAINT to classify it as such either, not a SINGLE ONE OF THEIR CLASSIFYING ELEMENTS appiles to my application (which is like a gun, & guns don't kill people: OTHER PEOPLE DO).
NOW - What folks load into my application, I cannot help, & the app by itself does nothing more than launch another app, invisibly - the same has happened to folks like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (ask him, write him yourself), & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft as well. We cannot help it if malware makers misuse our apps in their machinations is all this is about.
I don't go for being libelled is all.
(Especially by incompetent "fake it till you make it" types, like Thor SCHMUCK. He doesn't list PING, yet it can (or could) issue a "PING OF DEATH"... he doesn't list SpyBot "Search & Destroy", yet that violates the constraint of HOSTS files alteration (per Computer Associates criteria lists I took & my app doesn't even violate 1 of the 21 questions, mind you again, either)).
APK
P.S.=>
"BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAaaa.. oh man, you really are insane xD that is so hilarious that you complain about "ad hominem" attacks, and then when you just ignore everything I say and then quote someone else's insult, you think you are master of the universe. You really do have mental issues dude." - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @06:04AM (#30113664) Homepage
Again, as I stated here once before already: I DID NOT INTERPRET YOUR BLATANT ADHOMINEM OFF TOPIC ATTACK AS A JOKE (and, neither did other repliers)... so, whom are you trying to fool here, especially with replies like the one I just quoted from you? Yourself??
At best, that is the result, just like your taking "crazy pills" (admittedly, on YOUR part):
"I myself needed to go on pills a few years ago for depression, and I had an episode of OCD, I know it's not pleasant to have mental issues." by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:33PM (#30107250) Homepage Journal
Simply because you don't DEAL IN REALITY (& would rather have your "escape" & then you justify it, lol)... give us a break!
Once more, THIS:
"....And thus I clothe my naked villany with odd ends stolen from holy writ and seem a saint when most I play the devil." - Shakespeare
Applies to you, and those LIKE YOU, perfectly... &, you end up exposing yourself in the same stroke, in the doing of it.
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"Oh, btw I just looked up the meaning of your latin quote.. "By the power of truth I have conquered the universe" - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @06:04AM (#30113664) Homepage
Yup, another "GOOGLE KNOWS" (but, you surely don't & this proves you are nothing more than a "I CAN GOOGLE IT" addict): The literal translation is this ->
"By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe"
(Note the "vivas" part? That the part your GOOGLING missed in translation)
Yes, in somersault? We have yet another "wannabe" trying to play "smart" with me, & "GOOGLING IT" because he lacks an educated background & then? LOL, he still screws up massively... lmao!
Yes - how typical... especially considering he calls others "crazy" & yet, he is the one who had "mental problems" via his own admission thereof quoted above, no less!
(ALL, minus his PHD in psychiatry (& english too) too, but then, he is the "self proclaimed expert" on psychoanalysis, who dispenses his "prognosis" without a formal examination or a license to practice as well... libel, anyone? That's exactly what it is
Why do you keep copy and pasting stuff you have already said?
My point here was not whether or not you write spyware, it was simply me taking issue with the *way* you go about things. You don't seem to have any respect for people.
I have said a couple of times that my comments to you have not been jokes. I have been quite serious the whole time. The joke was my original post about Windows vulnerabilities, which you then just pasted some offtopic spam in reply. Again, no respect. You could have at least wrote a relevant introduction.
which is totally what she said
He does so because you are exposing yourself in making accusations that prove untrue or get easily disproven. He does so because you are a troll that said he could not read the guy's words but you certainly reply to his points very well despite your complaints of his posts being unreadable and the like. He exposes you by your own words of admittance that you are a former psychiatric case, and yet you call others names rampantly here, and that you call them crazy without a doctorate to your credit in the sciences of psychiatry, and the same in english. I have beenr reading this exchange and have received a great deal of amusement from watching you trip over yourself constantly here somersault. No small wonder you call yourself that. You are flipped out mentally by your own admission, and you keep tripping yourself up ending up in somersaults here trying to bury what you yourself have messed up on like the translation of the latin phrases used and also trying to put the software programmer you are talking to down and he turns it around with evidences you can check yourself. You lose badly somersault and you only defeated yourself and this is my opinion of you being a troll here and nothing more.
Dude, stop pretending to be other people, it's sad. You claimed before that it was other people that were posting, however in both of those posts you mentioned "not having PHDs in english or psychiatry", which is something you do all the time as APK. You even did it again in this post. I was not a "psychiatric case", I got anti-depressants from my general practitioner.
I am not the one tripping over and contradicting myself. Remember when you said that people with slashdot accounts are "easily tracked fools"? Then when I pointed out that you are easily tracked, you said that it is because you are not afraid to hide. Applying one standard to everyone else and claiming that it's noble in your own case, is stupid. Pretending to be other people is downright pathetic. Do you get that nobody else in the whole fucking world cares if people have PHDs or missed out two words in a latin translation? Probably not, which is why you suck so bad at faking replies from other people (which I also saw you do in one of the posts you linked to earlier).
Oh, and in searching for more funny posts by yourself I noticed that you posted the same comment TEN times on the MSDN website, each time with a slightly different message at the bottom. You are a total and utter spammer. You still have provided no justification for posting spam in reply to my initial joke on this thread. Like I said, get a fucking blog and link to that instead of posting this shit in full on multiple forums all over the place. People will hate you a lot less. I can't believe I'm still trying to be polite to you, you're such a wimpy little asshole, even pretending to be virtual friends to back yourself up -.-
which is totally what she said
" PS => ", as you say.
you are a troll that said he could not read the guy's words
No, I said I found his style annoying, and I COULD NOT BE BOTHERED reading them, there is a big difference between "cannot", and "do not want to".
but you certainly reply to his points very well
Thanks - and I did so without a PHD in English - who would have thought it possible? ;)
which is totally what she said
"Why do you keep copy and pasting stuff you have already said?" - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @06:59AM (#30113924) Homepage
A few reasons:
#1.) To illustrate that you have DEFINITE MENTAL ISSUES, admitted ones from yourself no less, here:
"I myself needed to go on pills a few years ago for depression, and I had an episode of OCD, I know it's not pleasant to have mental issues." by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:33PM (#30107250) Homepage Journal
Right there? You ADMIT to having "mental issues"... Issues like "OCD" (& that you had to take pills & undergo whatever else to get over it (whereas myself having the same exact thing as you did happen, except with a grandfather & grandmother, I got over it MYSELF, because I know that my grandparents wouldn't have wanted me to "completely freak out" over a natural part of life occuring, in death)).
#2.) The second being that you avoid answering questions, & you said you cannot read my posts... funny part is, YOU CLEARLY CAN READ MY POSTS, per your replies.
#3.) Third: You claim I avoid you points... Now, that's the OLDEST "TROLL TRICK" IN THE WORLD!
Can you answer me how I could avoid your points, when I quote what you state exactly, point by point, as I am now... & reply to each point you make. So how could I avoid your points?
(Thanks for the answers, vs. your blatantly false accusations (THAT is no mere joke to me so you know)
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"My point here was not whether or not you write spyware, it was simply me taking issue with the *way* you go about things. You don't seem to have any respect for people." - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @06:59AM (#30113924) Homepage
B.S. - you'll try to pull ANY TRICK YOU CAN to try to make me "look bad", & that is EXACTLY what that was... & when I came up with EXACTLY what happened? You seem to "back off" @ that point...
("funny that", eh (not)).
AND, when it was you coming in here offtopic & busting on how I write? Well - then you tried to say "it was a joke" well... the joke is NOW ON YOU, because you are not "right in the head" via your own admission of having undergone mental therapy.
(Who do you think you are fooling? Others are replying telling you off right in here as well, & you didn't fool them either, Mr. Troll - you are also apparently delusional ontop of being OCD ridden)
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"I have said a couple of times that my comments to you have not been jokes. I have been quite serious the whole time" - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @06:59AM (#30113924) Homepage
Oh, really? Didn't you say THIS, verbatim:
"you copy and pasted a massive essay to a joke I made." - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @04:12AM (#30113210) Homepage Journal
Did you, or did you not, say that it was a "joke" to you?
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"The joke was my original post about Windows vulnerabilities, which you then just pasted some offtopic spam in reply. Again, no respect. You could have at least wrote a relevant introduction." - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @06:59AM (#30113924) Homepage
You had best learn to read - I posted EXACT material on Windows being shown VULNERABLE by ROOTKIT.COM (inclusive of code involved to take advantage of it) see here for that, right in point #1 from myself @ the top of this thread where I posted first:
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1438984&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=30078554
Again: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE FOOLING?
I was ON TOPIC, but you, with your "English writing style c
Ever heard of paragraphs somersault?
"PS - ever heard of 'paragraphs'? You practice the non-existend brand of them badly. Do you enjoy repeating everything people say? I never did understand how people find trolling so amusing.." - by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:44AM (#30104418) Homepage Journal
Sure you have, you busted on others' replies here and yet? YOU DON'T USE CORRECT FORMATTING OR GRAMMAR YOURSELF.
APK
P.S.=> More typical "trollery" & b.s. on the part of 'somersault' the troll, caught red handed in the act himself (& what he bitched @ others about here in this exchange on, no less)... unbelievable! This guy is so unintelligent, he is unbelievably TOO EASY to get the better of, and with his own words & contradictions... apk
Ever heard of paragraphs somersault?
"PS - ever heard of 'paragraphs'? You practice the non-existend brand of them badly. Do you enjoy repeating everything people say? I never did understand how people find trolling so amusing.." - by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:44AM (#30104418) Homepage Journal
Sure you have, you busted on others' replies here and yet? YOU DON'T USE CORRECT SPELLING or GRAMMAR, YOURSELF.
And, you had the nerve to say THIS?
"Again, all your bullshit applies moreso to yourself than me" - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @05:51AM (#30113616) Homepage
Give up already troll: You're "too, Too, TOO EASY" to catch in your own b.s., everytime...
APK
P.S.=> More typical "trollery" & b.s. on the part of 'somersault' the troll, caught red handed in the act himself (& what he bitched @ others about here in this exchange on, no less)... unbelievable! This guy is so unintelligent, he is unbelievably TOO EASY to get the better of, and with his own words & contradictions... apk
Ever heard of paragraphs somersault?
"PS - ever heard of 'paragraphs'? You practice the non-existend brand of them badly. Do you enjoy repeating everything people say? I never did understand how people find trolling so amusing.." - by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:44AM (#30104418) Homepage Journal
Sure you have, you busted on others' replies here and yet? YOU DON'T USE CORRECT SPELLING or GRAMMAR, YOURSELF.
And, you had the nerve to say THIS?
"Again, all your bullshit applies moreso to yourself than me" - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @05:51AM (#30113616) Homepage
Give up already troll: You're "too, Too, TOO EASY" to catch in your own b.s., everytime!
APK
P.S.=> More typical "trollery" & b.s. on the part of 'somersault' the troll, caught red handed in the act himself (& what he bitched @ others about here in this exchange on, no less)... unbelievable! This guy is so unintelligent, he is unbelievably TOO EASY to get the better of, and with his own words & contradictions... apk
"Umm.. and can you prove that those posts weren't you?" - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @07:32AM (#30114130) Homepage
Can you prove they weren't YOU?
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"hey're all AC, the first two could be more of what I presume are your cut and paste insults that other people have used against you, and the third one especially is in your style "prove that you have a PHD, blah blah"." - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @07:32AM (#30114130) Homepage
So they're AC, maybe the people posting don't want to be hounded by a trolling psycho like you!
AND??
So, how do you know what my "style" is anyhow (unless you've been 'tracking me', like some psycho online stalker might... & the psycho part we have about you already, per your own words below)
"You often ignore or twist what I actually says" - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @07:32AM (#30114130) Homepage
First of all: IT IS SAID, not "says"... and you had the nerve to tell others to use paragraphs, and you can't even form a phrase correctly?? Please...
(ALSO - I quote the points you make so... how can I "avoid them", when I quote & reply to each of your points?)
APK
P.S.=> After all, no one can be sure what a nutjob (like you, per your own words below) might do (per this evidence of that much from your own mouth) whether you are these AC's posting for Pete's sake, because this is YOU, from your own mouth no less:
"I myself needed to go on pills a few years ago for depression, and I had an episode of OCD, I know it's not pleasant to have mental issues." by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:33PM (#30107250) Homepage Journal
Nuff said... apk
You don't know shit and You don't even know how to troll properly.
An example of that is how you came in here telling the ac apk how to write, and later, you told others who told you off, to use paragraphs.
Then, several times you were found not using them yourself.
Pot calling the kettle black on your part, as was said of you here already troll.
I think you are an idiot troll caught in the act in his own contradictions and it also is a known fact you are a nut case with you admitting to having to be on pills in order to try to function like a normal person would. Go away lunatic and leave us normal people be.
Ever heard of paragraphs somersault....?
"PS - ever heard of 'paragraphs'? You practice the non-existend brand of them badly. Do you enjoy repeating everything people say? I never did understand how people find trolling so amusing.." - by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:44AM (#30104418) Homepage Journal
Sure you have, you busted on others' replies here and yet? YOU DON'T USE CORRECT SPELLING or GRAMMAR, YOURSELF.
And, you had the nerve to say THIS?
"Again, all your bullshit applies moreso to yourself than me" - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @05:51AM (#30113616) Homepage
Give up already troll: You're "too, Too, TOO EASY" to catch in your own b.s., everytime...
APK
P.S.=> More typical "trollery" & b.s. on the part of 'somersault' the troll, caught red handed in the act himself (& what he bitched @ others about here in this exchange on, no less)... unbelievable! This guy is so unintelligent, he is unbelievably TOO EASY to get the better of, and with his own words & contradictions... apk
Ever heard of paragraphs somersault??
"PS - ever heard of 'paragraphs'? You practice the non-existend brand of them badly. Do you enjoy repeating everything people say? I never did understand how people find trolling so amusing.." - by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:44AM (#30104418) Homepage Journal
Sure you have, you busted on others' replies here and yet? YOU DON'T USE CORRECT SPELLING or GRAMMAR (OR PARAGRAPHS), YOURSELF.
And, you had the nerve to say THIS?
"Again, all your bullshit applies moreso to yourself than me" - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @05:51AM (#30113616) Homepage
Give up already troll: You're "too, Too, TOO EASY" to catch in your own b.s., everytime...
APK
P.S.=> More typical "trollery" & b.s. on the part of 'somersault' the troll, caught red handed in the act himself (& what he bitched @ others about here in this exchange on, no less)... unbelievable! This guy is so unintelligent, he is unbelievably TOO EASY to get the better of, and with his own words & contradictions... apk
"No, I said I found his style annoying, and I COULD NOT BE BOTHERED reading them, there is a big difference between "cannot", and "do not want to"." - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @10:28AM (#30115784) Homepage
The rest of US find your trolling loaded with contradictions, b.s. lies and excuses (and your admission of "taking pills to cope", bwahaha, weakling) trolling style VERY annoying (per the person you are replying to now no less), and this also:
Ever heard of paragraphs somersault???
"PS - ever heard of 'paragraphs'? You practice the non-existend brand of them badly. Do you enjoy repeating everything people say? I never did understand how people find trolling so amusing.." - by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:44AM (#30104418) Homepage Journal
Sure you have, you busted on others' replies here and yet? YOU DON'T USE CORRECT SPELLING or GRAMMAR, YOURSELF.
And, you had the nerve to say THIS?
"Again, all your bullshit applies moreso to yourself than me" - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @05:51AM (#30113616) Homepage
Give up already troll: You're "too, Too, TOO EASY" to catch in your own b.s., everytime...
APK
P.S.=> More typical "trollery" & b.s. on the part of 'somersault' the troll, caught red handed in the act himself (& what he bitched @ others about here in this exchange on, no less)... unbelievable! This guy is so unintelligent, he is unbelievably TOO EASY to get the better of, and with his own words & contradictions... apk
"I am not the one tripping over and contradicting myself." - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @10:26AM (#30115748) Homepage
Oh, really? How many times have you told people to use paragraphs here and you don't use them yourself, per this example others have pointed out along with myself:
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1438984&cid=30113600
You don't seem to be using paragraphs there somersault... & yet, you said others should here:
Ever heard of paragraphs somersault???
"PS - ever heard of 'paragraphs'? You practice the non-existend brand of them badly. Do you enjoy repeating everything people say? I never did understand how people find trolling so amusing.." - by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:44AM (#30104418) Homepage Journal
Give us a break.
"No, I said I found his style annoying, and I COULD NOT BE BOTHERED reading them, there is a big difference between "cannot", and "do not want to"." - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @10:28AM (#30115784) Homepage
?
Is that comment on topic, somersault?? IS ANYTHING YOU'VE SAID HERE BEEN ON TOPIC??? NOT THAT I CAN SEE, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU TROLLED ME ON "WRITING STYLE" MINUS A PHD YOURSELF and YOU ALSO BEING COUPLED WITH A MENTAL CONDITION ON YOUR PART, ADMITTEDLY no less!
ANSWER = NO, you troll - you are off topic, period... lol!
The rest of US find your trolling loaded with contradictions, b.s. lies and excuses (and your admission of "taking pills to cope", bwahaha, weakling) trolling style VERY annoying (per the person you are replying to now no less), and this also:
Sure you have, you busted on others' replies here and yet? YOU DON'T USE CORRECT SPELLING or GRAMMAR, YOURSELF.
And, you had the nerve to say THIS?
"Again, all your bullshit applies moreso to yourself than me" - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @05:51AM (#30113616) Homepage
Give up already troll: You're "too, Too, TOO EASY" to catch in your own b.s., everytime...
"Dude, stop pretending to be other people, it's sad." - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @10:26AM (#30115748) Homepage
Funny, didn't you note you saw me posting all over the wire as "APK" & signing my posts as such? Where you, on the other hand, admitted to using multiple nicks online... & who pretends to be others? Not I.
"You claimed before that it was other people that were posting, however in both of those posts you mentioned "not having PHDs in english or psychiatry", which is something you do all the time as APK"" - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @10:26AM (#30115748) Homepage
How do you know what I do, if you don't "stalk me" (sounds like it to me, ontop of the fact you have had, admittedly on YOUR part from your own mouth below, "mental issues")?
"I myself needed to go on pills a few years ago for depression, and I had an episode of OCD, I know it's not pleasant to have mental issues." by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:33PM (#30107250) Homepage Journal
ALSO - How would you know that others may have agreed with my points and used them against you as well??
Give up troll. You're caught in your contradictions, bigtime. You're the one who also admits to using MULTIPLE NICKS/HANDLES online in forums... I always sign off as "APK" however, always.
APK
P.S.=> More typical "trollery" & b.s. on the part of 'somersault' the troll, caught red handed in the act himself (& what he bitched @ others about here in this exchange on, no less)... unbelievable! This guy is so unintelligent, he is unbelievably TOO EASY to get the better of, and with his own words & contradictions... apk
What spam is that? I posted information in my first post in this exchange about ROOTKIT.COM finding the new NDIS6 based firewall(s) in Windows being VERY EASY TO UNHOOK... see here:
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1438984&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=30078554
That amterial from myself? THAT is on topic, unlike yourself posting your wise ass & unqualified remark (after all, you don't show us a PHD in English to your name, thus, you're NO AUTHORITY on the subject (and this is only a forums, get over it. It's not a grade for English class, nor is this a forums on English grammer or writing style, period... you are off topic, per the evidence of your first post to me next below).
Your first reply to myself:
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1438984&cid=30084762
E.G.-> What was the first thing you posted my way? An "english critique" of my writing style... is THAT "on topic" (Answer = NO).
Give up somersault: You were NEVER intelligent enough to even begin to try to "take me on", period.
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OH, I'd also like to you to show me where you saw ME posting "offensive photos of myself" - going to avoid that question of mine again (though you accuse ME of that, I have caught you doing that rampantly, including your telling others to use paragraphs and you didn't many times yourself (are you also schizoid/multiple personality disorder too? Seems it, what with the different writing styles you use, whilst posting as somersault no less here).
APK
P.S.=> Then again, also? We KNOW you have "mental issues", per your own words here quoted again, no less:
"I myself needed to go on pills a few years ago for depression, and I had an episode of OCD, I know it's not pleasant to have mental issues." - by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:33PM (#30107250) Homepage Journal
Whew, nuff said on that much: By the by, you aren't the first "idle hands are the devil's workshop" out of work or school lazy slacker troll I've had to deal with. In fact, you don't even RATE on the scale compared to the ones I've dealt with (and ended up burning, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER) before... so, quit already. You're not good @ it & as Abe Lincoln said "IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, BE GOOD AT IT", and you clearly are not... period... apk
Do you even know what a paragraph is? I had 3 of them.
Anyway, since you started pretending to be other people I've lost all respect for you and am not going to bother trying to help you any more. Goodbye, you utter waste of skin..
which is totally what she said
"Do you even know what a paragraph is? I had 3 of them." - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @06:48PM (#30123810) Homepage
Oh, really?
I don't see 3 paragraphs here, where you said this from this URL (a quote of your own words, minus paragraphs, is next):
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1438984&cid=30113600
PERTINENT EXAMPLE/QUOTE:
"I did not give you guff, you copy and pasted a massive essay to a joke I made. The massive sprawling style is similar to all those weird GNAA posts etc, so I at first assumed it was just a troll (and I still think it qualifies as at least flamebait, even if you did not intend it as trolling), then after I realised it wasn't I just pointed out to you that you need to write in a more reasonable manner if you want people to *read* wha you write? Isn't that your intention? I don't need a degree in English or Psychiatry to tell you that your massive rants are awkward to read. Cue you insulting my reading skills again instead of actually trying to better yourself - you always seem to just want to attack rather than listen to anyone else's opinon." - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @05:48AM (#30113600) Homepage Journal
That look like PROPER PARAGRAPH USAGE TO YOU? I found your post, unreadable somersault...
Ever heard of paragraphs somersault??? SURE YOU HAVE:
"PS - ever heard of 'paragraphs'? You practice the non-existend brand of them badly. Do you enjoy repeating everything people say? I never did understand how people find trolling so amusing.." - by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:44AM (#30104418) Homepage Journal
Please, give us a break (you utter hypocrite!)
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"Anyway, since you started pretending to be other people I've lost all respect for you and am not going to bother trying to help you any more." - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @06:48PM (#30123810) Homepage
Funny - I said YOU were the one doing that here first, and now, you are trying to say that to me? Give us a break: I am onto your little "scam", mental boy you pitiful troller (Everyone here reading is, or soon will be (keep this in mind, you are going to regret opening your mouth here my way, & because of your own libel directed MY way)).
Funny also, the way "you" change posting styles (from using paragraphs to not using them, oddly, and lol, you yelling @ others to do so, no less) almost seems like you not only have OCD (for which you took your "mental pills" for admittedly & were under psychiatric care + you admitted you have "mental issues"), but also multiple personality disorder (but then, I don't claim to be a psychiatrist either, as you often have delusions of grandeur about).
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"Goodbye, you utter waste of skin.." - by somersault (912633) on Monday November 16, @06:48PM (#30123810) Homepage
Good, & THANK GOD... but, trust me: It won't be the last of me you'll see after this little "trolling" you've attempted on me... far from it.
(Oh, & where are these allegedly "offensive photos of myself" that you claim I have posted? Hmmmm?? Where are they??? OR, is that just another b.s. lie you've told once again, you libellous little WORM????)
APK
P.S.=> I'd LOVE to see a little "not man" like you, though, say what you just did, right in front of me to my face though... that'd be something/a REAL TREAT! apk
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1438984&cid=30107250
THE ADVENTURES OF "MENTAL BOY":
"I myself needed to go on pills a few years ago for depression, and I had an episode of OCD, I know it's not pleasant to have mental issues." - by somersault (912633) on Sunday November 15, @01:33PM (#30107250) Homepage Journal
Evidence is above (somersault alias "mental boy")
By the by: I don't interpret your puny trolling of myself as a joke. Get that thru your head. Thanks.)
That's a shame, because I've decided if you keep spamming my slashdot posts, I'm going to have fun fucking with your burnt out, drug addled, girlfriend beating, piece of shit head.
I wasn't trying to troll you before, I was actually trying to be kind. But if you want trolling and spam, I'm sure I sort out a little trolling and spam in return. It's sad that you have been posting on one of Jeremy Reimer's threads for FOUR YEARS, pretending to be yourself and other people. I don't know if I have the patience for four years of dealing with you, but we'll see. The only reason you pretend to be other people is because nobody else agrees with your version of reality, so you have to pretend to be other people just to have anyone who agrees with you. That must mean you're quite aware that what you write is a load of bullshit, but yet somehow you still keep on going, making yourself seem more and more of a fool. It's part of your personality disorder.
Anyone with two brain cells can tell that all of those posts of people who agree with you are written by you. Except instead of having millions of stupid one sentence paragraphs like you do in your "APK => PS" posts, you switch to having no paragraphs at all. Both of those are crappy uses of paragraphs, hence why I said that you cannot use paragraphs.
By the way, the "mental boy" (cool name btw, thanks, I might use it in future :D ) post that you keep linking to - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1438984&cid=30107250 - the one that calls you a troll with mental issues? Someone moderated it "insightful". LOL.
which is totally what she said
No, we are "OK" now, per this exchange we had elsewhere here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1447322&cid=30147204 & I am glad, +, hope you are too, this is all "straightened out now"... because, I can't speak for you, but honestly? The exchanges we had today?? Did me a world of good... the problem's "written english" imo, vs. spoken english & BOTH of us 'slipped up some' (quite a lot in fact) I feel, & that's ok too (we all do that, now & then). We're also TOO alike I feel, in a few ways (which I agreed upon as did you there earlier in said exchange) so... I think we're ok now!
In a "StRaNgE" way? I have to say this to you:
"Thanks!"
APK
P.S.=> The strangest things, happen @ the STRANGEST times, & today + yesterday were, "one for the books" for me... good days overall in other words, & a lot of wild stuff is going ok for me, when I thought it was going to screwup (so, my mood may have "learned towards the 'dark side', yesterday, because of some things, so I have concede that much & I NEVER really ever do that, but there IS a first time, for everything... lol!)...
So, because of my "epiphany" I had today during our other exchanges when I went looking for you? Well... you'll read them there!
(Read in the URL above, maybe especially the "P.S." only + my replies to pffwwwt (whatever his nick is, he is trying to get you & I to "go @ it" again, lol, unbelievable)...
Read there, & I am sure, you'll 'catch my drift' (I think)!
Everything ELSE today in my life (some very important stuff too, way moreso than academia in fact (which has been "the center of my world" lately, as I have returned to it after nearly a 17 yr. or so absence due to working, "downsized" so, I decided to NOT waste time & build myself up more + learn new stuff (JAVA, & more on OOP than I knew before & it's been great, pulling "A's" (mostly, lol) on a full schedule too)... & because of what happened betwixt yourself & I this a.m. (well, it was 4 a.m. for me or so, because I woke early as you know, to finish off a programming project in JAVA + Advanced DataStructures)? The rest of my day went great too...
Now this may seem strange but... well, I can't help but think a good change occurred today for me!
(I.E.-> That sometimes, swallowing pride & NOT fighting back, when things go way outta hand, & they did here? IS the thing to do, & attempt compromise & peace rather than a stupid destructive conflict).
Yes, & I did "extend the olive branch" first there, & for me, surprisingly? Well - unlike trolls I have run into (many, many forums & many times since 1994 online on the public net for "regular folks" here)?
You accepted!
Sure, both of us compromised (& this is all done as far as I am concerned)...
Also, you surprised me too, you're a "FIRST" in a couple ways + I note them there...
(AND, I respect you for it, and the fact you DO NOT BACK DOWN (I was wrong thinking you were just being another "grammar & spelling nazi", but you were just kidding around... AND, you thought I was "offtopic" & by now I *THINK* you know my first post was not (& we both ended up foolishly off topic & looking dumb in the end I felt... it was time to STOP it, & I am glad you did & me too (we're both better people for it imo))...
Anyhow... nice meeting you, & it was good, for once, to "set things right" rather than "fight to the death" etc. et al...apk